I don‘t realy understand why everyone has to share that he is quitting hearthstone. I quit tennis a couple years ago (no new expansion for ages!!) so what. After a couple years, everything can become boring and your priorities in life might change aswell. Play other games, do something else and you might come back in a couple months/years!
Blaming unlucky packs and general CCG mechanics is a little cheap. I mean what do you guys expect? That Team 5 reinvents the game every 4 months?
I'll tell you exactly why. Saw it with Magic the Gathering for 20 years.
Deep down, everyone fits into one of three categories: Casual, Pro, Wannabe (sometimes referred to as "faux pro")
Being a casual is awesome, and without them, this game wouldn't exist. Casuals don't jump on forums to bitch about imbalance and "rigged" RNG, because they play CASUALLY, and such things wouldn't interest them.
Being a pro, for the record, doesn't require that you've made money on the game or won a major tournament. At least in this demarcating use of the term, "professional" play is a mindset. Obviously this game involves random elements that other games don't, but the pro does not attribute performance or lack thereof to those random elements. Over time, pros understand that RNGesus gives and takes to the just and unjust alike, but the factors that can be affected by the player will eventually make the difference between long term winning and losing.
Obviously, there can be people who have the pro mindset that don't apply the time and effort to practice, and again, there is nothing wrong with that. But, you will very rarely find a pro complaining about factors beyond his or her control, and certainly NEVER find them doing so before enough time has passed such that deck-building and play line options are fully explored first.
Then there are the faux pros. Wannabes share some very easily-spotted traits, and they infest forums and message boards with their overarching message: "I would be able to play at the highest level, but X factor beyond my control stops me" The matchmaking is rigged, the professionals have preferential RNG, the cards are imbalanced, and my personal favorite, "I would win all the time if I played X deck, but I'm too good to play the EASY decks".
Faux pros will never admit to wanting to be successful at the game, they just want to have fun and play "intellectual" decks. But, of course, if that were true they wouldn't bother bitching on the forums about win rates of "easy" decks . . . they would just play what they wanted or not and take what enjoyment they could from a game, as everyone else does.
Don't mistake faux pros for casuals. Casuals don't deserve that sort of slander.
Obviously, this concept of the Triumvirate of Gaming is not my original idea, but it has held up across three decades and countless games.
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I don‘t realy understand why everyone has to share that he is quitting hearthstone. I quit tennis a couple years ago (no new expansion for ages!!) so what. After a couple years, everything can become boring and your priorities in life might change aswell. Play other games, do something else and you might come back in a couple months/years!
Blaming unlucky packs and general CCG mechanics is a little cheap. I mean what do you guys expect? That Team 5 reinvents the game every 4 months?
Spot on.
I really wonder why there can’t be a section for all the " I am finally done with this game!100% this time! What do you think? "
Its really annoying reading exactly this every expansion or when the meta becomes stale , or whatever reasons. It’s literally the same topic over and over again. And not only does it bring anything relevant or new to talk about, it’s also depressing for people who wanna enjoy the game or share fun moments with others.
I mean to stop playing is quite normal. People on average consume way too much Hearthstone, and i guess that’s the main reason why they eventually get bored with it. Real physical Cardgames are around for hundreds of years, but I guess because it’s fun to play it on weekends with friends in a pub or whatever. Not everyday.
Foreword: I want to know how many other people, like me, stopped playing, stoppad paying or simply stopped caring for this game when this expansion came out. I am not interested in people that still like the game, fans and supporter of the dev team that usually pop up and say "who cares?" or similar posts. I understand you're ok with the game. I just want to hear from others and their reasons for giving up the game.
I have been playing this game since beta and I have bought several hundreds of euros of packs and packages. I even have a TESPA back (as well as every other back I could get). I tracked every pack I opened using both software (for statistics) and an Excel (where I kept track of all missing cards, all legendaries found, the timer since last legendary found, the percentage of almost anything I could come up to etc). I was a collector and I liked to see my collection grow. I started feeling the game was losing quality with the increase amount of rng, the declining quality of the overall cards art, the amount of money it became necessary to spend in order to complete my collection. I never liked the idea of "wild" vs "standard" because I think I am entitled to play the cards I paid good money for. I also never liked the change from the old 2 small expansion (that very cheaply I could buy and get all cards) and 1 big expansion in favor of 3 big expansions (collecting became impossible platyng for free). Brode leaving was a bad hit too.
