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Well I've played about 15-20 arena games so far since thursday and ive seen 10 priest, 3 rogues and 2 or 3 mages, and nothing else.

I think Rogue is still tier 1, followed by priest and then mage because priest demolishes mage.

Can we get rid of liberals while we're at it too? OP AF

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So you don't play this unless the deck is rigged for it. Assume when you use this it will get you Lich King, Ysera, Deathwing 2.0, Nozdormu for lulz, Y'Shaarj is probably the nuts, Yip works if you have armor. 

8 mana get a 9 or 10 mana guy 3 times seems pretty good, plus the weapon stats to hit with. I'd say this is better than Scourgelord Garrosh in a traditional control wallet warrior. Could be pretty good if the deck is good.

 While that may sound nice and all, pretty much anything you try to do with this will just be a worse version of Big Priest.

So you don't play this unless the deck is rigged for it. Assume when you use this it will get you Lich King, Ysera, Deathwing 2.0, Nozdormu for lulz, Y'Shaarj is probably the nuts, Yip works if you have armor. 

8 mana get a 9 or 10 mana guy 3 times seems pretty good, plus the weapon stats to hit with. I'd say this is better than Scourgelord Garrosh in a traditional control wallet warrior. Could be pretty good if the deck is good.

Man I actually forgot about dungeon runs because I've so wrapped up in the Hunter memes. 

I'm excited to build some new decks mostly. 

I'm the first person to say hunter is mistreated and it sucks to not get cards that just WORK for the class and watch every other class get stronger while we stay in the trenches. I want Glaivezooka reprinted. I want SMOrc to come back so I don't have to think when I ladder because ladder is a stupid way to rate people in a card game. I agree with you the devs don't do us justice.

What you're definitely wrong about is this: they did test To My Side!. Probably a lot. This card is built from a preexisting card Animal Companion which is possibly the strongest single card in the class for years. Huffer is STILL too good at 3 mana today. So they took this card and wanted to double it and make it even potentially more powerful by giving you a possibility of 2 Huffers which equals 8 damage for 6 mana in hunter. That's very very strong possibly too strong. So to correct for that they came up with what they thought would be a sever enough restriction that only a committed builder would want to play this potentially busted card.

Was the restriction too severe? Maybe. Depends on how many people end up designing around it and running it. Hunter is a class without it's own abilities. It just gets the leftover keywords and half-way trash the other classes don't get. This is the first time we've gotten a card that makes us go "oh huh, how the hell am I supposed to make that work?" This should be your reaction. Not, "terrible, unplayable forget it, forget everything hunter rip again LOL BYE". I mean you might be right. I would say the majority of hunter players feel this way and you all might be right. At least try it out though. Wait until a few weeks have gone by and you get 60-200 ranked games with this new deck before you grab the pitchfork.

Look I think it's obvious that Team 5 is terrified of hunter being tier 1 again. This class was the boogeyman for the first 2 years of the game if not longer. The fun killing class. That isn't something you put on a resume and expect to get more work. We're the bad guys here as far as the rest of the community is concerned. So don't expect to be a hunter player and be on top. Enjoy being the jerk who still plays hunter in 2018.

Weapon Warrior was a homebrew I made during LOE meta. It was just weapons and spells, no minions. It was a burst damage control deck. It was terrible some games but really did beat people up. I loved and still love the idea of making all your opponent's removal completely worthless. It's a difficult strategy to make work because you take so much damage to face but then you can make that an advantage with warrior. 

My money is on  Thori'dal, the Stars Fury, because it goes with that old set of legends from back in the day.  It could be Titanstrike. That'd make sense with summoning Hati as a minion and minionless hunter being a new thing. 

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This is a really bad card, this is the very definition of Dust It!

Like others are saying, why can't it just summon 2 Animal Companion? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Why are you giving Hunter such mediocre epics? Crushing Walls vs Psychic Scream

And a Hunter deck with no minions! I get it, you want players to use Deathstalker Rexxar, the secrets and summon spells, with other control cards. Is such a deck even viable? I'm not a Hunter main. We have to wait and see, perhaps after the next rotation.

