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Are people blind or what?
Reno isn't really a mage, Finley isn't really a PALADIN, elise isn't really a druid... It's about the item they are wearing in this expansion. That's is their temporary "class" identity.
Reno has a crystal canon -> Arcane mage stuff
Finley has a Golden fish -> gold, shiny, paladin, you know
Elise has a lunar staff -> balance druid stuff
Brann has a dinosaur and a rifle -> hunter thing.
They are just neutral explorers infused with the power of some items.
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To the OP or anyone else interested in golden cards: Before you go on your dust spending spree, You need to figure out exactly what you really want out of this so you do not make a 3600 dust mistake or worse. Here are some guidelines you might want to consider:
1. You better be playing the card frequently enough for it to be worth it. There isn't much point in crafting something gold if you are not serious about playing Wild decks long term. Free to play players who have trouble keeping up with standard shouldn't bother along with those who dust everything nonstandard upon rotation.
2. You better like the deck you are playing it in. There is no point in crafting a golden Malygos if you are bad at playing those types of decks (even if you really like Dragons).
3. What aesthetic value does it provide you? Do you just like the art? Do you like golden cards that crap out more golden cards? Do you like to have certain cards gold as a visual reminder that it is in your hand? Are Dragons or Pirates just your jam? How much does the Warcraft lore really matter to you?
4. Are there other rarities and cards that are just better? You can craft 2 golden Academic Espionage for the price of 1 golden legendary. If you like to play thief rogue this is one of the best values in the game.
5. How much time and money are you going to invest in the game to get to your goal.
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No, but it'll be played more than its winrate says it should be because it is a blast to play.
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Obviously, this has at least a decent chance of getting played in mill decks (which would put it in wild territory). I believe those decks would already be running Gang Up, and besides the first turn this is just a superior version of that.
Outside that obvious scenario though, it's a cheap 'do nothing' card that can potentially boost - and potentially massively - the power level of your deck. Now, I've long been an advocate of not running 'do nothing' cards unless there's a very good reason to (I've probably been telling people not to run Telepathy in MTG for like 10-15 years now), but when you consider the trade off of 'do nothing for 1 mana now, potentially get much more powerful draws later - draws that eclipse the fact that you did nothing via a battlecry or just sheer power level', it's worth taking a look at.
Obviously this works best with powerful late game cards - legendaries, such as whatever would be replacing the Lich King and so on. That would lean towards a control deck. Has there ever actually been a high tier rogue control deck? I'm leaning towards no - at least, not since Blade Flurry was nerfed, as they're severely lacking in AoE compared to your more typical control classes. So I don't think it's going to find a spot there.
What does pique my interest though is Tess. That's a card that fits in a deck that's less control and more trying to crank the value up to 11, it's a card that you'd love to potentially play each turn after you've set up a nice collection of spells on it, and with those extra cards it's playing it definitely ends up eclipsing the fact that you initially got nothing out of your 1 mana card.
So basically, I could see people running 1 or 2 copies of this in Tess builds such as Tesspionage (depends if the meta allows them to be that greedy), but unless some new control build pops up in the coming expansion it's not likely to see standard play elsewhere.
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All these complaints.... as if everyone here's an expert. Stop the whining. Blizzard managed pretty well to tone down the power levels of recent expansions - we won't see something of KFT / KNC power levels in a while, I guess.
They already play tested that card and I am confident that they didn't say "Oh my god, if I add this card to my rogue deck, I always win, what a coincidende - let's release it like that!". This card has a HUGE tempo problem. If you face midrange hunter and have this crap in hand, well, you wish you hadn't. If you face midrange hunter and DRAW this card you feel even sorrier for putting it in your deck.
Aggro decks won't give you time to abuse this card. Jade Idol at least could be played for tempo on the board. This card here is nothing like that. Play it on as many pogo hoppers as you want. By the time you draw the hoppers, you're dead.
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This new expansion will be no different than the current. Same aggressive mindlessness or repulsive OTK awaits, only with different cards. Sorry to spoil your enthousiasm. You seem to be a nice fanboy with little selfrespect. The ideal Blizzards target audience.
I'm not a fanboy by any means and I've spent $15 on 2 welcome bundles max through 3 years of playing. I'm obviously not the kind of consumer Blizzard wants. I hate what Blizzard has turned into and also I really dislike people like you, sorry. You're a pure elitist and think you're the smartest person on this forum always bringing your negativity to every discussion. Just let people enjoy things dude. Not everyone cares about the future meta, not everyone thinks that skill should be the deciding factor in this game. Some people just want to collect cards and have fun with their collection while laddering from time to time.
