I was playing odd quest Warrior in wild against a fast deck,can't quite remember the exact One,i Just know It was really aggressive, After some struggling I finally managed to stabilize,i got the Quest completed,i had a huge board of taunts and a lot of armor.
I figured there was no realistic way I could lose from there so,instead of going sulfuras and attacking the face I kept armoring up and only trading his Minions away
Now,since I Always tried to end the turn as fast as possibile (not that there was much to do honestly) ,he knew i had quest in hand and he knew i didn't dc/afk or anything my question Is: Is what i did really considered bm? (My Plan was to win through fatigue,he conceded After a few turns)
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I mean it is a waste of time so it kinda is bm, but as he should just concede anyways (if it was really unwinnable) you were both bm'ing and to not concede in hopeless games is the worse bm imho.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
I mean it is a waste of time so it kinda is bm, but as he should just concede anyways (if it was really unwinnable) you were both bm'ing and to not concede in hopeless games is the worse bm imho.
I think not conceding is never BM... I usually never concede, you can still get lucky in hopeless situations, your opponent can still misplay or something... And if you don't co cede, you actually can give the joy to your opponent, by letting him complete you. I always hated when I couldn't kill my opponent, because they conceded, right before i hit they're face.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
BM basically means being a bad sport when you have the upper hand, like messing with your opponent just to make them feel worse, tauting them, gloating about your good performance, etc. I'd say that stretching a game out just to mess with your opponent falls in line with that.
I mean it is a waste of time so it kinda is bm, but as he should just concede anyways (if it was really unwinnable) you were both bm'ing and to not concede in hopeless games is the worse bm imho.
I think not conceding is never BM... I usually never concede, you can still get lucky in hopeless situations, your opponent can still misplay or something... And if you don't co cede, you actually can give the joy to your opponent, by letting him complete you. I always hated when I couldn't kill my opponent, because they conceded, right before i hit they're face.
That's interesting. I always thought people are just fishing for disconnects or something. I always feel like it is an offense to not concede when there is lethal on board, like telling your opponent how stupid he might be :D
I mean it is a waste of time so it kinda is bm, but as he should just concede anyways (if it was really unwinnable) you were both bm'ing and to not concede in hopeless games is the worse bm imho.
Gotta disagree with you there. Playing the game your way (as in following a certain strategy) is not bm, it's just playing the game, and continuing to play even if you have (almost) no chance of winning is also not bm, it's just playing the game. Bm is messing with your opponent even if it has no effect on the outcome of the game, like emote spamming, pretending you don't have lethal and then killing your opponent when your turn is almost finished, etc.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
BM basically means being a bad sport when you have the upper hand, like messing with your opponent just to make them feel worse, tauting them, gloating about your good performance, etc. I'd say that stretching a game out just to mess with your opponent falls in line with that.
This. ^^
For example, I just played the Tavern Brawl this morning. I had lethal in my hand, but nothing on the board (so my opponent didn't know I had it). Instead, my opponent sat there and roped me, not doing anything, not even attacking with his minions. There was seemingly no reason. No BMing prior to this or anything (from either side). Then, before the rope ran out, he dropped King Krush on the board and killed me.
In a Tavern Brawl. I mean, who BMs in a Tavern Brawl?! LOL!
it's just a sign of a bad player and bad sportsmanship. Usually this is something done by a person who doesn't normally win so. You just feel sorry for the guy and move on.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
BM basically means being a bad sport when you have the upper hand, like messing with your opponent just to make them feel worse, tauting them, gloating about your good performance, etc. I'd say that stretching a game out just to mess with your opponent falls in line with that.
Well it's not like i was wasting his time: i had 4/5 taunts on the board,around 10 health,around 20 armor and an almost full hand while he had anche empty board,empty hand (1/2 cards), 28 health and he was way deeper in fatigue as an aggressive (rogue, i Just remembered) deck i's Say that's gg,i Just wanted to finish him through fatigue rather than ragnarosing him to death (or attacking with my board) there was no way he would come back.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
BM basically means being a bad sport when you have the upper hand, like messing with your opponent just to make them feel worse, tauting them, gloating about your good performance, etc. I'd say that stretching a game out just to mess with your opponent falls in line with that.
Well it's not like i was wasting his time: i had 4/5 taunts on the board,around 10 health,around 20 armor and an almost full hand while he had anche empty board,empty hand (1/2 cards), 28 health and he was way deeper in fatigue as an aggressive (rogue, i Just remembered) deck i's Say that's gg,i Just wanted to finish him through fatigue rather than ragnarosing him to death (or attacking with my board) there was no way he would come back.
Never emoted (if you don't count a mutual greetings at the very start) nor roped nor messaged him
I can't say anything new that hasn't been said, so I'll repeat it in short form.
You played a conservative control game which hedged the odds in your favor in case you ran into some weird clear. Losing Armor Up for your Ragnaros hero power and Sulfuras. That's not BM.
It's frustrating to be on the other side, but it's not BM.
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I have never seen Aggro vs Control ending when the Aggro reached 0 hp, besides tournament.
An Aggro vs Control matchup (and this is clearly the case, and both opponents were aware of this) can have two outcomes:
victory by Aggro,
concede by Aggro.
In both cases, action is responsibility of the Aggro player. This is inherent to the nature of both decks: Aggro strives to get initiative, Control decides to leave it as much as possible.
So, in that specific case, since 1. was not possible anymore at that point of the game, your opponent should have pushed 'concede' button.
It was not your responsibility to try and speed up the game, but his to concede, once he was sure he had no more steam.
Generally, keeping armoring up against aggro and not switching to sulfuras is not BM. What is BM though is having minions on the board on not attacking just to prolong the game. Sure, he could (and should) concede at this point, but doing nothing on your turn and only armoring up while you have 4/5 taunts that stay behind without reason is showing the opponent how helpless he is and what a big dick you have and are. That's something I'd consider BM.
