Hearthpwn

In EU Region, 4 days in a row, in 3 different accounts; only 40 gold quests with reroll. I don't think this has been fixed.

and all the 80g quests blow and became in too much 40g quests xD WELL PLAYED BLIZZARD WELL PLAYED...Here smells like  ''pay the  adventure with your credit card''

U got no friends?... sorry about that

I got a 40 gold quest and rerolled into another 40 again, even after the hotfix. Let's see what's gonna happen tomorrow.

Day 2: still 40 gold quests.

Day 3: nothing has changed. I would say the first 2 days are just bad luck but 3 days in a row is too much.

So I have a question??  If the quest are 'randomly generated'....why was there a problem to be fixed with the 'higher gold pay out' quest????   Maybe they are not as "random" as they lead us to believe..........................

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So I have a question??  If the quest are 'randomly generated'....why was there a problem to be fixed with the 'higher gold pay out' quest????   Maybe they are not as "random" as they lead us to believe..........................

Last year I recorded a sample of 300 quests (first received and rerolls) across 2+ months and 2 accounts. I ended up getting a 40g quest 66% of the time. This was after the 50g quests were implemented (but before the "play a friend" quest of course) - so in sheer numbers there were fewer 40g quests than the other values combined. This indicates that 40g quests have always had an inflated roll chance vs the other values. Whether that inflation has increased? I don't know. I probably won't record another sample, but you're welcome to use my results as a baseline if you want to.

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Last year I recorded a sample of 300 quests (first received and rerolls) across 2+ months and 2 accounts. I ended up getting a 40g quest 66% of the time. This was after the 50g quests were implemented (but before the "play a friend" quest of course) - so in sheer numbers there were fewer 40g quests than the other values combined. This indicates that 40g quests have always had an inflated roll chance vs the other values. Whether that inflation has increased? I don't know. I probably won't record another sample, but you're welcome to use my results as a baseline if you want to.

Wow thanks. Ok this sounds good. I think 300 is a big enough number to sratch RNG or Luck (middle gound). Im suprised that its 66%, because im sure i usually end up with something better than 40 after the reroll. Anyway i gladly would like to use those reults of yours.

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So I have a question??  If the quest are 'randomly generated'....why was there a problem to be fixed with the 'higher gold pay out' quest????   Maybe they are not as "random" as they lead us to believe..........................

 Its because Quests are seperated in two Tiers. Tier 1 and Tier 2.

Tier 1 Quest are all 40 Gold Quests with the exception of Tavern Brawl, which gives you 60 Gold. Those Quests are accesable right from the start on a new account after you finished the 2 forced Quests that come with it.

Tier 2 Quests are seperated. They become available ater you have finished 10 Tier 1 Quests. Tier 2 Quests btw are all Quests that exist in the game. You still can get those 40 Gold Quests trough them. You just unlocked the possibility of higher rewards such as 60/80 and 100 Gold Quests.

So why does this matter? Well, there can be 1001 possibilties to cause troubles for this system if something goes wrong within the code. Since Tier 2 Quests have some sort of rule or restriction, it absolutly can be that this "Bug" caused a reset on your account, made it believe you are once again a new account, which only can offer Tier 1 Quests.

That aside, its now to discover if something has been changed to the overall Quest Drop Chances, because right now it feels it got lowered. 40 Quests seem to pop up more often than before, but its still too earlie to identify. We need more days to discover if something has been done to it.

it's not that you have a higher chance to get a better reward(technically you do cause if you reroll a 40g quest you cant get the same quest again, but that is pretty small difference). I'll use dice as an example: Heres the game you roll a dice and try to get a 6 (so 1 out of 6) if it fails you can roll again (another 1 out of 6). your chance of getting a 6 on the first dice is about 17%, but if you fail you get to try again. So 83% of the time after the first dice you roll, you have to roll again having another 17% chance to get a 6. This comes out to about 31% (just trust me on that its hard to explain) of the time you will get a 6 from at least one dice. The chance isn't really better, but your given another try which increases your chance to end with a better then 40G quest

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 The reason you feel like you get better then 40g is cause you probably are only rerolling the 40g ones, so by chance, if you always reroll 40g ones once(it gets complicated if you reroll them more than once) it comes out to about 50% of the time your have more than 40g.

Just did a little math and if 66% for 40g is accurate then the probably IF you reroll 40g quest, and keep non 40g quest you will have about a 55% of ending with non 40g quests. (only if you reroll a max of once)

 Ok thats complete new information for me.

Can you go more into details? So you are saying the Chance to get something better if you reroll a 40 Gold Quest is higher than if i would reroll for example a 60 Gold Quest. Yes matehmatically it makes sense. 40 Gold is the lowest amount you can get out of a Quest, so chance to roll something better is higher.

But i didnt get the reroll once reference. Why does this matter? So lets say i have a 40 Gold Quest and i reroll it into yet another 40 Gold Quest and wait a day and reroll that exactly Quest again (did it more than once now), how does this change the Probability? Isnt it the same as before? Or is the math changed? Is the system counting and cant give you a specific Quest in a certain period of time? Does reroll count as done, or simply as pushed away (it may come back pretty soon) ?

 

EU region.

August,17

Just switched from one 40-gold quest to another.

Still got 40 gold quest lol 

indeed

Ugly practice, Blizzard.

It should also be noted that Blizzard has added more profitable quests over time - the 60 tavern brawl, the 50 for single classes, and the 80 friend quest.   The gold landscape looks far better than it did at launch.

I dont know the exact number, but the avg gold per quest was more than 50 back when they added the 50g quests, i think avg was 52-53 before they added those. So they were actually bad for the players.

But you are right with the tavern brawl and friend quest ;)

ya and it depends on how much you value the 80 gold quest, cause technically it gives 160 gold in total, even though it's not all for you.

When you grow up you'll realize that people work in order to get money. Until then keep complaining about a free to play game kid.