I love how much people hate Kingsbane. I think I enjoy how much people hate it more than I enjoy playing it. I guess it's disheartening playing a control deck and having nothing on the board to control.
Yeah, f.... those guys who wanna play minions and have an interactive game, that’s so 2k14 , right?....
I wonder how long it takes for a Brian Kibler complaining video, following by exactly the suggested nerfs.
At least right now, I don't know if there will be nerfs. The deck is completely gone in standard after 1 set. Shudderwock, Togwaggle, and Jaina are legitimate checks in the control archetype if not full counters. There are niche other ways to play around it as well, even though they aren't very good (Gluttenous Ooze/Gnomeferatu). Aggro obviously does aggro things to it.
Unless the deck becomes oppressive in the way that Quest Rogue was, I imagine they will be fine with Kingsbane being a very good deck for just 4 months. It's going to have to start being about 50/50 against aggro before a nerf is contemplated, I think.
But, as usual, the culprits here are Preparation and Vanish.
Funny how people suggest ways to beat kingsbane, like play weapon destruction, freeze effects or aggro decks. That may work against the 'old' control kingsbane decks, but the aggro pirate version (wild) is not a one-trick pony. Ships cannon and sharkfin fan keep aggro decks under control while applying enough pressure to control and combo decks for kingsbane to finish them off somewhere between turn 7 and 10. This version of the deck has no bad machups.
Wow, I'm starting to really hate playing this game.
We all know that Casual is full of netdeckers trying to farm gold, whatever.
But... when you're hoping to have at least a bit of fun with your off meta deck and keep facing this nonsense braindead Kingsbane deck.. it's just too much.
You literally can't do anything when you're not aggro or OTK.
If Kingsbane stays Meta this expansion, and i guess it will, me and I guess some other players will have a break from this game until the rotation in April.
PS: Blizzard if you don't nerf Kingsbane, nerf supporting cards like Vanish (which is totally broken in this deck).
PSS: I know Blizzard doesn't give a flying f*ck what a noname like me is posting in this forum. :P
The whole game is broken and has been broken for many months before that. Bli$$ard should consider introducing a vanilla ranked system and leave the ranked and wild games to streamers and little people who use the words salt and whining with ease.
If you don't already know, Kingsbane beats up higher curved midrange decks easily too. You have to play a really aggressive midrange deck to even have a chance against them. SOOO, it's not only control players that are getting victimized by this deck. So think before you type.
Don't even reply to that dude, he has a god complex, I've seen his posts in other threads, delusional as shit
Nonstop facing Shudderwock, Kingsbane and Aggro decks in Casual (rank 4, reached Legend last month and didn't bother to play ranked so far). I just wanna have fun with my Academic Rogue deck ._.
As much as I hate Kingsbane decks with a passion, I can understand where people are coming from when they defend it. In no way am I bashing people for defending Kingsbane decks, all I'm stating is the fact that the deck (or card that is) has been an annoyance for a while now and Blizzard has done nothing about it, which is what annoys me.
I know people are gonna come at me and say that I'm bashing Kingsbane for no reason and I can see that argument, but at the same time, I've seen Kingsbane in both formats, and in both formats, it's an auto concede for me specifically once they get lifesteal and some other weapon buffs. It's an absolute mess for me and I just can't grasp onto playing against Kingsbane much longer.
sure just erase F2P players cause now their cards are gone after 6 months sure spend hundreds of bucks for cards 4 times instead of 3 times a year blizzard would love that. they have to have balance patches everytime after expansion drops imo otherwise your making it worse but blizzard can´t do that because people would get free dust and we can´t have that buy more packs who wants to play with poor people anyways get a job you lazy bums!
First, I stated they need to adjust expansion sizes. You don't want the same size they have now and add one a year, but make them all with lower card count.
Double-Edged Sword. On one hand, if you rotate every 6 months, your cards leave Standard faster. On the other hand, if you only play Standard, you get Dust twice a year from Rotations, you have two less expansions you need to collect cards for, which is a big deal for new players, having to collect cards for up to 6 Expansions. This way you would only collect up to 4 Expansions, and each expansion would be smaller amounts of cards.
As much as I hate Kingsbane decks with a passion, I can understand where people are coming from when they defend it. In no way am I bashing people for defending Kingsbane decks, all I'm stating is the fact that the deck (or card that is) has been an annoyance for a while now and Blizzard has done nothing about it, which is what annoys me.
I know people are gonna come at me and say that I'm bashing Kingsbane for no reason and I can see that argument, but at the same time, I've seen Kingsbane in both formats, and in both formats, it's an auto concede for me specifically once they get lifesteal and some other weapon buffs. It's an absolute mess for me and I just can't grasp onto playing against Kingsbane much longer.
This is the issue people seem to not understand.
