the best pricing comparation comes from arena, that costs 2 bucks or 150g 2 bucks = 150g x bucks = 700g x = 9.3!
Which means, the Naxx entry is overpriced in gold and cheaper in real life money! So, unless you dont intend to ever again spend money on hearthstone, its best to leave your gold for arenas and packs and buy Naxx wings with cash.
I allready give 50 euros and they are enough for a free game there is no chance to give 25 euros in every patch so 4-5 good arenas and all the wings are unlocked...
And I guarantee you that Blizzard did these exact calculations and hoped that we would so that the long-time, higher level players who never spend any cash because they can always earn enough gold in the Arena will now pause and think, "Well, guess I'll throw down some money now."
I don't mind paying "more" with gold rather than with money. I have gold just lying around so I might as well use it. Don't have the full collection yet, but I would rather avoid spending real money in this game when I have the option not to.
Here's another way of putting it. Suppose you had 2800 gold and $20.
Paying for Naxx with in game gold and buying packs/arena with $ will net you: Naxx + 15 packs/10 arenas. On the other hand,
Paying for Naxx with $ and buying packs/arena with in game gold will net you: Naxx + 28 packs/18 arenas + 100 gold.
Of course, if you do not intend to spend more than $20 on this game, then the above is moot, but if you do, spending it on Naxx instead of packs/arena is almost 2x more cost efficient in terms of packs/arena gained, as I'm sure was the intention of the pricing model.
I personally won't be spending cash on Naxx. While Naxx has a worse gold to money ratio than any other purchase in the game, 2800 gold for 30 unique cards and approx 55 cards total (seeing as we'll be getting x2 of all non legendary cards), 2800 isn't a bad purchase and it does prevent me from having to open my wallet and digging out the credit card.
I too do not have a complete set of cards. Far from it. I've been saving gold since Naxx was announced. I have pretty much exactly 7000 gold and now that I know exactly how much gold I need, I intend to start spending my gold again on arena and card packs. Really looking forward to Naxx, I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Kudos on Blizz for the pricing, I was expecting it to be slightly more expensive and I believe the price in both gold and money is completely fair.
I keep seeing this argument crop up in threads. First off, I'd like to say that these calculations are useful to players as a baseline for making their decision. That being said, I think that drawing the conclusion that because the gold-->real money conversion favors real money means everyone should opt to spend real money is faulty. I would have been surprised if the conversion hadn't favored real money. Blizzard wants to incentivise spending real money over gold.
For me, I plan on only spending money every time a major expansion is released so I'm planning on spending only gold on Nax. Even if technically I would be optimizing my purchase by spending that money on Nax rather than future expansion packs it wouldn't be optimizing my experience. The gold price for Nax is very accessible and I'm happy to spend my gold this way. I much prefer to wait and spend the money on a new expansion where I can open 40 packs at once. Spending money in these two cases provide two very different experiences.
But this is just based on my own preference for spending money on the game. These calculations are useful for all players, but don't by any means make their choice for them. To state otherwise is implying that Blizzard has created a false choice which I don't think they have.
Well the thing is that at this point whenver I open a pack what I mostly get out of it is dust. Paying for dust makes little sence to me. I rather save up the gold and play nax for free.
Looking at it as hard numbers does seem like paying for nax is more "efficient" than just saving up gold. But I assure you that real money is by far more valuable than HS coins and given the choice I will always rather save up my coins than spend a dime on the game.
The only time paying for packs made any sence to me was when I was getting started and I had a very high chance of actually get a new card out of the packs. After that, as I said, it became the equivalent of paying for dust... which has very little value considering how much of it you need to craft a legendary card.
I will be buying Naxx because it is only going to be 25$ and I would much rather have the extra 2800 cards worth than 25$ worth of cards. I find the value to be a little skewed there. Granted it is just personal preference on whether or not you want to spend money. I am proud to say I haven't spent a dime yet, but I need an excuse to support the devs!
25$ is nothing. By all means though, go ahead and grind 700 gold, that should only take a full work week or so.
You call it a grind. I call it a bi-product of the usual game play experience. IMO if you play the game, you'll get the gold without having to actually go out of your way to grind it. As long as people are willing to exhibit some self control and not spend their gold as soon as they get it, it's easy to unlock Naxx just by normal playing.
What it boils down to is: if you ever intend to spend money on Hearthstone, spending it on Naxx makes sense. Paying gold for Naxx and later spending cash on card packs is a mistake.
If you never intend to spend any money at all.. well, then there's not really any decision to discuss, is there? :-)
Since Hearthstone gold is obtained from in-game quests, wins, and arena rewards it's not a simple comparison to actual money. I'd rather purchase the Wings with gold since I acquired it without spending a dime. No money out of my pocket, just time.
After some calculations:
1 wing = 700g or 7bucks
the best pricing comparation comes from arena, that costs 2 bucks or 150g
2 bucks = 150g
x bucks = 700g
x = 9.3!
Which means, the Naxx entry is overpriced in gold and cheaper in real life money!
So, unless you dont intend to ever again spend money on hearthstone, its best to leave your gold for arenas and packs and buy Naxx wings with cash.
