I'm a new F2P player following advices I found on this forum (https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/211142-mistakes-and-pitfalls-for-new-players-and-advice) on the quest of building up my collection. One piece of advice that I commonly see online is that one should start with getting enough packs from every expansion to get all guaranteed legendaries. I followed that idea on all expansions except Journey to Un'Goro and Knights of the Frozen Throne. I know that those two will rotate out of standard in April, so I'm wondering if it's worth spending my hard earned gold on that , instead of building up collection from this year (including upcoming expansion). Since I'm interested in standard I'd probably just dust all the cards from old expansions before rotation happens.
I'll grateful for insight from veterans. Also my humble collection should be public if that helps your insight.
I mean I think it's definitely worth it. Getting 400 dust from knights, and 400 dust from ungoro is awesome. 800 dust right there can go towards two epics of whatever deck you want to play, or a super good universal legendary like Leeroy Jenkins.
Spend your gold for the new expansions if ur not interested in Wild... and since the new expansions is coming soon i wouldn´t focus on the other expansions for now.
Do anything to build a deck which will bring you gold in return [jump to rank 5 each season]. Crafting Lich king or gul'dan is better than trying to gather cards which won't affect meta for more than 2 weeks past expansion release.
Since you are a new player lemme give u an advice that i wish i knew before. Dont dust the cards that gonna be out of standard in April. you will eventually want to play wild and regret the day you dust those cards.
Trust me on this, ppl that say they play for years but dont care about wild mode are narrow minded ppl that just follow whats good on youtube and twitch which of course is largely standard and not wild.
If you are interested in playing all the decks that are current in the format, just craft Whizzbang (this card should not rotate out of the format) cause he is a 1 card deck
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If you started playing in 2017 or 18 you already have nothing to do in wild since you lack cards from about 8 to 11 expansions and this problem will only be growing
I'm a new F2P player following advices I found on this forum (https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/211142-mistakes-and-pitfalls-for-new-players-and-advice) on the quest of building up my collection. One piece of advice that I commonly see online is that one should start with getting enough packs from every expansion to get all guaranteed legendaries. I followed that idea on all expansions except Journey to Un'Goro and Knights of the Frozen Throne. I know that those two will rotate out of standard in April, so I'm wondering if it's worth spending my hard earned gold on that , instead of building up collection from this year (including upcoming expansion). Since I'm interested in standard I'd probably just dust all the cards from old expansions before rotation happens.
I'll grateful for insight from veterans. Also my humble collection should be public if that helps your insight.
Glad you found my post useful. Part of that post is building your collection with an eye to the future in your first year. Spending gold on sets rotating out isnt a great idea at this point. You will get the cards, and not be able to play them that long, and thats if you get a good legendary out of it. Its entirely possible you could end up with a bad one like Lakkari Sacrifice, The Marsh Queen, The Voraxx, Arfus, orLilian Voss. You would then end up dusting it for 1/4th the crafting value, a terrible return. Then craft cards from this years sets at full value. Its likely better to buy packs from the next expansion and getting cards you can use for a longer period. The return on the packs will be much better because you wont have to craft cards you get in them. The down side is you wont be able to pick the cards. It all depends on how much gold you have. If you have been doing the daily quests and have 6k-8k gold, save it for the next expansion. You will still end up with some dust from duplicates.
I would also suggest not dusting rotated cards at this point in your playing. Wild may be something in your future, you really cant tell in the first year. Dusting will make that impossible and make doing some tavern brawls and other events hard to do.
Whizbang is a great card for new players. None of the decks are tier1 or anything close really but his decks do include lots of fun options that include plenty of Legendaries and Epics that you wouldn't get to use otherwise.
As someone who doesnt like wild, im fine with dusting rotating out cards.
Most of wild is pretty broken anyway and it keeps getting worse with every new expansion.
Also, if you play wild, youre gonna have to spend A TON as theres a lot more cards to craft than in standard.
Think for yourself, if you want to play wild one day dont dust em. If youre like me (playing for about 3 yrs now) and you know you arent playing wild, dust em and save your gold so you dont have to buy a ton of packs when new expansions hit.
Since you are a new player lemme give u an advice that i wish i knew before. Dont dust the cards that gonna be out of standard in April. you will eventually want to play wild and regret the day you dust those cards.
