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DH is insane. Nothing beats it. It is so overturned. The only deck holding it back was pre-nerf paladin. 

Again, nerfs make the game unplayable shit.

Game has become unplayable shit since the nerfs. DH is unbeatable. Another big win for the idiots at Team 5.

Battletag: Jonesy978#1381

Region: NA

Usual Play Time: It depends

Level of Experience: Normally hit legend

I'm looking for: Anyone online who would like to rant/ chat about the game.  Lots to talk about! :) 

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Alarm-o-Bot with no tag, 3/3 deathrattle +2 mana mono-card and a negligible effect like lifesteal (each legendary they give to the paladin surpasses the previous one in trash) yet another card without synergy in the paladin...

The only good thing about getting junk cards is that you already know they won't see a nerf (because every time paladin is played at high tier the nerfs are raining hard already from the first week) we would never afford to disturb the rouge players tier 0 for an infinite number of years...

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 You hit the nail on the head. Again, massive power cards for Rogue, shit for Paladin. MAYBE this card can work in some kind of control Paladin deck. BORRRINNNGGG.  Why can't they just make a silverhand recruit deck that's competitive? 

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Quote from Souless_Anghel >>

This is the 3rd time in a row that I posted in this thread. I have to take a break from this game, I'm halfway through to getting the golden Death Knight portrait and I'm livid at the card designers for creating such a high-roll meta because it's an actual pain to have fun in a game in which you can die on Turn 2. I'm going to release all of my anger in this rant and take at least a week off from this game designed by Hearthstone "players" whom I assume don't even play their own game to test cards.

Implocks: This deck is already good enough from spawning so many imp tokens as well as buffing those imps to be massive in the early game. It can refill its board efficiently as well as having insanely good card draw to keep the pressure going. HOW IN HELL IS IT ABLE TO LAST UNTIL FATIGUE? Why did they give Warlock curses? There is barely any interaction for this mechanic besides the player having to hold as much cards as possible and getting milled in the process. Warlocks can easily spam the stupid curse cards so that the player is practically taking fatigue damage. Now, they are able to contend with Control decks even if their swarm of respawning imps don't manage to kill them.

Evolve Shaman: You can spawn an 11/11 Taunt that lets you cheat out other cards if left alive as early as Turn 2. Even if you "low-roll", you get an 8/8 minion early on the board and you can create more threats later in the game. The pool of late-game minions is small that practically any result is good enough. The supposed drawback of evolving minions is that you'll get random crap that could be worse than what you've got on board. I'm dumbfounded that you made Evolve Shaman so consistent in Standard. I'm not even talking about the new evolve card since they can just play the location as well and get a decent result. HIGH ROLLS SHOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT AND BE DONE SO EARLY. Even Big Priest had to wait for a few turns and they could whiff too on their shit.

I would talk about the other classes but a lot of the issues come from Mana Cheat and the LACK OF RISK from playing certain cards. This may sound blasphemous but very powerful cards should have a steep cost to playing them. I don't know why Rune of the Archmage was printed, it's a BS card. You should be punished for playing a card that cheats out 20 mana worth of MAGE SPELLS. There should be a risk to playing a card like that such as getting Pyroblast'd in your own face. 

Random stuff can be fun and good, but when you make it consistently rewarding for players, it takes away the magic. I am not impressed by your ability to summon Thaddius, Monstrosity on Turn 2 because there was no special risk in it. You were practically guaranteed a good outcome whether RNG wanted you to have him or a Raid Boss Onyxia.

Do I blame the players? No, not necessarily since they were dealt those cards. I'm more upset at Team 5 for designing this meta. Sure, you guys initially didn't expect Evolve Shaman to be so effective. Yes, you guys probably could not have seen how Implocks would have incorporated Curses to contend with Control decks.