Well he had the option to concede so he kind of BM himself really.
On that subject though I do like the early BM when they then proceed to lose the game. I had it recently in a wall priest mirror, I had 2 clerics on the board and he basically made me over draw nearly my entire deck with a well timed divine hymn. Totally my own doing but then the BM spam started with well played thank you etc over and over again. Unfortunately for him I had all the cards I needed in my hand and proceeded to otk him. So satisfying.
I was playing odd quest Warrior in wild against a fast deck,can't quite remember the exact One,i Just know It was really aggressive, After some struggling I finally managed to stabilize,i got the Quest completed,i had a huge board of taunts and a lot of armor.
I figured there was no realistic way I could lose from there so,instead of going sulfuras and attacking the face I kept armoring up and only trading his Minions away
Now,since I Always tried to end the turn as fast as possibile (not that there was much to do honestly) ,he knew i had quest in hand and he knew i didn't dc/afk or anything my question Is: Is what i did really considered bm? (My Plan was to win through fatigue,he conceded After a few turns)
It’s not BM, it’s a strategy to win. You could lose if you trade your armour gain to Sulfuras.
It's the intent that matters. There are occasions where your opponent has lethal on board but starts playing his entire hand, and while it might seem like BM to you, but he may just be going for a quest or levelling his current hero. If you did it just to mess with the guy, it's pretty much BM. But who wouldn't pass up such an opportunity?
I mean it is a waste of time so it kinda is bm, but as he should just concede anyways (if it was really unwinnable) you were both bm'ing and to not concede in hopeless games is the worse bm imho.
I did do It Just to mess with the guy,but still,considering the situation we were in,Can It really be considered BM?
I think not conceding is never BM... I usually never concede, you can still get lucky in hopeless situations, your opponent can still misplay or something... And if you don't co cede, you actually can give the joy to your opponent, by letting him complete you. I always hated when I couldn't kill my opponent, because they conceded, right before i hit they're face.
BM basically means being a bad sport when you have the upper hand, like messing with your opponent just to make them feel worse, tauting them, gloating about your good performance, etc. I'd say that stretching a game out just to mess with your opponent falls in line with that.
That's interesting. I always thought people are just fishing for disconnects or something. I always feel like it is an offense to not concede when there is lethal on board, like telling your opponent how stupid he might be :D
Gotta disagree with you there. Playing the game your way (as in following a certain strategy) is not bm, it's just playing the game, and continuing to play even if you have (almost) no chance of winning is also not bm, it's just playing the game. Bm is messing with your opponent even if it has no effect on the outcome of the game, like emote spamming, pretending you don't have lethal and then killing your opponent when your turn is almost finished, etc.
This. ^^
For example, I just played the Tavern Brawl this morning. I had lethal in my hand, but nothing on the board (so my opponent didn't know I had it). Instead, my opponent sat there and roped me, not doing anything, not even attacking with his minions.
There was seemingly no reason. No BMing prior to this or anything (from either side).
Then, before the rope ran out, he dropped King Krush on the board and killed me.
In a Tavern Brawl. I mean, who BMs in a Tavern Brawl?! LOL!
it's just a sign of a bad player and bad sportsmanship. Usually this is something done by a person who doesn't normally win so. You just feel sorry for the guy and move on.
Well it's not like i was wasting his time: i had 4/5 taunts on the board,around 10 health,around 20 armor and an almost full hand while he had anche empty board,empty hand (1/2 cards), 28 health and he was way deeper in fatigue as an aggressive (rogue, i Just remembered) deck i's Say that's gg,i Just wanted to finish him through fatigue rather than ragnarosing him to death (or attacking with my board) there was no way he would come back.
Never emoted (if you don't count a mutual greetings at the very start) nor roped nor messaged him
I can't say anything new that hasn't been said, so I'll repeat it in short form.
You played a conservative control game which hedged the odds in your favor in case you ran into some weird clear. Losing Armor Up for your Ragnaros hero power and Sulfuras. That's not BM.
It's frustrating to be on the other side, but it's not BM.
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
I call bm
I have never seen Aggro vs Control ending when the Aggro reached 0 hp, besides tournament.
An Aggro vs Control matchup (and this is clearly the case, and both opponents were aware of this) can have two outcomes:
In both cases, action is responsibility of the Aggro player. This is inherent to the nature of both decks: Aggro strives to get initiative, Control decides to leave it as much as possible.
So, in that specific case, since 1. was not possible anymore at that point of the game, your opponent should have pushed 'concede' button.
It was not your responsibility to try and speed up the game, but his to concede, once he was sure he had no more steam.
No BM in this case.
Generally, keeping armoring up against aggro and not switching to sulfuras is not BM. What is BM though is having minions on the board on not attacking just to prolong the game. Sure, he could (and should) concede at this point, but doing nothing on your turn and only armoring up while you have 4/5 taunts that stay behind without reason is showing the opponent how helpless he is and what a big dick you have and are. That's something I'd consider BM.
Playing quest Odd Warrior is BM itself.
If it was a strategy that deliberately lowered your chances to win, yeah, it's BM. If not, it's strategy.
Well he had the option to concede so he kind of BM himself really.
On that subject though I do like the early BM when they then proceed to lose the game. I had it recently in a wall priest mirror, I had 2 clerics on the board and he basically made me over draw nearly my entire deck with a well timed divine hymn. Totally my own doing but then the BM spam started with well played thank you etc over and over again. Unfortunately for him I had all the cards I needed in my hand and proceeded to otk him. So satisfying.
Dumb question time - what does BM stand for? Other than 'bowel movement'...