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 Finally i didnt find value throughout tracking so i changed both for 2 Imprisoned Felmaw having more odds to do an additional 5 damage face! 

 I've mainly played hunter since I came into this game last year and two Tracking seems to be almost automatic whenever it comes to any deck which isn't a highlander.  I understand the appeal of the card as it can assist in locating the perfect card when looking for lethal or in an attempt to get out of a tight spot but far too often I find the discarding aspect to be too punishing.  I feel like most hunter decks are either aggressive or midrange with no additional value generation so potentially throwing away 13% of your deck is something it can ill afford.

 I've tried a lot of decks out with various implementations of Tracking and I feel that including one while replacing the other with an additional tech card really is the sweet spot for me.

that's a really wrong way to think about it...with such an aggresive deck like Face/Dragon Hunter, you're not gonna win through value, by playing all of your 30 cards - you're gonna win or lose with playing maybe around 10 of them - cards discarded by tracking you should consider as being at the bottom of your deck anyway.

What rank was this played at? I have some doubt if it was on higher ranks since I watched a part of the VOD, and you blocking yourself from lethal against a Priest by playing Umberwing first was painful to watch, nhf.

Might try it because I'm in the dumpster anyways.

If Spell Druid manages to stick a Soul of the Forest, it's GG for Warlock most of the time

I played Magtheridon in Gala Warlock day 1 of expansion (before everyone refined Gala Warlock), because I got it in a pack...the card single-handedly defeated a number of Demon Hunters...cut it now that DH is not so prevalent 

Because the whole point of the MMR system is that you should play people close to your skill level. It DOESN'T MATTER WHAT RANK YOUR OPPONENT IS, if you're EQUAL IN SKILL. You have to grind out the climb to Legend tho, it's not as easy as playing 20 games and there, you're in.

Also, I have people on my friendslist who are 15k+...this is gonna be the season with the most Legend players ever.

OP you do realize it's April 1st?

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I've been playing basically only this game for over 6-7(?) years, far too invested in it to drop it.

 

Don't worry, it's because I have a job/gf/friends so no time to spend on other games :D (I did start around 10 new ones now that we're in quarantine tho xD)

Idk, I still like HS even though it has its frustrating moments like my opponent getting exactly Flik from Galakrond to save him from death and give him the game :/ :D :D

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Ignore what? People elling the truth? You are either one of the stupid people here who think rng is some kind of skill set. Or just incredibly dishonest. The games rng has slowly been ramped up the last 4 years and hasn’t stopped. At best it’s 15-20 percent skill and I wouldn’t even give it that much credit. So my last 3 games that were loses after I won four in a row were rogue rogue rogue. All in this same bs I sack you or I have the nuts I don’t need a brain cuz the game does all the work for me fashion. The first which started into Galakrond hail mary for two cards which gave him Alex, which gave him Kalegos and a Malygos. And naturally the other free card he got was of course Zilliax. And this was when he still had 21 cards I believe it was left on deck. Which in short won him the game. Or else he was dead the following turn. So that was all skill right? I should’ve just planned ahead for that giant swing and played better right?  Bli$$ard has openly said theY have rigged the game. What other proof do you need? They benefit by having a monopoly on the market and the fact other card games suck as well. Most of what was good about this game is long gone. And I’m sure I can speak for others who only play it still for that reason. And they have been playing for so long and took so long to build up their collection and dust that they’re too dedicated at this point as well.

 I'd say there is more skill than 15-20%, even with the massive RNG, 0-1 mana cards worth 60 mana etc. bullshit, because for example, I played Mech Paladin (with Kangors) a while back when the RNG was lighter tho, had a cruise over ~80 games with around 80%, until around 200 Legend....and then hit a brick wall..people were playing the SAME decks, but played quite a bit better than people below them, dropped my winrate all the way down to like 55%. 

Truth is there is too much bullshit RNG, but I think the skill part is that you now have to know how to get into those situations, or out of them (allowing RNG to happen, not dealing with the consequences).

With the last part, about having been playing for far too long to quit, I 100% agree, I've been playing basically only this game for over 6-7(?) years, far too invested in it to drop it.

Played one game in Legend, lost in fatigue to Control Warrior (they're back) who had Elysiana...so, I think this needs Elysiana as well? I'd cut one Storm Chaser probably, gonna try some more games these days.

