I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
NOPE, and I would not dust them since wild is significantly cheaper than standard and you will regret if you dust them
Depends tho. I play only standard and after the previous rotation i dusted every card from the rotated sets and have been able to play almost every standard deck afterwards. The dust is 'uge!
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
Unless you want to keep them goldenn there's no reason to do this.
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
you'll lose more dust than you gain. The best bet is to do nothing (if you have normals), craft golden (if you have the dust but no copies of the cards)
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
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I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
Did you compare it to the amount you get for doing nothing?
If you have a non-legendary card and you just sit and do nothing:
You get 1600 dust from HoF and you have a non-golden card.
0+1600= 1600 dust
If you dust the original then craft a golden before HoF:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 = 400 dust
So you gain 400 dust and a golden card.
Thus in the end, doing nothing gives you 1200 more dust than crafting a golden card and keeping it. You've effectively lost 1200 dust in order to upgrade the card to golden rather than keeping it non-golden.
If you dust EVERYTHING though.. you gain nothing.
Doing nothing then dusting the original:
You get 1600 dust from HoF then 400 for dusting.
1600 + 400= 2000 dust
Crafting the golden, dusting the original, getting the HoF dust for the golden, then dusting hte golden:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF and 1600 for dusting the golden
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 +1600 = 2000 dust
Basically if you already own the original you CANNOT gain a profit from any of this. Either you get the exact amount you would've gotten doing nothing if you dust everything in the end, or you end up losing 1200 dust if you keep the golden.
If you guys are going "OMG what should I do" here's what you do:
For the common cards (Naturalize and the Cat) craft goldens until you own two of them, NO MATTER WHAT. After HoF happens, dust as you desire.
(you get 10 extra dust per card for doing it if you owned the original card, thank to how odd common values for goldens go)
For non-commons:
If you don't own the card, craft a golden one, wait for the HoF, then dust the goldens.
If you DO own the card, do nothing.
Math inside:
I already posted above why crafting a golden version of a card you own doesn't help you if it's not common. But, say, you don't own Genn.
If you do nothing. You get nothing
0
If you craft a golden Genn then dust it:
You spend 3200 to craft Genn, then gain 3200 dust from HoF. Then dust Genn for 1600 dust.
0 - 3200 + 3200 + 1600 = 1600 dust
You gain 1600 dust for every legendary you treat this way. That's 1600 dust MORE than you would have if you did nothing.
This goes for Epics and Rares as well. Thus if you only own one Stag then craft one golden, wiat for HoF, then dust the golden.
Note that if you decide to keep the golden card, you gain nothing, lose nothing, and you now have a fancy golden card for Wild. So feel fre to keep anything you want to keep. You can even keep it, then dust it later when you get bored.
Ok now commons. As you can guess, if you don't own the common card then the above still applies. But what if you DO own a common card:
If you do nothing, you gain 40 dust for HoFing the original
40
If you craft a golden common, then dust it, you spent 400 to craft the card, gain 400 for HoFing it, then gain 50 dusting the golden
0 - 400 +400 +50
thus 50. Which is 10 more than doing nothing.
Thus for commons, always have 2 goldens on hand when HoF comes, even if you have 2 non-goldens. Again this is the only rarity that does this.
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
Did you compare it to the amount you get for doing nothing?
If you have a non-legendary card and you just sit and do nothing:
You get 1600 dust from HoF and you have a non-golden card.
0+1600= 1600 dust
If you dust the original then craft a golden before HoF:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 = 400 dust
So you gain 400 dust and a golden card.
Thus in the end, doing nothing gives you 1200 more dust than crafting a golden card and keeping it. You've effectively lost 1200 dust in order to upgrade the card to golden rather than keeping it non-golden.
If you dust EVERYTHING though.. you gain nothing.
Doing nothing then dusting the original:
You get 1600 dust from HoF then 400 for dusting.
1600 + 400= 2000 dust
Crafting the golden, dusting the original, getting the HoF dust for the golden, then dusting hte golden:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF and 1600 for dusting the golden
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 +1600 = 2000 dust
Basically if you already own the original you CANNOT gain a profit from any of this. Either you get the exact amount you would've gotten doing nothing if you dust everything in the end, or you end up losing 1200 dust if you keep the golden.
If you guys are going "OMG what should I do" here's what you do:
For the common cards (Naturalize and the Cat) craft goldens until you own two of them, NO MATTER WHAT. After HoF happens, dust as you desire.
(you get 10 extra dust per card for doing it if you owned the original card, thank to how odd common values for goldens go)
For non-commons:
If you don't own the card, craft a golden one, wait for the HoF, then dust the goldens.
If you DO own the card, do nothing.
