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I too had a really hard time getting started; even now, the "Practise" AI curbstomps me most games against it because it simply seems to have a counter to everything I bring out, and most "Casual" games I play the same thing happens.
Usually it *seems* to me to be that I just get utterly horrid draw (nothing usable until at least turn 5 or 6, anyone? :D) but this is quite likely more a comment on my poorly-constructed Shaman deck: Not enough low-cost starting minions (I don't have many available to me that I really like) for the payoff of some mid-game combos and late-game stomping; this relies on my opponent not flooding the field with low-cost, buffable stuff. When it works, it works well; when it fails... It's embarassing. My mana curve is maxed on 4-cost, for instance, while I have no 0's, two 1's, three 2's, etc, and I haven't even unlocked all the Basic cards for the Shaman yet due to mostly getting stomped and not getting the EXP to get to Level 10!
You might be in a similar situation to me - you may just need to play some more, watch a heap of YouTube streams, and if you're having a bad run, quit for the night and have another stab the next day with a clear head and a desire for vengeance. I've been watching TotalBiscuit's "Lord of the Arena" series, and a lot of my current combos (which, with a better-constructed deck, I feel could be AMAZING) have come from watching that series and thinking "Well in that situation, I would have...", then getting similar situations in my games, testing my theory, and stomping around like a +10 / +10 Puss In Spiked Boots.
Oh, and maybe not rely *too* much on "Tier lists" and the constructed decks of others - Half the fun is experimenting and coming up with something that your opponents don't expect / can't react to easily.
TL;DR: Don't let the losses get to you (there will always be losses!); with experience and experiment come many stomps on your enemies' faces.
I am rank 10 with 4 legendaries without spending any money and without playing ladder very much. It takes a lot of time, but if you can average 7-10 wins in arena, you never run out of gold and have an unlimited stream of packs.
I'm a new player... (in the sense that I only started playing one or two months ago, because I wasn't sure if there was going to be another wipe, when I found out, I started playing again).
I don't have even all the common cards, probably not 10% of all Rares, 0 epics, and maybe 1 or 2 Legendaries (weaker ones, like Antonidas and Onyxia).
Explain to me again how I can only have fun if I'm "placing high in a Ranked mode" (that still has no rewards) or only by "winning" (whatever the hell that means for someone like you)? Please, do explain.
If a new player is not having fun, and the only way they can have fun is by having a "fair" competitive game from the start (which, mind you, NO TCG/CCG will ever be), I have some bad news for these players. Either way, stop judging everyone as if they're all like the tryhard morons who can only have fun in a game if they're "winning" (again, whatever that means in today's games), instead of actually having some legitimately good time.
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Card Design ChampionI've had my ups and downs with this game for awhile now. I will really enjoy it one week and then totally hate it the next. There is alot of RNG involved in how the game plays, and playing well can only help so much against better draws, better cards, or total RNG madness cards like Knife Juggler , Nat Pagle , or Mad Bomber .
Now I 'm not the highest ranked player ever, but I've played just one deck, for about 50 games and got to rank 12 before I couldn't seem to catch win steaks and stopped playing to go back to Arena'ing. Here's the deck
Now this deck isn't super expensive, but it does have a fair amount of commons and a few rares. You could replace any of the rares if you really had to. Spellbreaker could replace Keeper of the Grove, Gnomish Inventor or Cult Master could replace Nourish, and Acidic Swamp Ooze could replace Knife Juggler. You could also change out some of the commons in the deck for a whole spell power package. I'm not saying this deck is totally amazing. But its a cheap deck that can win games, especially in basic play mode.
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.
I'm not sure why you directed this to me, nothing has shown me that you can't just buy your way into winning games, because that's exactly what you can do in this game, at that point all you need to do is buy, buy, buy, buy until you have 2x each card in the game, visit hearthstone fansites and construct decks and win win win, with maybe a few losses. As per my original post, the issue I am having is simply that I don't have enough of the cards, however in my defense I've only spent 32.00 dollars, and finally played Arena last night where I went 2/3 which I don't think was too bad for my first real shot at it, but that again forced me to use money. I'm not quitting HS just yet, going to give it some time and try to learn better strategies, watch more streaming in both Arena, and Constructed. I won't be playing RANKED constructed, and have yet to even try that until I have all the cards I need for top tier decks, and at that point I will try to use my own head to come up with better decks to try to have the element of surprise when playing a mirrored image, who knows.
