The 100 dust pirates are here to snipe ennemy weapons so it's worth crafting them, but the 1600 dust 1/1, I get it can be an advantage in some situations, but I don't think it's more than 1% winrate advantage, is it ?
I have tried it, I went straight from rank 4 to rank 2 with almost only victories, and then next hour straight from rank 2 to rank 4, so maybe there are some very specific hours to play this game :)
Hi, I'd love to play your deck, but I'm missing Shadowreaper Anduin is it as essential as in Razakus priest ? or could a Free From Amber do the trick ?
EDIT : Also is Potion of Madness still recommended when it can add a really small minion to the pool of revivable minions ?
EDIT 2 : Btw, which rank did u get with the deck ? Some "big priest" decks achieved legend this season, is it one of these ?
I'd say late DK (well no DK at all in facts), because u had it on T4 and you could have played it on T10 (well maybe more T11). Or maybe just the fact he had a good jade ramp up and played Medivh before you could.
Would you share some wins vs Razakus priests, I'd be really interested in these ?
Ok, so you are using hearthstone deck tracker, so you have a few "vs Razakus priest" replays, right ? Can you just show 2-3 of them so we can understand what all this theorycrafting leads to ?
BTW, I think the paternity of the deck structures goes to Savjz, playing Twisting nether and Mediv on this Video one month ago : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/168741504
So what you would own is the PLAYs, but I don't know why you don't want to show them. Savjz himself was struggling to ladder up consistently, so the replays would be really valuable (and the deck, really not so much).
Could someone successful vs Razakus priest (rank 5 to legend) post a few replays please (https://hsreplay.net/games/mine/)? Because I'd love to become good too :)
In my experience, Twilight Drake can be silenced (and is silenced), and it makes no difference if I am 20 HP or 30 HP + 5 armor once he has his DK. In rare cases, he has made too many replacements compared to the winning Razakus decks, or his DK is stuck at the bottom of his deck and he loses.
Moreover, the advice vs priest is "Make them play cards to survive", but if this was really possible, it would be possible as well vs Exodia mage, to force them to use their nova, ice block, blizzard instead of their new drawn spells, but it's not possible with a control deck.
So, if you win regularly vs priest, there is something subtle you do and you don't say, imo. For the records, winrate of the real Razakus deck vs warlock is over 66% : https://hsreplay.net/decks/rkJUi5dg1oDOQznBWUrOD (rank 5 to legend) so really, if someone can prove me wrong with a few replays, I'd be happy :)
Hi, I've crafted Drakkari Enchanter early in the season, and I was looking for decent deck to play it from then.
This one is pretty good, I've replaced Ysera by Alexstrasza (mostly to regain life and have a big dragon to trigger other cards), and second Dragonfire Potion by a Bone Drake, and it totally works rank 5 (almost 4).
It looks good vs shaman (3 wins out of 4 games) and vs hunter (1 game 1 win) which are common around here.
It can't beat the new Keleseth Rogue though, and maybe not the nerfed druid (only 1 game so far).
It can't beat pirate warrior as well, and there are still some.
Hi, I'm the one you are quoting. People saying that aggro decks counter priest are just probably playing under rank 10 vs incomplete priest doing big mistakes.
Priest is the new druid, only Tempo mage can do something (thx to 4 to 6 secrets, a few 4 attack cards like Kirin tor and Burgly bully, and direct finish damage not needing minions), but not much.
One other thing which counter priest is the expansiveness of the good priest decks (from 12000 to 14000 dust), and their late dominance in this extension, which mean people may have already spent their dust on druid/paladin decks, so there may not been as many priests as they were druids.
Here are the stats of the Razakus deck with Velen above rank 10 (note that these stats are over last 3 days, so there is 1 day pre-patch druid included) :
I was wondering how many packs pro players were buying for each extension to get all legendaries like they do ?
I know :
you get 1 legendary every (max) 40 pack
there are 23 legendaries per extension
without using amazon coins, the cheapest packs are 60 packs for 70 €
so this would mean around ((40 * 23) / 60) * 70 = 1073 €. Let's say from time to time they don't have to wait for 40 packs, because it's a max, not a mean, they still have to spend between 500 € and 1000 € per extension to get all cards.
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The 100 dust pirates are here to snipe ennemy weapons so it's worth crafting them, but the 1600 dust 1/1, I get it can be an advantage in some situations, but I don't think it's more than 1% winrate advantage, is it ?
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What would be the strategy to be faster than hunter with this deck ? Is Patches the Pirate necessary, because I don't have it...
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I have tried it, I went straight from rank 4 to rank 2 with almost only victories, and then next hour straight from rank 2 to rank 4, so maybe there are some very specific hours to play this game :)
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Hi, I'd love to play your deck, but I'm missing Shadowreaper Anduin is it as essential as in Razakus priest ? or could a Free From Amber do the trick ?
EDIT : Also is Potion of Madness still recommended when it can add a really small minion to the pool of revivable minions ?
