Ok after losing to 3 Hunters with Barnes into Y'shaarj on turn 4, in the row, I wondered once again why the hell would blizzard take so long to nerf the card. What? Shudderwock or Wild Growth were stronger or even more game breaking than Barnes? They basically destroyed Naga Sea Witch when it became too oppresive but nothing happen with Barnes. I know I'm not the only who absolutely hates the card so please Blizzard help us out.
Can you all please look up the latest “omg let’s nerf Barnes” thread from the day before or the day before that and post your rant there instead of making a new topic to whine about him every morning? Thank you, next
Shudderwock WIld Growth probably due to the impact on Standard. Naga was imo nerfed way too late, and allowed several classes to be disguisting (even tho i usually just saw WL and Hunter running the naga-giant "combo". I agree that barnes should be nerfed, this highroll on turn 4 is really crushing :D
Dollmaster Dorian is much weaker than Barnes, one of the controversial combos was barnes into Y'Shaarj, into Y'Shaarj in Spell Hunter. this won't happen with Dorian, because then it'll be in your hand. also, you have to draw cards for it too work.
You can't nerf everything because it can highroll.
Should N'Zoth be nerfed for having highroll potential in the late game when rezzing better deathrattle targets?
Should Gul'Dan be nerfed for the same reason (just demon restricted)?
^ Both of the above really cripple some classes that lack actual board clears and if they can't by some miracle clear the board or instantly melt the face then they can lose to.
Hell, should we nerf the mana system because drawing on curve is draw rng highrolling?
Just play something that beats Big Priest already. This is such a tired topic. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DECK OR PLAYSTYLE THAT BEATS EVERYTHING!
Hi, IgnotusNd I got some for you: 1. Blizzard WILL NOT nerf Barnes. 2. Get used to it. 3. Use salty thread, that is why the one exists. 4. Give me one penny for every 'nerf Barnes' thread so I can get to you and say it to you personally,in your face: Blizzard WILL NOT nerf Barnes. 5. Thanks.
You can't nerf everything because it can highroll.
Should N'Zoth be nerfed for having highroll potential in the late game when rezzing better deathrattle targets?
Should Gul'Dan be nerfed for the same reason (just demon restricted)?
^ Both of the above really cripple some classes that lack actual board clears and if they can't by some miracle clear the board or instantly melt the face then they can lose to.
Hell, should we nerf the mana system because drawing on curve is draw rng highrolling?
Just play something that beats Big Priest already. This is such a tired topic. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DECK OR PLAYSTYLE THAT BEATS EVERYTHING!
To be fair, N'Zoth and Guldan come much later in the game then Barnes, which gives the opponent more resources to respond. Getting 14/15 worth of stats on turn 4 with Barnes is almost like getting a bunch of giants with Naga on turn 5. Blizz nerfed naga because it provided too much stats too early, like barnes does.
Ok after losing to 3 Hunters with Barnes into Y'shaarj on turn 4, in the row, I wondered once again why the hell would blizzard take so long to nerf the card. What? Shudderwock or Wild Growth were stronger or even more game breaking than Barnes? They basically destroyed Naga Sea Witch when it became too oppresive but nothing happen with Barnes. I know I'm not the only who absolutely hates the card so please Blizzard help us out.
Blozzard doesnt care about wild neither do the majority of the players. Wild is for scrubs
You can't nerf everything because it can highroll.
Should N'Zoth be nerfed for having highroll potential in the late game when rezzing better deathrattle targets?
Should Gul'Dan be nerfed for the same reason (just demon restricted)?
^ Both of the above really cripple some classes that lack actual board clears and if they can't by some miracle clear the board or instantly melt the face then they can lose to.
Hell, should we nerf the mana system because drawing on curve is draw rng highrolling?
Just play something that beats Big Priest already. This is such a tired topic. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DECK OR PLAYSTYLE THAT BEATS EVERYTHING!
To be fair, N'Zoth and Guldan come much later in the game then Barnes, which gives the opponent more resources to respond. Getting 14/15 worth of stats on turn 4 with Barnes is almost like getting a bunch of giants with Naga on turn 5. Blizz nerfed naga because it provided too much stats too early, like barnes does.
NSW and Barnes aren't really comparable most of the time though. At its best highroll Big Priest could at worst Barnes on 3 with coin, hit Y'Sharjj, and pull another Y'Sharjj. So 14/15 worth spread out over 3 bodies (mostly just one body tbh). With Giant Hunter you could easily 32/32 worth of stats (or more) spread out over 4+ bodies by turn 5 (instantly threatening lethal next turn). With Big Priest you can potentially answer the Barnes minion with Sap. With Giants it was Equality or bust at 5 or less mana (back before Mass Hysteria).
Because beside some unlucky situations, Barnes Hunter AND Big Priest is FAR FROM BEING OVERPOWERED RIGHT NOW. Big Priest is Tier 2 right now and Barnes Hunter not even sure if it is even Tier 2. Right now there are decks out there that are far stronger than these 2.
Barnes needs to be adressed in the future, but right now there are far more important things in wild: for example Odd Rogue and Even Shaman (especially shaman) with a far too high winrate. Pirate Rogue maybe too, but here you can tech against it. Even Shaman already has a winrate around 70-72%.
So no, just because you don't like barnes it does not need to be adressed right now.
Ok after losing to 3 Hunters with Barnes into Y'shaarj on turn 4, in the row, I wondered once again why the hell would blizzard take so long to nerf the card. What? Shudderwock or Wild Growth were stronger or even more game breaking than Barnes? They basically destroyed Naga Sea Witch when it became too oppresive but nothing happen with Barnes. I know I'm not the only who absolutely hates the card so please Blizzard help us out.