But I kept going, enjoying some game and going on with my collection. Then RR came out: the amount of duplicates I found was astounding, the legendaries I found had a worse than usual per pack opened ratio and the expansion felt pretty bad. I was almost fed up, when this expansion came out along with Year of the Dragon. It was it: I gave up. I had several packs and gold (that converted into other packs) and opened them all. Found 2 legendaries: I felt I couldn't care any less, I kept track of nothing, didn't update the Excel. That's it. I am done. I will keep playing the game because it is still fun. I am still watching Trolden videos for their quality and following good quality sites like this one because I want to keep following the game to some extent.
What about your experience? Do you have any hope for the future of this game?
I think you gotta clarify for everybody exactly how you've "given up Hearthstone" if you're still playing the game. For many, including myself, those things are contradictory.
the part "I never understand the point in these posts" pretty sums it up. I explained I wanted to hear from other people that are in my position, and still you feel the urge to come here and write. There are literally millions of other things you could do instead from writing in a post not meant for you, still you had to write.
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I notice that most people replying to my post are attacking me or plain ingnoring the fact that I openly wrote that I want to read from other people that share my feelings. I am not interested in your wits as much as you should not be interested in my rants.
This is where salt comes from: people that have not the guts to leave the game and feel the need to defend it even if they now hate it or simply don't enjoy it any more. It's just like in politics: when someone voted an asshole and hears someone else saying he is, in fact an asshole. Immediately, the 1st one feels the urge to defend the asshole, even if, deep down in his feelings, they know he is an asshole. But admitting this, would be like admitting his own failure in judgement and he keeps pretending he was right.
Please, post your happy threads or answer others'.
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OP, regarding the increase in "RNG" with each expansion, this is where you got it wrong. This is your opinion and I respect it. Here is my counter argument.
I came into HS during Ungoro was still being promoted and played the game till now. I did some research regarding HS on why people kept calling it rng-fest or whatnot. This is caused the first few expansion such as GvG and TGT sets had a lot of RNG effects and does not feel good when playing.
From Ungoro onwards till now, I've felt that Team 5 had released less pure RNG cards since then. This can be seen the top meta decks for each expansion and each deck requires certain skills to pilot them. Just look at the meta decks before the rotation.
I'm pretty sure that the first few expansions were a learning lessons for the devs as they figure out what's best for the game.
This, of course, doesn't mean there's no RNG. It is a card game after all. There's RNG in the cards you draw, RNG in the cards you faced and RNG in the decks you battle against. However, there is less RNG card effects now. Even if there are RNG effects, there are controlled and predictable. Pure RNG effects now mostly lies in Mages and Rogues.
OP, this are my thoughts and experience with the RNG of HS for playing nearly 3 years. Thank you for reading. ☺️
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Then there are the faux pros. Wannabes share some very easily-spotted traits, and they infest forums and message boards with their overarching message: "I would be able to play at the highest level, but X factor beyond my control stops me" The matchmaking is rigged, the professionals have preferential RNG, the cards are imbalanced, and my personal favorite, "I would win all the time if I played X deck, but I'm too good to play the EASY decks".
Faux pros will never admit to wanting to be successful at the game, they just want to have fun and play "intellectual" decks. But, of course, if that were true they wouldn't bother bitching on the forums about win rates of "easy" decks . . . they would just play what they wanted or not and take what enjoyment they could from a game, as everyone else does.
But the matchmaking system is rigged, even pro players admit it. On the good note, it was rigged into my favour past 2 months easy rank 5.
I notice that most people replying to my post are attacking me or plain ingnoring the fact that I openly wrote that I want to read from other people that share my feelings. I am not interested in your wits as much as you should not be interested in my rants.
This is where salt comes from: people that have not the guts to leave the game and feel the need to defend it even if they now hate it or simply don't enjoy it any more. It's just like in politics: when someone voted an asshole and hears someone else saying he is, in fact an asshole. Immediately, the 1st one feels the urge to defend the asshole, even if, deep down in his feelings, they know he is an asshole. But admitting this, would be like admitting his own failure in judgement and he keeps pretending he was right.