EDIT 2 : Btw, which rank did u get with the deck ? Some "big priest" decks achieved legend this season, is it one of these ?
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Nice, thanks !
First one was not Razakus though.
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I'd say late DK (well no DK at all in facts), because u had it on T4 and you could have played it on T10 (well maybe more T11). Or maybe just the fact he had a good jade ramp up and played Medivh before you could.
Would you share some wins vs Razakus priests, I'd be really interested in these ?
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Nice, which rank reached ? Show us some "vs Kazakus priest" replays :)
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Ok, so you are using hearthstone deck tracker, so you have a few "vs Razakus priest" replays, right ? Can you just show 2-3 of them so we can understand what all this theorycrafting leads to ?
BTW, I think the paternity of the deck structures goes to Savjz, playing Twisting nether and Mediv on this Video one month ago : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/168741504
So what you would own is the PLAYs, but I don't know why you don't want to show them. Savjz himself was struggling to ladder up consistently, so the replays would be really valuable (and the deck, really not so much).
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Could someone successful vs Razakus priest (rank 5 to legend) post a few replays please (https://hsreplay.net/games/mine/)? Because I'd love to become good too :)
In my experience, Twilight Drake can be silenced (and is silenced), and it makes no difference if I am 20 HP or 30 HP + 5 armor once he has his DK. In rare cases, he has made too many replacements compared to the winning Razakus decks, or his DK is stuck at the bottom of his deck and he loses.
Moreover, the advice vs priest is "Make them play cards to survive", but if this was really possible, it would be possible as well vs Exodia mage, to force them to use their nova, ice block, blizzard instead of their new drawn spells, but it's not possible with a control deck.
So, if you win regularly vs priest, there is something subtle you do and you don't say, imo. For the records, winrate of the real Razakus deck vs warlock is over 66% : https://hsreplay.net/decks/rkJUi5dg1oDOQznBWUrOD (rank 5 to legend) so really, if someone can prove me wrong with a few replays, I'd be happy :)
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Hi, I've crafted Drakkari Enchanter early in the season, and I was looking for decent deck to play it from then.
This one is pretty good, I've replaced Ysera by Alexstrasza (mostly to regain life and have a big dragon to trigger other cards), and second Dragonfire Potion by a Bone Drake, and it totally works rank 5 (almost 4).
It looks good vs shaman (3 wins out of 4 games) and vs hunter (1 game 1 win) which are common around here.
It can't beat the new Keleseth Rogue though, and maybe not the nerfed druid (only 1 game so far).
It can't beat pirate warrior as well, and there are still some.
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Hi, I'm the one you are quoting. People saying that aggro decks counter priest are just probably playing under rank 10 vs incomplete priest doing big mistakes.
Priest is the new druid, only Tempo mage can do something (thx to 4 to 6 secrets, a few 4 attack cards like Kirin tor and Burgly bully, and direct finish damage not needing minions), but not much.
One other thing which counter priest is the expansiveness of the good priest decks (from 12000 to 14000 dust), and their late dominance in this extension, which mean people may have already spent their dust on druid/paladin decks, so there may not been as many priests as they were druids.
Here are the stats of the Razakus deck with Velen above rank 10 (note that these stats are over last 3 days, so there is 1 day pre-patch druid included) :
source : https://hsreplay.net/decks/rkJUi5dg1oDOQznBWUrOD/#rankRange=LEGEND_THROUGH_TEN&tab=overview
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Except when they draw :
* Doomsayer
or
* Shadow Word: Pain
or
* Shadow Visions
or
* Kazakus
or
* Holy Nova
or
* Dragonfire Potion
or
*Shadow Word: Horror (eventually combined with Pint-Size Potion)
or
* Potion of Madness
or
* Spirit Lash
So, do they really lose to aggro ? At least, I don't think they lose to aggro druid.
Sorry, just a few loses vs priest today, I needed to write this :)
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Hi,
I was wondering how many packs pro players were buying for each extension to get all legendaries like they do ?
I know :
so this would mean around ((40 * 23) / 60) * 70 = 1073 €. Let's say from time to time they don't have to wait for 40 packs, because it's a max, not a mean, they still have to spend between 500 € and 1000 € per extension to get all cards.
Do you agree with this calculus ?
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Here are some replacement suggestions from Kyo to deal with aggro, and to have a more reliable late game.
You can watch him beat a non nerfed pirate warrior and a non nerfed aggro druid with it (~rank 9 early season) :
- Shadow Strike
- Mind Control Tech
(because people don't need 4 minions on their side to be a big threat, and if they have, it may be tokens).
- Bloodmage Thalnos
+ Glacial Shard (x2)
+ Alexstrasza
He replaces Backstab (x2) with Fan of Knives (x2) which I still have to try
He also replaces Youthful Brewmaster (x2) with Shadowcaster (x2) but I couldn't try this since I don't have them
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Hi, this is a nice deck for "<1000 dust challenge", I'll try it.
Don't say "This deck is my attempt to create a deck that can hold up against most ranked decks" tough, it's probably < 10% winrate vs any ranked deck.