Math inside:
I already posted above why crafting a golden version of a card you own doesn't help you if it's not common. But, say, you don't own Genn.
If you do nothing. You get nothing
0
If you craft a golden Genn then dust it:
You spend 3200 to craft Genn, then gain 3200 dust from HoF. Then dust Genn for 1600 dust.
0 - 3200 + 3200 + 1600 = 1600 dust
You gain 1600 dust for every legendary you treat this way. That's 1600 dust MORE than you would have if you did nothing.
This goes for Epics and Rares as well. Thus if you only own one Stag then craft one golden, wiat for HoF, then dust the golden.
Note that if you decide to keep the golden card, you gain nothing, lose nothing, and you now have a fancy golden card for Wild. So feel fre to keep anything you want to keep. You can even keep it, then dust it later when you get bored.
Ok now commons. As you can guess, if you don't own the common card then the above still applies. But what if you DO own a common card:
If you do nothing, you gain 40 dust for HoFing the original
40
If you craft a golden common, then dust it, you spent 400 to craft the card, gain 400 for HoFing it, then gain 50 dusting the golden
0 - 400 +400 +50
thus 50. Which is 10 more than doing nothing.
Thus for commons, always have 2 goldens on hand when HoF comes, even if you have 2 non-goldens. Again this is the only rarity that does this.
Oh, I know it isn't the thing to do to get the most dust, I was just just saying that he was technically right. You gain less but you get the golden card "for free". Good for those who like gold cards
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
Right, you just have to decide if you want to upgrade regular copies (for an opportunity cost of 1200 dust) OR if you like to gain more dust. And if you don't own regular copies, just craft golden ones (in case there's enough dust available) for free. I fail to see how someone doesn't understand such simple logic.
I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
So, you failed math then?
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
Did you compare it to the amount you get for doing nothing?
If you have a non-legendary card and you just sit and do nothing:
You get 1600 dust from HoF and you have a non-golden card.
0+1600= 1600 dust
If you dust the original then craft a golden before HoF:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 = 400 dust
So you gain 400 dust and a golden card.
Thus in the end, doing nothing gives you 1200 more dust than crafting a golden card and keeping it. You've effectively lost 1200 dust in order to upgrade the card to golden rather than keeping it non-golden.
If you dust EVERYTHING though.. you gain nothing.
Doing nothing then dusting the original:
You get 1600 dust from HoF then 400 for dusting.
1600 + 400= 2000 dust
Crafting the golden, dusting the original, getting the HoF dust for the golden, then dusting hte golden:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF and 1600 for dusting the golden
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 +1600 = 2000 dust
Basically if you already own the original you CANNOT gain a profit from any of this. Either you get the exact amount you would've gotten doing nothing if you dust everything in the end, or you end up losing 1200 dust if you keep the golden.
If you guys are going "OMG what should I do" here's what you do:
For the common cards (Naturalize and the Cat) craft goldens until you own two of them, NO MATTER WHAT. After HoF happens, dust as you desire.
(you get 10 extra dust per card for doing it if you owned the original card, thank to how odd common values for goldens go)
For non-commons:
If you don't own the card, craft a golden one, wait for the HoF, then dust the goldens.
If you DO own the card, do nothing.
Math inside:
I already posted above why crafting a golden version of a card you own doesn't help you if it's not common. But, say, you don't own Genn.
If you do nothing. You get nothing
0
If you craft a golden Genn then dust it:
You spend 3200 to craft Genn, then gain 3200 dust from HoF. Then dust Genn for 1600 dust.
0 - 3200 + 3200 + 1600 = 1600 dust
You gain 1600 dust for every legendary you treat this way. That's 1600 dust MORE than you would have if you did nothing.
This goes for Epics and Rares as well. Thus if you only own one Stag then craft one golden, wiat for HoF, then dust the golden.
Note that if you decide to keep the golden card, you gain nothing, lose nothing, and you now have a fancy golden card for Wild. So feel fre to keep anything you want to keep. You can even keep it, then dust it later when you get bored.
Ok now commons. As you can guess, if you don't own the common card then the above still applies. But what if you DO own a common card:
If you do nothing, you gain 40 dust for HoFing the original
40
If you craft a golden common, then dust it, you spent 400 to craft the card, gain 400 for HoFing it, then gain 50 dusting the golden
0 - 400 +400 +50
thus 50. Which is 10 more than doing nothing.
Thus for commons, always have 2 goldens on hand when HoF comes, even if you have 2 non-goldens. Again this is the only rarity that does this.
Oh, I know it isn't the thing to do to get the most dust, I was just just saying that he was technically right. You gain less but you get the golden card "for free". Good for those who like gold cards
OHH.
Yeah if your goal is to get golden cards then this works out for you as you are effectively getting a 'discount' on the thing.