Please, post your happy threads or answer others'.
Sure u dont like reading others opinions. U only want others that share ur line of view. No criticism no counter argument. Just blindly follow ur same line of thought and NOBODY SAYS OTHERWISE OR ELSE....!!!!
Or a minute where have ive seen this? Oh yeah of course dictarorships
I notice that most people replying to my post are attacking me or plain ingnoring the fact that I openly wrote that I want to read from other people that share my feelings. I am not interested in your wits as much as you should not be interested in my rants.
This is where salt comes from: people that have not the guts to leave the game and feel the need to defend it even if they now hate it or simply don't enjoy it any more. It's just like in politics: when someone voted an asshole and hears someone else saying he is, in fact an asshole. Immediately, the 1st one feels the urge to defend the asshole, even if, deep down in his feelings, they know he is an asshole. But admitting this, would be like admitting his own failure in judgement and he keeps pretending he was right.
Please, post your happy threads or answer others'.
Again, if you could please clarify how you feel like you've "given up Hearthstone", cause I honestly am not sure what this topic is about. On one hand you're saying you've given up, and on the other you're saying you will keep playing it cause it's fun. How have you actually given up the game, then? What is the the point of the topic? You want to find more people who has stopped playing, but hasn't stopped playing? I'm a little confused.
I'd suggest that the OP, and others who find themselves in a similar situation, consider simply quitting the game - it's apparently causing the OP a good deal of frustration, and he's quite upset. There's really no excuse for choosing to shit yourself up while putting the blame on a game you know you no longer enjoy, rather than your own unwise decision to continue playing it.
It's just a game. It doesn't "mean" anything if you don't like it. It doesn't "mean" anything if you do. Once you've navigated your life to a point where you are making soul-searching decisions about whether or not to continue playing a game, you should know that you've fucked something up. Play the game when you enjoy it, and don't play it otherwise. And don't make a big fucking deal out of either choice. All things considered, it seems like pretty good advice, and it tends to generalize to lots of things other than games.
I'm with you OP, I'm tired of this stupid game, really, really tired... I don't care anymore about all the time and money I spend on it, it's time to stop!!! I will continue posting from time to time on this forum because I love the community and the community loves me (I'm so awesome!!! :D :D :D), but I will stop playing Hearthstone at least for a long time. :)
For me...
Currently now, I'm playing League of Legends on my Laptop and NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition on PS4, and of course, still trying to finish making my first video game as a developer. :)
Goodbye Hearthstone, goodbye Blizzard, see you later... in hell!!! ;)
I've been on the verge of quitting ever since Mean Streets. However, I found myself really enjoying this pre-rotation meta we had, for the first time in years (probably since Karazhan), mostly because the lower power level and the feeling that you could actually play the game and have an impact on it with your actions, rather than it being just a slot machine. Have to wait and see how the new meta will turn out to be.
RNG is definitely getting on my nerves. I keep getting the idea of being less and less lucky every expansion... But I lack data to support this claim. What I do have is my own experince and a personnal bias that comes with it. Every expansion, I take a pen down and write down what I get, how many packs I opened and after how many packs... Sometimes I would get lucky but more often than not, I'm not lucky and it's getting worse... Luckiest I ever got was at frozen throne where I got 1 legendary every 12 packs. But since then the trend is getting a lot worse.
Last night when I opened 102 packs, I had little fun honestly... I was more furious than anything else. I got my 1st legendary in my 8th pack and then it took another whooping 38 packs before another one... Got another one few packs later and then 2 more sequences of drought... All in all I got 3 strectchs where I would get one legendary card in 32-38 packs... Overall, I got 5 legendaries in 102 packs or 1 legendary every 20,4 packs.
I wonder how bad it needs to get before I stop giving blizzard money. I still have fun playing the game... But the whole paying for rng crap thing is upsetting me a lot!
I'll tell you exactly why. Saw it with Magic the Gathering for 20 years.