Something being an annoyance to X part of the community is NOT a reason for Blizzard to make changes. By that logic, they would essentially change almost every single powerful thing in the game, because there is always X part of the community that it annoys.
They should make changes when there is a balance problem. That involves something whole power level is way higher compared to the rest, which typically leads it to easily overcome it's disadvantages.
For example, when an Aggro deck is so absurdly good, Aggro Shaman & Undertake Hunter, back in the day, which were by default supposed to be weak to Control, yet were able to constantly and consistently overcome that weakness by sheer power level.
Kingsbane is supposed to be weak to Aggro, not Control. The fact that is constantly beats Control is not a Balance Issue, it is just how it is supposed to work. If however, they constantly and consistently overcame Aggro, by sheer power lever, then we would have a problem.
Also. having just lost to a kingbane rogue that had a fairly ordinary hand when I had prince turn two, it just seems crazy that it can often beat agro decks and also beats nearly 100% of control and midrange decks
Also. having just lost to a kingbane rogue that had a fairly ordinary hand when I had prince turn two, it just seems crazy that it can often beat agro decks and also beats nearly 100% of control and midrange decks
I won't cry when high rolling Prince 2 decks rotate out. Not one bit.
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Just play wild evenlock, those tempo lists that eschew the DK and add more giants and 2x Faceless Shambler eat king's bane alive
I hate playing against Miracle Warrior.
Miracle Warrior? What did I miss?!
Please elaborate, I'm kinda curious. :D
Hey. =)
I think he was being sarcastic
Well, that's sad. When reading his comment I thought it would be kinda cool to have this archetype.
Hey. =)
Yeah, f.... those guys who wanna play minions and have an interactive game, that’s so 2k14 , right?....
I wonder how long it takes for a Brian Kibler complaining video, following by exactly the suggested nerfs.
At least right now, I don't know if there will be nerfs. The deck is completely gone in standard after 1 set. Shudderwock, Togwaggle, and Jaina are legitimate checks in the control archetype if not full counters. There are niche other ways to play around it as well, even though they aren't very good (Gluttenous Ooze/Gnomeferatu). Aggro obviously does aggro things to it.
Unless the deck becomes oppressive in the way that Quest Rogue was, I imagine they will be fine with Kingsbane being a very good deck for just 4 months. It's going to have to start being about 50/50 against aggro before a nerf is contemplated, I think.
But, as usual, the culprits here are Preparation and Vanish.
use glacial shards its to difficult?
I was playing shudderwock today as a counter to kingsbane in this meta. He vanished grumble and one card was milled.. Shudderwock.
But that's wild, and no one cares XD
(obviously kidding, don't jump all over me)
Wow, I'm starting to really hate playing this game.
We all know that Casual is full of netdeckers trying to farm gold, whatever.
But... when you're hoping to have at least a bit of fun with your off meta deck and keep facing this nonsense braindead Kingsbane deck.. it's just too much.
You literally can't do anything when you're not aggro or OTK.
If Kingsbane stays Meta this expansion, and i guess it will, me and I guess some other players will have a break from this game until the rotation in April.
PS: Blizzard if you don't nerf Kingsbane, nerf supporting cards like Vanish (which is totally broken in this deck).
PSS: I know Blizzard doesn't give a flying f*ck what a noname like me is posting in this forum. :P
Hey. =)
The whole game is broken and has been broken for many months before that. Bli$$ard should consider introducing a vanilla ranked system and leave the ranked and wild games to streamers and little people who use the words salt and whining with ease.
Thank you and good night
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Don't even reply to that dude, he has a god complex, I've seen his posts in other threads, delusional as shit
Go play chess
Just play 1000 armor shaman. The rogue can't do anything to kill you
Nonstop facing Shudderwock, Kingsbane and Aggro decks in Casual (rank 4, reached Legend last month and didn't bother to play ranked so far). I just wanna have fun with my Academic Rogue deck ._.
Hey. =)
As much as I hate Kingsbane decks with a passion, I can understand where people are coming from when they defend it. In no way am I bashing people for defending Kingsbane decks, all I'm stating is the fact that the deck (or card that is) has been an annoyance for a while now and Blizzard has done nothing about it, which is what annoys me.
I know people are gonna come at me and say that I'm bashing Kingsbane for no reason and I can see that argument, but at the same time, I've seen Kingsbane in both formats, and in both formats, it's an auto concede for me specifically once they get lifesteal and some other weapon buffs. It's an absolute mess for me and I just can't grasp onto playing against Kingsbane much longer.
this is the response i was looking for. +1
Also. having just lost to a kingbane rogue that had a fairly ordinary hand when I had prince turn two, it just seems crazy that it can often beat agro decks and also beats nearly 100% of control and midrange decks
I won't cry when high rolling Prince 2 decks rotate out. Not one bit.