Ben Brode Discusses the Warsong Commander Nerf
A new Designer Insights vlog from Ben Brode discussing Warsong Commander has made it to PlayHearthstone's YouTube channel. We've recapped and embedded the video below.
Warsong Commander now reads (in the next patch): Your Charge minions have +1 Attack.
Quote from Ben Brode
- Warriors are already pretty low on the Arena tier list, and this change does take them down further. This will have to be addressed in future sets.
- Charge and Direct Damage are two of the least fun things in Hearthstone. You can't react to them, you must be proactive.
- They wanted to make the card less complicated because it is in the basic set.
- Warsong Commander was nerfed instead of Grim Patron or Frothing Berserker because the biggest issue now, and going forward, was Warsong.
- It was important to keep the identity of the card intact as much as possible.
- They tried 30 or 40 different designs to see which ones felt the best for the card.
- Dreadsteed was originally going to be released in Naxxramas as a Neutral Minion. Warsong Commander prevented that due to their interaction.
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A quote from Ben Brode himself:
"This particular design, your charge minions have +1 attack, is something that... you know.. New player just don't know how good that is. They don't realize, they think Venture Co Mercenary is really bad...."
Venture Co is a good minion to provide an early boost to the board and prevent your opponent to drop they big drop. Our new warsong commander on the other hand, is a super situational card that only synergize with charge minions while we have cards like the dire wolf or even the raid leader that can synergize with the rest of the minion.
WHY NOT HAVE CARDS THAT SAY
"CANNOT CHARGE"
This is poor planning from paystone. All Dreadsteed had to say was "cannot charge or cannot receive charge". Any minion in the future just has to say that as well.
Now what we have is a multi month lull in where Warrior is irrelevant in constructed and one step back in arena.
Well, new adventure's being released, so I HOPE something like WC will come back as a Warrior Card (hopefully >3 atk minions will lose charge)
But please buff this card.
Considering the cry, you see how much cancer this deck is. Puck Fatron Warrior!
A secret paladin skilled player for sure.
This kind of dudes don't know what they are talking about, or even what is cancer.
The big difference is: Patron, broken or not, requires some thinking, ... while other decks (your secretadin), you can tell a monk to keep coin and play MC on turn 5 ROFL.
Oh sure, since nerf Warsong = only Patron dead and the other warrior decks is absolutely fine.
Wondering what deck are you playing? Must be a deck that can be countered by PW.
CW is my main, and no i don't play Patron, but i know it requires some skill.
Don't be mad with me ... it's not your fault to play secretadin, it's blizzard giving you the chance to be legend.
;)
Oh how skilled I am, wait until turn 8 and 40 dmg OTK. Really, I guess only PW players think they need skill to play this deck. LoL
You only lose with this deck if you have a very bad starting hand, and sometimes even so, with a massive card draw might help you and turn around the game.
Yeah, very skilled to know how to draw cards, alright.
The cry's not because Patron is now dead, it's on the fking Warsong Commander. You think that WC is nerfed and every other non-Patron Warrior is still all fine, happy sunshine and rainbows?
The problem is the OTK like you said, so tons of people here were crying to make WC give charge to only minions with 3atk or less, and when they get more than 3 they lose charge. But instead of nerfing, they just killed the card.
A few months later, Warrior is still at the top of the meta, just not as cancerous.
You lost a completely overpowered card, plain and simple.
Maybe these deck can be a way to avoid the Warsong Nerf, http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/348149-pyro-berserker-combo comment plz.
I'm not a warrior fan, but imo they could have just made the minion lose it's 'charge' if it went above 3 attack like how Southsea Deckhand loses charge if you lose your weapon before attacking with him even if he was summoned while you had a weapon.
Well no fucking shit, it's almost as if 10,000 players didn't already tell Blizzard that exact same thing!
Blizzard presumably have reasons for not wanting to do that. I don't know what those reasons are. But whatever they are, I'm quite certain they're STUPID reasons.
"It was important to keep the identity of the card intact as much as possible."
Apparently not considering they completely changed the entire mechanic.
RIP Warsong Commander and arena warriors
So I am still lost...they do not like OTK or combos you basically cannot prevent...So then why since beta has the Druid OTK been in the game? Luckily I play warrior only so I can armor up enough to stop it but any other class cannot allow for 1 minion to be on board by turn 10 because of the 22 damage without having a minion...so add a basic 2 drop minion and u have 28 damage...So please someone explain to me how they want to remove OTK but that deck has been around since the beginning.
that is the 2 card combo...but I was speaking about the 4 card combo with double savage roar...It happens all of the time.
4 card combo is 18 mana. That means at least 2 ticks of Emperor Thaurissan with all 4 combo cards in hand. That is extremely unlikely. If druids can do this against you "all the time" I have to wonder what you are doing the whole game.
sorry did not mean to confuse u and teach u about HS...innervate was 4th card lol so idk where u get 18 mana. Trees, savage roar, innervate, savage road..ta da....or with emperor just use all three for 9 mana.
I'm losing faith on this game. I hope all this mess, doesn't have to do directly with Activision part of Blizzard. They are well known for killing his own products.
I won't spend a single dollar in this game anymore, until it looks healthy. Might never happen...