Deep down, everyone fits into one of three categories: Casual, Pro, Wannabe (sometimes referred to as "faux pro")
Being a casual is awesome, and without them, this game wouldn't exist. Casuals don't jump on forums to bitch about imbalance and "rigged" RNG, because they play CASUALLY, and such things wouldn't interest them.
Being a pro, for the record, doesn't require that you've made money on the game or won a major tournament. At least in this demarcating use of the term, "professional" play is a mindset. Obviously this game involves random elements that other games don't, but the pro does not attribute performance or lack thereof to those random elements. Over time, pros understand that RNGesus gives and takes to the just and unjust alike, but the factors that can be affected by the player will eventually make the difference between long term winning and losing.
Obviously, there can be people who have the pro mindset that don't apply the time and effort to practice, and again, there is nothing wrong with that. But, you will very rarely find a pro complaining about factors beyond his or her control, and certainly NEVER find them doing so before enough time has passed such that deck-building and play line options are fully explored first.
Then there are the faux pros. Wannabes share some very easily-spotted traits, and they infest forums and message boards with their overarching message: "I would be able to play at the highest level, but X factor beyond my control stops me" The matchmaking is rigged, the professionals have preferential RNG, the cards are imbalanced, and my personal favorite, "I would win all the time if I played X deck, but I'm too good to play the EASY decks".
Faux pros will never admit to wanting to be successful at the game, they just want to have fun and play "intellectual" decks. But, of course, if that were true they wouldn't bother bitching on the forums about win rates of "easy" decks . . . they would just play what they wanted or not and take what enjoyment they could from a game, as everyone else does.
Don't mistake faux pros for casuals. Casuals don't deserve that sort of slander.
Obviously, this concept of the Triumvirate of Gaming is not my original idea, but it has held up across three decades and countless games.
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Spot on.
I really wonder why there can’t be a section for all the " I am finally done with this game!100% this time! What do you think? "
Its really annoying reading exactly this every expansion or when the meta becomes stale , or whatever reasons. It’s literally the same topic over and over again. And not only does it bring anything relevant or new to talk about, it’s also depressing for people who wanna enjoy the game or share fun moments with others.
I mean to stop playing is quite normal. People on average consume way too much Hearthstone, and i guess that’s the main reason why they eventually get bored with it. Real physical Cardgames are around for hundreds of years, but I guess because it’s fun to play it on weekends with friends in a pub or whatever. Not everyday.
I think you gotta clarify for everybody exactly how you've "given up Hearthstone" if you're still playing the game. For many, including myself, those things are contradictory.
the part "I never understand the point in these posts" pretty sums it up. I explained I wanted to hear from other people that are in my position, and still you feel the urge to come here and write.
There are literally millions of other things you could do instead from writing in a post not meant for you, still you had to write.
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Say all you want one thing ia for sure. Judging an expansion that hasnt had 24 hours is ludicrous
I notice that most people replying to my post are attacking me or plain ingnoring the fact that I openly wrote that I want to read from other people that share my feelings. I am not interested in your wits as much as you should not be interested in my rants.
This is where salt comes from: people that have not the guts to leave the game and feel the need to defend it even if they now hate it or simply don't enjoy it any more.
It's just like in politics: when someone voted an asshole and hears someone else saying he is, in fact an asshole. Immediately, the 1st one feels the urge to defend the asshole, even if, deep down in his feelings, they know he is an asshole. But admitting this, would be like admitting his own failure in judgement and he keeps pretending he was right.
Please, post your happy threads or answer others'.
NINE Packs opened with 2 legendaries inside insofar
OP, regarding the increase in "RNG" with each expansion, this is where you got it wrong. This is your opinion and I respect it. Here is my counter argument.
I came into HS during Ungoro was still being promoted and played the game till now. I did some research regarding HS on why people kept calling it rng-fest or whatnot. This is caused the first few expansion such as GvG and TGT sets had a lot of RNG effects and does not feel good when playing.
From Ungoro onwards till now, I've felt that Team 5 had released less pure RNG cards since then. This can be seen the top meta decks for each expansion and each deck requires certain skills to pilot them. Just look at the meta decks before the rotation.
I'm pretty sure that the first few expansions were a learning lessons for the devs as they figure out what's best for the game.