Do i get full dust refund from all cards that rotated out? example The Lich King or Zola the Gorgon
No. Only the ones in HOF, so Baku, Genn, the odd/even cards from Witchwood and 3 cards from classic.
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No sorry. Only for the cards going to HOF.
NOPE, and I would not dust them since wild is significantly cheaper than standard and you will regret if you dust them
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I will be dusting these HoF cards immediately and crafting all the golden versions, since we get full dust refund these will be free! plus you still have the dust of the cards you disenchanted now
Depends tho. I play only standard and after the previous rotation i dusted every card from the rotated sets and have been able to play almost every standard deck afterwards. The dust is 'uge!
Unless you want to keep them goldenn there's no reason to do this.
Ooooh, that made me laugh :-)
Wild would be the tumbleweediest place in Webland if they did :-p
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you'll lose more dust than you gain. The best bet is to do nothing (if you have normals), craft golden (if you have the dust but no copies of the cards)
So, you failed math then?
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
How so? Disenchant for full value now (say +400 if its a legendary), then make in gold (-3200), then get full dust from HoF card in golden (+3200). This nets you the dust from the card you originally disenchant now, like he said
It would be awfully nice getting that much dust from all the previous expacs that are rotating out tho.
Did you compare it to the amount you get for doing nothing?
If you have a non-legendary card and you just sit and do nothing:
You get 1600 dust from HoF and you have a non-golden card.
0+1600= 1600 dust
If you dust the original then craft a golden before HoF:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 = 400 dust
So you gain 400 dust and a golden card.
Thus in the end, doing nothing gives you 1200 more dust than crafting a golden card and keeping it. You've effectively lost 1200 dust in order to upgrade the card to golden rather than keeping it non-golden.
If you dust EVERYTHING though.. you gain nothing.
Doing nothing then dusting the original:
You get 1600 dust from HoF then 400 for dusting.
1600 + 400= 2000 dust
Crafting the golden, dusting the original, getting the HoF dust for the golden, then dusting hte golden:
You get 400 dust for the original, then lose 3200 in crafting the golden, then gain 3200 for HoF and 1600 for dusting the golden
So 400 - 3200 + 3200 +1600 = 2000 dust
Basically if you already own the original you CANNOT gain a profit from any of this. Either you get the exact amount you would've gotten doing nothing if you dust everything in the end, or you end up losing 1200 dust if you keep the golden.
If you guys are going "OMG what should I do" here's what you do:
For the common cards (Naturalize and the Cat) craft goldens until you own two of them, NO MATTER WHAT. After HoF happens, dust as you desire.
(you get 10 extra dust per card for doing it if you owned the original card, thank to how odd common values for goldens go)
For non-commons:
If you don't own the card, craft a golden one, wait for the HoF, then dust the goldens.
If you DO own the card, do nothing.
Math inside:
I already posted above why crafting a golden version of a card you own doesn't help you if it's not common. But, say, you don't own Genn.
If you do nothing. You get nothing
0
If you craft a golden Genn then dust it:
You spend 3200 to craft Genn, then gain 3200 dust from HoF. Then dust Genn for 1600 dust.
0 - 3200 + 3200 + 1600 = 1600 dust
You gain 1600 dust for every legendary you treat this way. That's 1600 dust MORE than you would have if you did nothing.
This goes for Epics and Rares as well. Thus if you only own one Stag then craft one golden, wiat for HoF, then dust the golden.
Note that if you decide to keep the golden card, you gain nothing, lose nothing, and you now have a fancy golden card for Wild. So feel fre to keep anything you want to keep. You can even keep it, then dust it later when you get bored.
Ok now commons. As you can guess, if you don't own the common card then the above still applies. But what if you DO own a common card:
If you do nothing, you gain 40 dust for HoFing the original
40
If you craft a golden common, then dust it, you spent 400 to craft the card, gain 400 for HoFing it, then gain 50 dusting the golden
0 - 400 +400 +50
thus 50. Which is 10 more than doing nothing.
Thus for commons, always have 2 goldens on hand when HoF comes, even if you have 2 non-goldens. Again this is the only rarity that does this.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Oh, I know it isn't the thing to do to get the most dust, I was just just saying that he was technically right. You gain less but you get the golden card "for free". Good for those who like gold cards
Right, you just have to decide if you want to upgrade regular copies (for an opportunity cost of 1200 dust) OR if you like to gain more dust. And if you don't own regular copies, just craft golden ones (in case there's enough dust available) for free. I fail to see how someone doesn't understand such simple logic.
OHH.
Yeah if your goal is to get golden cards then this works out for you as you are effectively getting a 'discount' on the thing.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
as people say, no, you only get the full dust refund for HoF cards