HOWEVER, why did you guys not adjust the Mini-Set cards? You had nearly two months to look at the meta and even play it for yourself to rethink about the upcoming cards. Why did you think that Implock would need more support by giving them Nofin's Imp-ossible to give them a sticky board? Why did you print Thaddius that heavily cheats out mana, what made you think that we wanted more mana cheating? I know you guys are capable of readjusting these cards since you guys nerfed Shockspitter almost immediately at the start of the March of the Lich King expansion. Even now you guys just banned Test Subject because players pointed out how it could be abused in Wild. 

I hope balancing is faster than last time for all of our mental sakes. Have a nice month, y'all.

 

 

There's one simple question you have to ask yourself:
Why do they continue to make the same "mistakes" again and again despite the backlash from players like us who prefer a slower pace of the game and a more balanced gameplay overall?

It's not like they never listened to players feedback in the past and made drastic changes to please them.
They did. The difference is that this feedback came from a much bigger part of the playerbase.

Guess what all these players demanded. Shorter games.
They also expressed their hate for attrition type control decks in general and demanded to get rid of them.
Players were actually just fed up with Dr.Boom Mech Warrior (understandably) and overreacted but the devs simply couldn't ignore this mass of unsatisfied players (some of them even being huge content creators back then) and so they changed their game design approach according to these players preferences.
Ever wondered why the few viable pure control decks that popped up in the past few years got immediately nerfed into the ground while other much more powerful decks just got a slap on the wrist?
This is why.

This is not some sort of conspiracy or the result of mistakes made by the devs.
They simply do whatever is necessary to please the majority of players.
If their current game design would actually hurt their business, they would've listened to our criticism and changed the game design long ago.

 I think you are right.... which really saddens me. It means this game is just not for me anymore. 

I agree with all the broken decks people have been discussing on here.  They are all awful to face.

Now, I'm in dumpster legend, and it's nothing but Frost DK v. Blook Dk. I hate them both, for different reasons, and am sick of the game. 

Again.  Time to move on. Any news on Arclight Rumble?

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I'm not going to lie.

Every time I see a Rogue play Shadowstep on their Astalor, the Flamebringer , Queen Azshara , etc multiple times, it just makes my eyes roll so far in the back of my head. Wow, I get to witness you bouncing your win condition back into your hand where I can't interact with it unless I run Theotar, the Mad Duke or pray to RNGesus to snipe it with Patchwerk.

By no means I am saying that Shadowstep deserves a Warsong Commander nerf because it's still a cool card unique to Rogue's class identity. But can we fix some of the mana cheating problems in the game like how Wildpaw Gnoll is basically a Chillwind Yeti with rush that costs 0 mana if you just run Maestra of the Masquerade.

 

 Shadowstep should be deleted. It has been in every Rogue deck since inception. I'm so, so sick of it. For the sake of ensuring the game feels "fresh" if nothing else, it is time for it to go.

The problem with both Rogue decks is they feel like shit to play against. You get high-rolled as early as turn 3 or 4 (or maybe 5 with DR Rogue) and have no way to deal with their board. Nothing you did mattered. The mana cheating is disgusting.  It's just stupid.

I want to PLAY Hearthstone. By that I mean I want to make decisions each turn and actually interact with my opponent. I would prefer it if games generally lasted longer than turn 5, and by that I mean meaningfully lasted longer. There would be a chance either player could win. A small amount of RNG or mana-gain is fine. But not this nonsense.

If my opponent can simply blow me away early in the game and there is no way I can counter him, what is the point of playing? 

DH is another problem for the same reason.

The signature cards are so disappointing. They look awful.

The single biggest problem in the game now is Brann. Shockspitter, Denathrius, etc - all made horribly oppressive due to this card. It should be removed from standard immediately.

I have some faith with some light balance adjustments this meta could be good and diverse. But we are not there yet.

I am so fucking sick of this Relic Demon Hunter deck. If they hit their curve, the power swings are fucking unbelievable. Why can't this game be actually about strategy and thoughtfulness rather than "did I draw my OP shit in the right order'?

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I hit rock bottom at nearly 10,000 legend (my worst rank ever) and then played a Secret Pure Paladin deck I made. I have climbed back to 6000 legend - woo hoo - and it is actually decent against everything but Mage. The problem is Mage is over half my games. 