This, of course, doesn't mean there's no RNG. It is a card game after all. There's RNG in the cards you draw, RNG in the cards you faced and RNG in the decks you battle against. However, there is less RNG card effects now. Even if there are RNG effects, there are controlled and predictable. Pure RNG effects now mostly lies in Mages and Rogues.
OP, this are my thoughts and experience with the RNG of HS for playing nearly 3 years. Thank you for reading. ☺️
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
But the matchmaking system is rigged, even pro players admit it. On the good note, it was rigged into my favour past 2 months easy rank 5.
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Sure u dont like reading others opinions. U only want others that share ur line of view. No criticism no counter argument. Just blindly follow ur same line of thought and NOBODY SAYS OTHERWISE OR ELSE....!!!!
Or a minute where have ive seen this? Oh yeah of course dictarorships
Again, if you could please clarify how you feel like you've "given up Hearthstone", cause I honestly am not sure what this topic is about.
On one hand you're saying you've given up, and on the other you're saying you will keep playing it cause it's fun. How have you actually given up the game, then? What is the the point of the topic? You want to find more people who has stopped playing, but hasn't stopped playing? I'm a little confused.
I'd suggest that the OP, and others who find themselves in a similar situation, consider simply quitting the game - it's apparently causing the OP a good deal of frustration, and he's quite upset. There's really no excuse for choosing to shit yourself up while putting the blame on a game you know you no longer enjoy, rather than your own unwise decision to continue playing it.
It's just a game. It doesn't "mean" anything if you don't like it. It doesn't "mean" anything if you do. Once you've navigated your life to a point where you are making soul-searching decisions about whether or not to continue playing a game, you should know that you've fucked something up. Play the game when you enjoy it, and don't play it otherwise. And don't make a big fucking deal out of either choice. All things considered, it seems like pretty good advice, and it tends to generalize to lots of things other than games.
I'm with you OP, I'm tired of this stupid game, really, really tired... I don't care anymore about all the time and money I spend on it, it's time to stop!!! I will continue posting from time to time on this forum because I love the community and the community loves me (I'm so awesome!!! :D :D :D), but I will stop playing Hearthstone at least for a long time. :)
For me...
Currently now, I'm playing League of Legends on my Laptop and NieR: Automata - Game of the YoRHa Edition on PS4, and of course, still trying to finish making my first video game as a developer. :)
Goodbye Hearthstone, goodbye Blizzard, see you later... in hell!!! ;)
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how do you do it?
you managed to make an "I'm quitting Hearthstone" thread without it immediately getting locked.
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I've been on the verge of quitting ever since Mean Streets. However, I found myself really enjoying this pre-rotation meta we had, for the first time in years (probably since Karazhan), mostly because the lower power level and the feeling that you could actually play the game and have an impact on it with your actions, rather than it being just a slot machine. Have to wait and see how the new meta will turn out to be.
@Sherman1986 Dude, how come?
I wasn't planning on going for a run today. But those cops came out of nowhere.
RNG is definitely getting on my nerves. I keep getting the idea of being less and less lucky every expansion... But I lack data to support this claim. What I do have is my own experince and a personnal bias that comes with it. Every expansion, I take a pen down and write down what I get, how many packs I opened and after how many packs... Sometimes I would get lucky but more often than not, I'm not lucky and it's getting worse... Luckiest I ever got was at frozen throne where I got 1 legendary every 12 packs. But since then the trend is getting a lot worse.
Last night when I opened 102 packs, I had little fun honestly... I was more furious than anything else. I got my 1st legendary in my 8th pack and then it took another whooping 38 packs before another one... Got another one few packs later and then 2 more sequences of drought... All in all I got 3 strectchs where I would get one legendary card in 32-38 packs... Overall, I got 5 legendaries in 102 packs or 1 legendary every 20,4 packs.
I wonder how bad it needs to get before I stop giving blizzard money. I still have fun playing the game... But the whole paying for rng crap thing is upsetting me a lot!
I gave up HS after the last expansion and switched to MTGA and I'm looking forward to "War Of The Spark" expension.
I gave up this game when MtG Arena came out. Good riddance I say.