Suddenly seeing a lot of anti-Barnes threads lately, so I'm guessing that he is appearing a lot in wild these days? Maybe he has been since rotation, but there just seems to be a lot more threads about him recently. I am aware of how long Big Priest has been a thing. :-)
In any case, you mention a request for nerfing to the card. What sort of nerf did you have in mind? What would be suitable do you think? Without a suggestion that you think would make the card better, there's not a lot for us to discuss :-)
I think Barnes itself is not the problem but the priest resurrect abilities are. If something was to be nerfed I would start with the 2 mana and 4 mana resurrect spells.
Out of big priest Barnes allows for a lot of fun but not game breakingly OP interactions.
OP's complain was about Barnes pulling out Y'saarj in a hunter deck. I agree with you that priest's resurrection abilities are a problem also though. ;-)
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Ok after losing to 3 Hunters with Barnes into Y'shaarj on turn 4, in the row, I wondered once again why the hell would blizzard take so long to nerf the card. What? Shudderwock or Wild Growth were stronger or even more game breaking than Barnes? They basically destroyed Naga Sea Witch when it became too oppresive but nothing happen with Barnes. I know I'm not the only who absolutely hates the card so please Blizzard help us out.
Aaaand reported for another duplicate barnes salt thread
Can you all please look up the latest “omg let’s nerf Barnes” thread from the day before or the day before that and post your rant there instead of making a new topic to whine about him every morning? Thank you, next
Shudderwock WIld Growth probably due to the impact on Standard. Naga was imo nerfed way too late, and allowed several classes to be disguisting (even tho i usually just saw WL and Hunter running the naga-giant "combo". I agree that barnes should be nerfed, this highroll on turn 4 is really crushing :D
I thought they nerfed the hell out of him.
Dollmaster Dorian
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Dollmaster Dorian is much weaker than Barnes, one of the controversial combos was barnes into Y'Shaarj, into Y'Shaarj in Spell Hunter. this won't happen with Dorian, because then it'll be in your hand. also, you have to draw cards for it too work.
Reported. Stop spamming the forum with useless duplicated threads that have been opened 10000 times before.
You can't nerf everything because it can highroll.
Should N'Zoth be nerfed for having highroll potential in the late game when rezzing better deathrattle targets?
Should Gul'Dan be nerfed for the same reason (just demon restricted)?
^ Both of the above really cripple some classes that lack actual board clears and if they can't by some miracle clear the board or instantly melt the face then they can lose to.
Hell, should we nerf the mana system because drawing on curve is draw rng highrolling?
Just play something that beats Big Priest already. This is such a tired topic. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DECK OR PLAYSTYLE THAT BEATS EVERYTHING!
We have salt thread! Also, we have 100000 'pls nerf barns' threads so there was no need for one more...
Hi, IgnotusNd I got some for you:
1. Blizzard WILL NOT nerf Barnes.
2. Get used to it.
3. Use salty thread, that is why the one exists.
4. Give me one penny for every 'nerf Barnes' thread so I can get to you and say it to you personally,in your face: Blizzard WILL NOT nerf Barnes.
5. Thanks.
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To be fair, N'Zoth and Guldan come much later in the game then Barnes, which gives the opponent more resources to respond. Getting 14/15 worth of stats on turn 4 with Barnes is almost like getting a bunch of giants with Naga on turn 5. Blizz nerfed naga because it provided too much stats too early, like barnes does.
Blozzard doesnt care about wild neither do the majority of the players. Wild is for scrubs
NSW and Barnes aren't really comparable most of the time though. At its best highroll Big Priest could at worst Barnes on 3 with coin, hit Y'Sharjj, and pull another Y'Sharjj. So 14/15 worth spread out over 3 bodies (mostly just one body tbh). With Giant Hunter you could easily 32/32 worth of stats (or more) spread out over 4+ bodies by turn 5 (instantly threatening lethal next turn). With Big Priest you can potentially answer the Barnes minion with Sap. With Giants it was Equality or bust at 5 or less mana (back before Mass Hysteria).
Can we close this Thread Already?
@ OP
Because beside some unlucky situations, Barnes Hunter AND Big Priest is FAR FROM BEING OVERPOWERED RIGHT NOW. Big Priest is Tier 2 right now and Barnes Hunter not even sure if it is even Tier 2. Right now there are decks out there that are far stronger than these 2.
Barnes needs to be adressed in the future, but right now there are far more important things in wild: for example Odd Rogue and Even Shaman (especially shaman) with a far too high winrate. Pirate Rogue maybe too, but here you can tech against it. Even Shaman already has a winrate around 70-72%.
So no, just because you don't like barnes it does not need to be adressed right now.
I honestly really miss Giants Hunter! Was fun while it lasted.
Add me up if you're looking for someone to play friendly matches with! I play on EU. LuckyScrub#2745
Suddenly seeing a lot of anti-Barnes threads lately, so I'm guessing that he is appearing a lot in wild these days?
Maybe he has been since rotation, but there just seems to be a lot more threads about him recently. I am aware of how long Big Priest has been a thing. :-)
In any case, you mention a request for nerfing to the card. What sort of nerf did you have in mind?
What would be suitable do you think?
Without a suggestion that you think would make the card better, there's not a lot for us to discuss :-)
I think Barnes itself is not the problem but the priest resurrect abilities are. If something was to be nerfed I would start with the 2 mana and 4 mana resurrect spells.
Out of big priest Barnes allows for a lot of fun but not game breakingly OP interactions.
OP's complain was about Barnes pulling out Y'saarj in a hunter deck.
I agree with you that priest's resurrection abilities are a problem also though. ;-)