Trust me on this, ppl that say they play for years but dont care about wild mode are narrow minded ppl that just follow whats good on youtube and twitch which of course is largely standard and not wild.
think for yourself dont follow
So should he think for himself or follow your advice? ;)
Yea, I started playing shortly after Kobolds was released.
Learned about the rotation process and from that completely ignored Old Gods and Gadgetzan and only bought packs from the other sets (and still managed to save gold for Witchwood). Even without 3 sets of cards and not many from the other three, still managed to be between ranks 15-10 in those 4 months until rotation.
Things got better then as with WW and Boom I was on very good terms with most of the field - even managed to have 2 decks (and both were nerfed), rebuilt some and and hit at least rank 3 from then and even not playing for 3 months since Boom's release I could still craft 3-5 more decks but won't since there's a new expansion coming in a week.
I think more classes will open up for me in April as starting so late in the previous expansion made not have that many cards from the other expansions as compared to WW and Boom. We'll see.
Thanks for all the replies. And thanks to IDBY for his awesome guide. It seems majority of you suggests both focusing on the upcoming expansion and not dusting cards which are about to rotate.
But now I'm really intrigued by Whizbang that some of you mentioned. I'm tempted to dust enough pre Witchwood cards to get it, so that I can have some fun while growing collection of cards from this year in the anticipation of the rotation. Do you guys think it's a good investment (in that case guaranteed 800 dust from frozen throne and ungoro packs might actually be useful as Neeson suggested).
Whizbang uses the deck recipes from Blizzard. Those decks are tier 2 at best. Some a very very bad and looks like they were made by a drunk new player. They cant be improved, your stuck with the recipe. The decks are random when you start a game so its possible you will get a string of the very worst when playing. Its a fun card and if a new player gets it they should keep it. But dusting things to get it, or buying packs of an old expansion to dust to get it is not a good idea. I have whizbang, and played it about a week after the last expansion. Its just a tool to see some of the released cards. Its not a path to legend ranks.
The fact is newly released cards in a pack are always the best value. They have the longest to play. They cost no dust to craft. This upcoming expansion is looking very good with some nice cards already reveled. I am going to be opening 130, and that may not be enough.
i re-started playing very similar to a time frame as yours in late 2017 and a F2P. If you thinking about standard laddering for ranks, I would recommend that you wait until next year's rotation in April. Meanwhile, invest and collect cards from classic, Witchwood, Boomsday, and Rastkahn (focus on this one).
I don't have many cards from Ungoro, KoFT, and KnC myself. However, i got 2 good DK heroes (Rexxar, Guldan) from KoFT and built my decks around those. With the start of the Year of the Raven, I started a gold saving pattern where I collect as much gold (usually 7k-8k) as possible prior to an expansions release. Once the expansion releases, I will buy 70-80 packs using gold and immediately start saving for the next expansion.
The fact is newly released cards in a pack are always the best value. They have the longest to play.
False. Every card from 2018 will rotate out in april 2020.
BTW. you guys never heard of arena ??
So, if its false, which cards for a new player have the longest to play?
As for Arena, to save myself some typing Ill just copy something from my post for new players
One opinion (that seems to be all over the forums) says dont save your gold. Spend 150 gold on the Arena. You will get a pack, and if you win enough you will get more rewards like gold, cards, and dust. Some might even save gold for a month or so, but not much more. The other says save your gold from quests to by packs from the next expansion. The packs are only 100 gold so you get more packs. Each point sounds reasonable at first glance and if taken in the vacuum before an expansion is released its hard to see the advantage of one way over the other. The difference is after the release. The person who saved up gold can spend the gold at release and get a huge number of packs. If you average 10k gold saved, which is not impossible, you can buy 100 packs. At that point you have all the cards you will buy from that expansion. You will get a lot of the cards and a lot of dust from duplicates to craft things you didnt get. You wont get everything but neither method guarantees that. You can start playing meta decks in the first few weeks and enjoying the new meta. If on the other hand you didnt save gold or very little, you dont have the new cards, or a small amount of them. You will need to craft cards you need to play meta decks from dust. Then you will play Arena to get packs. If you play two arena runs a day it will take 50 days to get the same 100 packs the person who saved bought. But it will cost you 15k instead of 10k or you will get 66 packs for that 10k. You will likely open cards you crafted in those packs. You will likely dust those cards because you have multiples getting back 1/4th of the crafting cost. After almost two months you will will have to spend 5k more to get the same packs as someone who just saved. If you only have 10k you will open 34 less packs. The difference is you will have wasted resources and time. There may be other factors on why you want to use the Arena method, but for a beginner who cant afford to waste resources, saving is the way to go imho.