The first sentence of this thread is here for a reason
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Quote from One_Man_Army >>Battlecry: uninstall Hearthstone because they are using the same minor character for the third time now, while ton of important WoW characters still haven’t seen the light of the day in Heartstone.
I find this argument so silly. Why do ppl get so upset? HS is based on WOW universe, it does not mirror it nor its lore. WOW uses same characters over and over to develop a story, maybe we can get something like that in HS with time as well, but not when ppl keep QQing about adding new characters and never developing the story of existing ones.
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guys,its okay to reusing old characters cause they was only existing in the game,they actually do some small influence on lore,i think small indy compani trying to start a story where characthers will interact with each other and arounding world maybe,i sure that we will see many new characters in future,but now they just trying to develop lore and relationships between all old characters.Blizzard are not copying,they are improve old stuff,pls see the difference.
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Patches was broken because he provided great board control early game for "free". Giving him Rush just reverts him back to being overpowered. Nobody cared that he could deal face damage the turn you played another pirate, it was the ability to attack into a creature and trade with it on turn 1 or 2 that made him so good.
Even with the nerf he still sees play, giving him rush effectively undoes the reason he was nerfed in the first place.
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I'm not sure they're directly associated with Hagatha. If nothing else, Hench-Clan Burglar is a Kobold and much more likely to be affiliated with Togwaggle.
Instead I think it is just a group, or clan, happy to be hired out as henchmen, and that is exactly what the League of EVIL has done: hired them.
It is notable the clan is a diverse group of the half-intelligent races: murlocs,
gnolls, kobolds and quilboars (so far). I'm not sure if much can be inferred from that but I find it interesting.2
That's what they did with Kalecgos. The amount of text on a card is a limitation though; for better or for worse HS cards never go beyond 4 lines of text, and I don't think it would all fit on Tak. Perhaps a card with only the battlecry you suggest will exist one day.
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That's not a bug. Genn doesn't change your hero power, just its cost. So if you don't have a golden hero power to begin with, of course Genn won't make it golden.
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This looks like a blend of Rafaam and Hagatha's schemes. Yes it has a few synergies that would distinguish it from them but it is probably too similar.
I too suspect Boom's scheme got changed at the eleventh hour, but it is possible it is overcosted because of major synergy further down the line. After all, some cards have been called dreadful during their own expansion but been important parts of the meta later on (e.g. Leeching Poison), so I am always reluctant to write off cards until they rotate out.
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Spectral Cutlass doesn't suck...
Anyway, I like that they're continuing to make rogue weapons with deathrattle. You often won't want to with a 4 attack one but it opens up some interesting decisions with the hero power.
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Well TGT gave warrior a 2 mana 3/3 with charge and an easier condition to satisfy on turn 2 (Alexstrasza's Champion), and no one really complained. Why? Because it was a dragon deck, and wasn't given complete freedom to build a deck to break it.
The same applies here. Yes a 2 mana 3/4 with rush is beyond broken, but you can only use it reliably if a significant part of the deck is value focused. It may lead to a tempo-burgle hybrid (which is already possible in Wild), the power of which is difficult to comment on, but certainly it won't break the game in the traditional slow burgle decks.
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HS doesn't follow WoW lore very closely, and certainly not chronologically so there is no sense of being 'behind'. Rastkhan's Rumble has ties to the most recent events in WoW (Princess Talanji is a major new character there) for what that's worth.
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There's a distinction between the card type 'spell' and the concept of magic. It is pretty obvious few of the hunter/warrior/rogue spells actually represent anything magical.
Meanwhile conjuring minions out of thin air is pretty magical, although I agree it does feel weird to have so many archmages focused solely on this branch of magic.
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Avoiding plagiarism is a must, but where there's no infringement on laws game designers should make whatever cards are best for their respective game. If that means having cards that share essentially the same mechanics, then so be it.
BTW, all these card games use the same basic mechanics of having a deck, drawing cards, and having minions and spells (insert appropriate names as required). It is inevitable some card effects look the same too since they are working with the same fundamentals.
So yes, it's A-OK.
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Ranks don't mean anything to me. I normally hover between ranks 15 an 9 in both standard and wild (the gap between 9 and 5 is not friendly to the casual decks I play), but I don't really care where I end up at the end of each season.
I have more than enough of a collection to not be worried about grinding out every last bit of gold and dust, so I prefer not to spend any time trying to climb when I can have plenty of fun where I already am.