Every time you make the same mistake. The MMR in casual mode ensures that this doesn't happen.
New players clearly shouldn't expect to get very far in ranked mode; but casual mode is perfectly ok for them. They may still get a few wins or losses in a row - but that happens to the people in the top ranks with a tonne of legendaries too. That's just the random nature of the game.
Not too bad for your first arena. But the thing I don't understand is why you had to pay - the first arena match is supposed to be free!
Also, if you've done a few dailies you should have enough gold to pay for at least one arena (although I suppose you may have spent that gold on decks, of course).
my advice to you is to play arena. I played a good 2-3 weeks in arena alone, then I started playing constructed. tbh I still think arena is a better experience overall (more fun , more gold, etc) btw right now im ranked 8 and I didnt spend any money at all.
That applies to ranked mode only. Casual mode always uses MMR.
Note that the OP said: "I should also mention I have not played Ranked at all because I don't feel good enough to even try,"
I am very tired of hearing how this game is pay to win. It is in so such a pay to win game. The definition of a pay to win game is when you must spend RLC(Real life Cash) to get something and that is the only way to get it. This game is pay to accelerate meaning you can spends months accumulation coins and doing arenas for gold, or you can spend money and buy the packs to help you accelerate this process. please stop lableing games P2W until you are sure it is one. Thanks!
May the RNG be with you.
Awesome man!
It makes me smile to see a new player asking for help, receiving it, and reaping the rewards. Here's an awesome guide on getting started: http://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/1ua5c9/hearthstone_for_beginners_guide_and_resource/
Don't know if you know this, but the one time achievements are a good way to get a head start:
In fairness, I don't think he was expecting to be competitive in ranked play. He just wanted to be able to do his dailies.
I suspect what happened is that he won enough games in casual to increase his MMR so that he ended up losing a few games in a row before it fell back down to a more reasonable level.
I mentioned earlier on that I screwed up and played the Arena once on my first day having no idea what it was, so yes this time I paid 2 bucks.
That's exactly what happened. Once I gained 10's of levels in non-ranked play I began to lose non stop. I believe it was from 8am - 3pm ET non stop until I finally won a match using a Druid Spell Power deck, and then I won a few more, and then I tried my first 'legit' game of Arena where I went 2/3, and got a little extra, plus 300G for 100 something or other, lol.
I love the game, and I love strategy and I know some people want to say "this guy has only been playing the game for 4 days and wants to be competitive!", well hell ya I do, it's not like I'm jumping into Ranked which I wouldn't last in yet, but I sure as hell would like to play the game and have fun winning at least a few matches every hour or two, not play from 8-3 and notice a repetitive play from all mages, all paladins, etc, using the same cards, strategies, etc. My concern is still a valid one for this game, the cards are difficult to get to compete in even general play, and when you don't have them you can't build decks capable of winning so you are put into this 'cycle' of sure losses until you eventually come across someone newer like yourself where you have an opportunity, but if that can take up to 6-8 hours to come across well then there is something seriously wrong with the MMR algorithm that Blizzard has in place.
Maybe that algorithm needs to consider the mana curve, the rarity of cards, and the players level and win/loss ratio - however being a programmer myself I can tell you that would not be the easiest algorithm to write as a programmer, especially with the ever changing environment with card meta changing and new cards coming into the game, and old ones potentially leaving, etc. I would assume there would need to be a guestimate based on card type and hero you're playing in order for it to have any real significance. I'm not quite sure what their MMR is considering right now to determine its values. Regardless, maybe Blizzard needs to offer a free Arena match daily, A free pack of cards weekly, or something to help players who are having a hard time winning get cards. Not only that but I think it needs an export option to share libraries of cards with other players in or out of game and maybe some 'deck' tutorials built in the game, your average player may not know to look online at great sites like hearthpwn.com - Just a few things, but it is beta so I can't complain too much yet!
I am only putting money into 2.00 arena battles every so often for a while and see how it goes. The more I play the more I understand how each class plays and what I can do to combat it, but it doesn't work out 80-85% of the time! But hey! At least I can play music and rock out, right? :)
Thanks!
twitch.tv/reynad27
He did it in five days.