Hello everyone,
I'm a new F2P player following advices I found on this forum (https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/211142-mistakes-and-pitfalls-for-new-players-and-advice) on the quest of building up my collection. One piece of advice that I commonly see online is that one should start with getting enough packs from every expansion to get all guaranteed legendaries. I followed that idea on all expansions except Journey to Un'Goro and Knights of the Frozen Throne. I know that those two will rotate out of standard in April, so I'm wondering if it's worth spending my hard earned gold on that , instead of building up collection from this year (including upcoming expansion). Since I'm interested in standard I'd probably just dust all the cards from old expansions before rotation happens.
I'll grateful for insight from veterans. Also my humble collection should be public if that helps your insight.
New expansion drops on 12/4. I would save your gold for that.
I mean I think it's definitely worth it. Getting 400 dust from knights, and 400 dust from ungoro is awesome. 800 dust right there can go towards two epics of whatever deck you want to play, or a super good universal legendary like Leeroy Jenkins.
Spend your gold for the new expansions if ur not interested in Wild... and since the new expansions is coming soon i wouldn´t focus on the other expansions for now.
Do anything to build a deck which will bring you gold in return [jump to rank 5 each season]. Crafting Lich king or gul'dan is better than trying to gather cards which won't affect meta for more than 2 weeks past expansion release.
Dont dust all the cards rotating out. It's ok to dust some, but others are viable in wild. Which btw is a fun mode to play at some point.
Since you are a new player lemme give u an advice that i wish i knew before. Dont dust the cards that gonna be out of standard in April. you will eventually want to play wild and regret the day you dust those cards.
Trust me on this, ppl that say they play for years but dont care about wild mode are narrow minded ppl that just follow whats good on youtube and twitch which of course is largely standard and not wild.
think for yourself dont follow
If you are interested in playing all the decks that are current in the format, just craft Whizzbang (this card should not rotate out of the format) cause he is a 1 card deck
Just hanging around, talking in my Morgan Freeman voice :D
If you started playing in 2017 or 18 you already have nothing to do in wild since you lack cards from about 8 to 11 expansions and this problem will only be growing
Glad you found my post useful. Part of that post is building your collection with an eye to the future in your first year. Spending gold on sets rotating out isnt a great idea at this point. You will get the cards, and not be able to play them that long, and thats if you get a good legendary out of it. Its entirely possible you could end up with a bad one like Lakkari Sacrifice, The Marsh Queen, The Voraxx, Arfus, orLilian Voss. You would then end up dusting it for 1/4th the crafting value, a terrible return. Then craft cards from this years sets at full value. Its likely better to buy packs from the next expansion and getting cards you can use for a longer period. The return on the packs will be much better because you wont have to craft cards you get in them.
The down side is you wont be able to pick the cards. It all depends on how much gold you have. If you have been doing the daily quests and have 6k-8k gold, save it for the next expansion. You will still end up with some dust from duplicates.
I would also suggest not dusting rotated cards at this point in your playing. Wild may be something in your future, you really cant tell in the first year. Dusting will make that impossible and make doing some tavern brawls and other events hard to do.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
Whizbang is a great card for new players. None of the decks are tier1 or anything close really but his decks do include lots of fun options that include plenty of Legendaries and Epics that you wouldn't get to use otherwise.
As someone who doesnt like wild, im fine with dusting rotating out cards.
Most of wild is pretty broken anyway and it keeps getting worse with every new expansion.
Also, if you play wild, youre gonna have to spend A TON as theres a lot more cards to craft than in standard.
Think for yourself, if you want to play wild one day dont dust em. If youre like me (playing for about 3 yrs now) and you know you arent playing wild, dust em and save your gold so you dont have to buy a ton of packs when new expansions hit.
So should he think for himself or follow your advice? ;)
Yea, I started playing shortly after Kobolds was released.