 Would like to see your deck, please. I keep pulling card for Pally so I feel like I'm going to be able to run some stuff soon. I just need their colossal and hero now pretty much. 

 Sorry for the delayed response. I have been using this deck recently and I've had a positive win-rate against everything but Mage. Druid is close to 50-50, but I have it currently slightly better than that.

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100% - Hearthstone is and has been broken for years now. It's just some sort of bad mobile Casio game wannabe.

The whole point for creating a deck died when discover was introduced which was a big draw for anyone 'liking' the game in the first place.

Another fun aspect was creating homebrew decks that could compete. That died when Blizzard were making pre-built synergy cards that released with every set literally killing any form of player innovation or uniqueness in the game.

Balancing rules such as restricting legendaries to 1 per deck died once they infested the game with discover and other forms of rng which let you have multiple copies of cards with the most powerful effects. Cool right??. No it's not. They should know that if everything is powerful everywhere, all the time...then nothing is.

This stuff could have actually been fixed and balanced years ago, but Blizzard never cared about balance, fun, or game integrity. They only cared about what broken busted stuff they could print every 3 months to generate cheap buzz to sell packs with a plan to nerf it all post purchase.

Now due to the prepackaged 'win' conditions they print each set, everyone is forced to play net decks which beyond being godawfully boring, stale, and repetitive...also makes 90% of the other cards completely useless each expansion. Remember when murlocs were ruining the metas?

As a result, Hearthstone is now so terrible, soulless, unenjoyable, and imbalanced as a strategy card game that there is only one solution....

"Nuke it from orbit"

The game is simply broken.
This is what happens when you take the strategy out of a strategy game and let rng rule instead.
And everyone who demanded to get rid of archetype strengths and weaknesses back then is directly responsible for the current state of HS.
HS would look a lot different today if all those people who didn't know shit about card game design would've just shut up instead of harassing the devs non-stop on twitter and making all these crazy demands that were purely based on negative biases and emotions instead of factual knowledge.

 

They need to fucking remove Brann from this game!!! 3x Tendrils that all double cast the 10dmg mage card!!! 3 mana = 60 dmg… i dont fcking get it.. clown Fiesta of game! Holy shit.. losing cause of some random generated shit! Zero fcking braincells was used by the opponent to win that match! Lucky piece of shit

Holy shit, I'm not one to usually bitch but I can't remember the last time a meta shift like this recent nerf made this game so unfun for me. Every single person is sweating so hard with DH, barely anyone is trying to have fun in legend.

Nah deleting this game now. I don't remember the last time the game was fun. The designers since Ben Brode left are so incompetent. 

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Game has become unplayable shit since the nerfs. DH is unbeatable. Another big win for the idiots at Team 5.

 They only nerf to make people buy more packs. Omg, must have DH legendarys nao! Or not...I refuse to play this tryhard class.

Edit: Played a hunter with Barrel of Monkeys and Pozzik. Seems to work.

Honestly there really isn’t any hope left for the game. It’s just to far gone at this point. It’s to bad. 

So glad that we nerfed Paladin into the ground to get demon Hunter that has a higher win rate, easier to pilot, and does damage to face you can do nothing about. Hat a pathetic shit game. Every single update it just goes further and further down the drain.

Sad to read that shaman is that good in standard, too. Changed from wild to standard, cause I was sick of shaman. Evenshamans feels bad playing against, if they have a good earlygame. Big Shaman is annoying, too. But what I really hate is this silly Shudderwockdeck. It just feels bad playing against it. Nearly every Shamandeck is a cancer for me, cause it just isn‘t funny to play against no matter what they are playing. This class at whole is so stupid. I meanwhile hate shaman more than priest and that is quite something. 

Sick of playing against this spell damage shaman that just consistently wins either turn 6 or turn 7. I can be at 30 health, they drop two spell damage minions and chain spells to deal 30+ from hand. Broken. So difficult to even interact with, besides running garbage tech card that overall make your deck worse how do you deal with it..