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Pirates beat everything in wild just like standard. Game is dead

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Pirates beat everything in wild just like standard. Game is dead

 if your facing lots of pirates in wild, you should be using the powerful taunts we have in wild to counter them (Deathlord, Sludge Belcher, Annoy-o-tron, etc.)

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Pirates beat everything in wild just like standard. Game is dead

 if your facing lots of pirates in wild, you should be using the powerful taunts we have in wild to counter them (Deathlord, Sludge Belcher, Annoy-o-tron, etc.)

Secret Paladin definitely has options for anti-aggro. Coghammers are great against face decks (and are still useful against slower decks) and they also received Wickerflame Burnbristle. I underestimated the guy at first but he fits in well with Secret Paladin and offers a dual taunt/heal package for 3 mana. Combined with Consecration to get rid of pesky Small Time Buccaneers and such I wound up having a positive winrate against them after making those changes.

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Standard will still be more popular, since that's the mode Blizzard is pushing for the most. And yes, Blizzard endorsement in terms of advertisements and tournaments do matter, a lot.

Wild will always be this gentleman's club, where only the rich (people with a lot of cards), old (by HS terms) men and women play.

On topic, no. More people will start to play Wild for sure, but imo there will never be a point where Wild would be more popular than Standard.

I got sucked into standard again after the expansion, and regret it. But it was tempting to see what the new cards were like; I really wish I'd skipped finding out what the new cancers were. Standard is "come see the new cancer" mode" to me, now. Whatever that cancer is, esp if aggro, Wild probably has better counters, just 'cause it has more cards.  Now I'll start every month in Wild, and pretty much ignore expansions.

Where does this misconception come from that wild is nothing but secret paladin?  I encounter secret paladin maybe 1 in 20 matches in wild.  There are so many unique decks in wild it's near impossible to predict what you're against.  Whereas in standard its the same 3 pirate decks and same 3 reno decks over and over.

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Wild is unfriendly IMO simply because having to craft cards you can no longer get in packs is somewhat prohibitive, as well as Wild just having a massive card pool. You're probably fine crafting Boom, Belchers, Chows, etc. but thats hardly the end of the list and you'd still need to know those were the best cards.

I don't think it's something people won't figure out on their own quickly, but there's a reason Blizzard is pushing Standard for new players.

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On topic, no. More people will start to play Wild for sure, but imo there will never be a point where Wild would be more popular than Standard.

Heck I would even pay full price for those adventures.

my bet is arena as constructed doesn't seem to succeed anymore 

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Crafting Wild cards should cost 50% less, since they can only be played in half the game. I can even accept 30-25% taking into account adventures and tavern brawl... but a discount, even if small, would be really appreciated. 

I'd like to craft some Wild cards but they're the most expensive at the moment: you pay the same but you will use them less. It just doesn't make sense.

It does make sense, because i payed the full dust price for them back in the days, where no one knew a standard rotation would come. If they want to make those cards cheaper, blizzard firstly needs to give full dust refunds back. But since we know they wont do that, a cheaper wild set would be very unfair for all those who spent a lot on the older cards. So no.

But I'd only change the crafting cost, not the disenchanting cost. You'll still get 400 dust if you disenchant your Maexxna but I can craft Dr. Boom for 800 dust.

Changing the disenchanting cost as well would be really unfair, and offering a full refund doesn't make any sense.

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Wild is unfriendly IMO simply because having to craft cards you can no longer get in packs is somewhat prohibitive, as well as Wild just having a massive card pool. You're probably fine crafting Boom, Belchers, Chows, etc. but thats hardly the end of the list and you'd still need to know those were the best cards.

I don't think it's something people won't figure out on their own quickly, but there's a reason Blizzard is pushing Standard for new players.

  It is fully possible to play a game in Wild without having to worry about half of those cards. Also, Zombie Chow, Antique Healbot, Annoy-o-Tron, Piloted Shredder, Haunted Creeper a lot of the "staples" of certain decks are commons. So 40 Dust each. Not that back breaking.

Yeah sure, you won't have Kelthuzad or Dr. Boom right off the bat, but I think I only run into Kel once a month and Dr. Boom maybe once a week?

Wild, unless your playing a deck that absolutely NEEDs certain legendaries (like Reno) isn't that expensive to get into.

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Bitch I'm already in wild. Never understood the craze behind standard aside for new players. 

I sure don't hope so, then Blizzard is going to do even more to promote Standard CancerStone...

Standard exists so people DON'T have to run into Reno on the next expansion. I welcome the next standard cycle ASAP. 

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Standard exists so people DON'T have to run into Reno on the next expansion. I welcome the next standard cycle ASAP. 

Well secret pala is so dead in Wild now I dont know why ppl still bought that into a debate. Next rotation is very interesting for sure.

I've certainly been playing more wild this year.
I'm having success with mid-range hunter and oil combo rogue against a meta which is primarily pirate-based aggro.