And yes, the wording really should have been "Summon 2 Animal Companions, or 3 if your deck has no minions."

 I've tinkered with secret hunter because I got professor putricide in one of my early packs.  If you're lucky the secrets, release the hounds, kill command, and deadly shot will keep you alive long enough to draw DK Rexxar and outvalue your opponent with custom-made zombeasts. I've not even considered it with zero minions, hurt it's an interesting thought experiment 

 

I don't really think that casting "animal companion" twice in turn 6 is enough.

 

What's more interesting is that this is another deck-construction restraint. I think we've seen the last of Highlander, so "no minions" can join "no x cost cards" in new deck limits. 

I hope you're right and that meta lasts for a long time. We say the "agro is dead" meme every set and every set it ends up devolving into face vs face meta no matter what. Slow decks just aren't optimal in a ladder system. Tournament style yes absolutely play control and combo if thats what works best. "Big" decks don't perform well over a long period because people burn out quickly with them. 

If you spend 20 minutes playing 1 game and lose you feel worse than if you spend 2 minutes playing 1 game and lose it's just more optimal to play aggro even if it isn't tier 1. That's why I'm bashing Walls I don't see the big deck meta existing for a long time. 

I do hope you're right though that would make the game much more enjoyable.

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To my side Spell Hunter Secrets Hunter Deck by GentilleMouche - Dec 2, 2017 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (3) 1x Barnes 2x Grand Archivist	Ability (24) 2x Call of the Wild 2x Crushing Walls 2x To My Side! 2x Cat Trick 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 2x Tracking 2x Venomstrike Trap 2x Animal Companion 2x Deadly Shot 2x Explosive Trap 2x Freezing Trap 2x Multi-Shot	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Haters gonna hate, dusters gonna dust, hunters gonna hunt you down ;) 

 That's...actually, that looks pretty good.

 Thank you, hope that helps people be a little bit more open minded about this card and card reveals in general.

Blizzard generally don't make shit cards aside from obvious pack fillers. There are not shit cards, only shit deck builders and shit meta preventing a ton of card from being played. (not just this meta, all metas) 

I'm going to make a prediction tonight. Next April, after rotation, minionless hunter will be a real deck that wins real games on ladder. I have tried to build minionless decks for a long time and now this thing has me excited. They want to take hunter in a spell only direction. That could be a unique style that no other class has as an aspect. 

It doesn't have to be that good. I just want something for hunter that nobody else has. Generating minions from spells is actually a really interesting concept, there's no battlecries involved, it's all mindgames and manipulation. You bait your opponent into summoning your minions for you at a discounted rate with secrets. You get paid off with Spellstone into double Leok or Huffers or 1 of each. Then you have the DK to go the distance with.

Seriously why run minions at all with Rexxar in a deck? Nothing you draw after playing him will be as good as a Zombeast. 

I know this card looks like trash. It is bad right now. I get it. However, I can appreciate what it represents for the future of the class.

I'm going to make a prediction tonight. Next April, after rotation, minionless hunter will be a real deck that wins real games on ladder. I have tried to build minionless decks for a long time and now this thing has me excited. They actually want to take hunter in a spell only direction. That could be a unique style that no other class has as an aspect. 

It doesn't have to be that good. I just want something for hunter that nobody else has. Generating minions from spells is actually a really interesting concept, there's no battlecries involved, it's all mindgames and manipulation. You bait your opponent into summoning your minions for you at a discounted rate with secrets. You get paid off with Spellstone into double Leok or Huffers or 1 of each. Then you have the DK to go the distance with.

Seriously why run minions at all with Rexxar in a deck? Nothing you draw after playing him will be as good as a Zombeast. 

I know this card looks like trash. It is bad right now. I get it. However, I can appreciate what it represents for the future of the class.

I hadn't noticed this. When you line them up they do look like a raid party. Seems good. It would be pretty cool if they had connected entrance and exit lines when played against each other or like a guild slogan or something they all say for the rp crowd.

Zola the Gorgon

Card goes in everything that wants value instead of tempo. Extremely versatile. May not be the most powerful card in the set but from a design standpoint it's my favorite.