Learned about the rotation process and from that completely ignored Old Gods and Gadgetzan and only bought packs from the other sets (and still managed to save gold for Witchwood). Even without 3 sets of cards and not many from the other three, still managed to be between ranks 15-10 in those 4 months until rotation.
Things got better then as with WW and Boom I was on very good terms with most of the field - even managed to have 2 decks (and both were nerfed), rebuilt some and and hit at least rank 3 from then and even not playing for 3 months since Boom's release I could still craft 3-5 more decks but won't since there's a new expansion coming in a week.
I think more classes will open up for me in April as starting so late in the previous expansion made not have that many cards from the other expansions as compared to WW and Boom. We'll see.
Thanks for all the replies. And thanks to IDBY for his awesome guide. It seems majority of you suggests both focusing on the upcoming expansion and not dusting cards which are about to rotate.
But now I'm really intrigued by Whizbang that some of you mentioned. I'm tempted to dust enough pre Witchwood cards to get it, so that I can have some fun while growing collection of cards from this year in the anticipation of the rotation. Do you guys think it's a good investment (in that case guaranteed 800 dust from frozen throne and ungoro packs might actually be useful as Neeson suggested).
Whizbag is playable for about month, later on basic decks are not more than a joke
Whizbang uses the deck recipes from Blizzard. Those decks are tier 2 at best. Some a very very bad and looks like they were made by a drunk new player. They cant be improved, your stuck with the recipe. The decks are random when you start a game so its possible you will get a string of the very worst when playing. Its a fun card and if a new player gets it they should keep it. But dusting things to get it, or buying packs of an old expansion to dust to get it is not a good idea.
I have whizbang, and played it about a week after the last expansion. Its just a tool to see some of the released cards. Its not a path to legend ranks.
The fact is newly released cards in a pack are always the best value. They have the longest to play. They cost no dust to craft. This upcoming expansion is looking very good with some nice cards already reveled. I am going to be opening 130, and that may not be enough.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
i re-started playing very similar to a time frame as yours in late 2017 and a F2P. If you thinking about standard laddering for ranks, I would recommend that you wait until next year's rotation in April. Meanwhile, invest and collect cards from classic, Witchwood, Boomsday, and Rastkahn (focus on this one).
I don't have many cards from Ungoro, KoFT, and KnC myself. However, i got 2 good DK heroes (Rexxar, Guldan) from KoFT and built my decks around those. With the start of the Year of the Raven, I started a gold saving pattern where I collect as much gold (usually 7k-8k) as possible prior to an expansions release. Once the expansion releases, I will buy 70-80 packs using gold and immediately start saving for the next expansion.
False. Every card from 2018 will rotate out in april 2020.
BTW. you guys never heard of arena ??
So, if its false, which cards for a new player have the longest to play?
As for Arena, to save myself some typing Ill just copy something from my post for new players
One opinion (that seems to be all over the forums) says dont save your gold. Spend 150 gold on the Arena. You will get a pack, and if you win enough you will get more rewards like gold, cards, and dust. Some might even save gold for a month or so, but not much more. The other says save your gold from quests to by packs from the next expansion. The packs are only 100 gold so you get more packs. Each point sounds reasonable at first glance and if taken in the vacuum before an expansion is released its hard to see the advantage of one way over the other. The difference is after the release.
The person who saved up gold can spend the gold at release and get a huge number of packs. If you average 10k gold saved, which is not impossible, you can buy 100 packs. At that point you have all the cards you will buy from that expansion. You will get a lot of the cards and a lot of dust from duplicates to craft things you didnt get. You wont get everything but neither method guarantees that. You can start playing meta decks in the first few weeks and enjoying the new meta.
If on the other hand you didnt save gold or very little, you dont have the new cards, or a small amount of them. You will need to craft cards you need to play meta decks from dust. Then you will play Arena to get packs. If you play two arena runs a day it will take 50 days to get the same 100 packs the person who saved bought. But it will cost you 15k instead of 10k or you will get 66 packs for that 10k. You will likely open cards you crafted in those packs. You will likely dust those cards because you have multiples getting back 1/4th of the crafting cost. After almost two months you will will have to spend 5k more to get the same packs as someone who just saved. If you only have 10k you will open 34 less packs.
The difference is you will have wasted resources and time. There may be other factors on why you want to use the Arena method, but for a beginner who cant afford to waste resources, saving is the way to go imho.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.