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I belive I could think of so many cards, so I just looked at some legendaries. because in my opinion, a shit legendary is what makes a player really sad when you get it in your packs instead of a cool one

Wardruid Loti is such a flexible card, when it announced, I thought like every druid deck would have it, well unfortunately it is not played that much.
Commander Rhyssa I think the card is in the wrong class though. Hunter maybe? I'm not so sure but some paladin secrets do nothing if they trigger twice.
Dragon Soul is another one I think. We all know what priest did with Lyra the Sunshard. I am actually surprised that such an ongoing, hard to counter mechanic is actually not good. I thought that like even if it got activated once it would mean value but whatever.
Madame Lazul omg man I actually cannot believe that this card is not good. 3 mana 3/2 that shows 3 cards your opponent is holding and gives you a copy of one of them... I thought it would be crazy.
Krul the Unshackled I thought this card will be used to summon 2 Doomguards and some other huge demons but I never seen it on ladder.
Hobart Grapplehammer buffs every weapon in your hand AND deck, and comes as a 2 mana 2/2. oh boi I dont know but it sounded so crazy to me at first.
Murozond the Infinite I mean c'mon, get a copy of a possible good turn and get a free 8/8? sounded broken.

and finally, Illidan Stormrage just doesn't deserve to be such a weak card. one of the most iconic characters in lore, but never sees any play in hearthstone.

Err, Wardruid Loti is a key card in Quest Druid, and probably not a bad rng outcome to get into your hand

I'd go with Boompistol Bully tbh, Poacher is wrong imo, seems reactive and we want to smash face most of the time...Bully disables the opponent as well as presenting a 5/5 body, feels like a good choice even though it's not a Dragon itself.

You could try and run an Explosive trap, seen quite a bit of people teching that in as well

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Anyone who feels discover is out of control (aside from maybe rogue) has obviously blocked out the days of drakonid operative, which enabled a deck that allowed you to play like 4 spells at most so you could power ridiculous swing turns and still clear boards with your opponent's cards. That was perfectly comparable bs.

Trouble with operative was it could easily discover itself - an easy fix is possible, like with dragonqueen, cards shouldn't be able to generate copies of themselves imo (through discover, battlecry, deathrattle or whatever) 

 It discovered a copy of a card in your opponent's deck, which is not the same, you can't fix that. Besides, most times they got more from netherspite historian. That deck sucked to play against. 

 Oh shit, I completely remembered that wrongly lmao, must be the infinite dragonqueen ptsp xD

Although, I do think it stands that cards shouldn't be able to give you themselves as options, solves a lot of potential problems before they manifest

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Anyone who feels discover is out of control (aside from maybe rogue) has obviously blocked out the days of drakonid operative, which enabled a deck that allowed you to play like 4 spells at most so you could power ridiculous swing turns and still clear boards with your opponent's cards. That was perfectly comparable bs.

Trouble with operative was it could easily discover itself - an easy fix is possible, like with dragonqueen, cards shouldn't be able to generate copies of themselves imo (through discover, battlecry, deathrattle or whatever) 

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I do enjoy the game - I just dont care for what its become.  Its crazy.  I feel like my wins arent earned and and my losses arent my fault.  Like everytime.  Thats not how it should be.  We've gone WAY too far into the random system.  Theres no class identities hardly anymore.  I only do dailies now and havent spent any money on the game either where before I didnt mind contributing to it.  Its just not good.  IMO.

 I empathize and agree with this, and it's actually something I've talked about with several of my friends that consistently get legend. Skill still exists, but it's so much harder to make use of nowadays. I feel for the last year or so, ever since the introduction of lackeys and zephyrus, this game has gone in the direction of being an RNG clown fiesta where it's virtually impossible to play around your opponent's hand bc you can't possibly know what they might have. Zephyrus is hands down the dumbest card ever printed in the history of HS imo and it's absolutely ludicrous that it exists in standard, let alone the game as a whole. Lackeys are admittedly less broken but for me have no place whatsoever in standard: they are the epitome of what wild is as a format, not standard. With all of that said, you should know that you're not alone with regard to your frustration with the decidedly ridiculous direction this game has headed as of late. I know of several consistently high ranked players, myself included, that feel exactly the same way

 I second this post, exactly my feeling.. I get Legend, scamazing and getting scamazed along the way more than ever... 

yeah, I dislike that, think it also ruined class identity when almost every class can have access to other classes' cards...