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I'm gonna have to actually spend money on this game :(
Ah, well. Naxx seems fun, and I want me them Dark Cultists.
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I allready give 50 euros and they are enough for a free game there is no chance to give 25 euros in every patch so 4-5 good arenas and all the wings are unlocked...
And I guarantee you that Blizzard did these exact calculations and hoped that we would so that the long-time, higher level players who never spend any cash because they can always earn enough gold in the Arena will now pause and think, "Well, guess I'll throw down some money now."
Smart play.
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I don't mind paying "more" with gold rather than with money. I have gold just lying around so I might as well use it. Don't have the full collection yet, but I would rather avoid spending real money in this game when I have the option not to.
If I was Blizzard I would limit the number of wings purchased with gold each day. Then I would laugh a maniacal laugh.
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Here's another way of putting it. Suppose you had 2800 gold and $20.
Paying for Naxx with in game gold and buying packs/arena with $ will net you: Naxx + 15 packs/10 arenas. On the other hand,
Paying for Naxx with $ and buying packs/arena with in game gold will net you: Naxx + 28 packs/18 arenas + 100 gold.
Of course, if you do not intend to spend more than $20 on this game, then the above is moot, but if you do, spending it on Naxx instead of packs/arena is almost 2x more cost efficient in terms of packs/arena gained, as I'm sure was the intention of the pricing model.
Think you got your two examples the wrong way around, Crux. :)
40Packs - $50
1 Pack --> $1,25 = 150g
700g = $5,83
Using the 40 Packs bundle isnted of the 2 Pack one, hope i didnt messed anything
I personally won't be spending cash on Naxx. While Naxx has a worse gold to money ratio than any other purchase in the game, 2800 gold for 30 unique cards and approx 55 cards total (seeing as we'll be getting x2 of all non legendary cards), 2800 isn't a bad purchase and it does prevent me from having to open my wallet and digging out the credit card.
I too do not have a complete set of cards. Far from it. I've been saving gold since Naxx was announced. I have pretty much exactly 7000 gold and now that I know exactly how much gold I need, I intend to start spending my gold again on arena and card packs. Really looking forward to Naxx, I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Kudos on Blizz for the pricing, I was expecting it to be slightly more expensive and I believe the price in both gold and money is completely fair.
I keep seeing this argument crop up in threads. First off, I'd like to say that these calculations are useful to players as a baseline for making their decision. That being said, I think that drawing the conclusion that because the gold-->real money conversion favors real money means everyone should opt to spend real money is faulty. I would have been surprised if the conversion hadn't favored real money. Blizzard wants to incentivise spending real money over gold.
For me, I plan on only spending money every time a major expansion is released so I'm planning on spending only gold on Nax. Even if technically I would be optimizing my purchase by spending that money on Nax rather than future expansion packs it wouldn't be optimizing my experience. The gold price for Nax is very accessible and I'm happy to spend my gold this way. I much prefer to wait and spend the money on a new expansion where I can open 40 packs at once. Spending money in these two cases provide two very different experiences.
But this is just based on my own preference for spending money on the game. These calculations are useful for all players, but don't by any means make their choice for them. To state otherwise is implying that Blizzard has created a false choice which I don't think they have.
I think people should use real money to support the game period. Great game no need to not support if you can.
Well the thing is that at this point whenver I open a pack what I mostly get out of it is dust. Paying for dust makes little sence to me. I rather save up the gold and play nax for free.
Looking at it as hard numbers does seem like paying for nax is more "efficient" than just saving up gold. But I assure you that real money is by far more valuable than HS coins and given the choice I will always rather save up my coins than spend a dime on the game.
The only time paying for packs made any sence to me was when I was getting started and I had a very high chance of actually get a new card out of the packs. After that, as I said, it became the equivalent of paying for dust... which has very little value considering how much of it you need to craft a legendary card.
I will be buying Naxx because it is only going to be 25$ and I would much rather have the extra 2800 cards worth than 25$ worth of cards. I find the value to be a little skewed there. Granted it is just personal preference on whether or not you want to spend money. I am proud to say I haven't spent a dime yet, but I need an excuse to support the devs!
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25$ is nothing. By all means though, go ahead and grind 700 gold, that should only take a full work week or so.
Whoops :P Thanks for that; edited.
You call it a grind. I call it a bi-product of the usual game play experience. IMO if you play the game, you'll get the gold without having to actually go out of your way to grind it. As long as people are willing to exhibit some self control and not spend their gold as soon as they get it, it's easy to unlock Naxx just by normal playing.
I agree that you will get gold, you certainly will not get 700 a week by "usual game play experience".
What it boils down to is: if you ever intend to spend money on Hearthstone, spending it on Naxx makes sense. Paying gold for Naxx and later spending cash on card packs is a mistake.
If you never intend to spend any money at all.. well, then there's not really any decision to discuss, is there? :-)
Since Hearthstone gold is obtained from in-game quests, wins, and arena rewards it's not a simple comparison to actual money. I'd rather purchase the Wings with gold since I acquired it without spending a dime. No money out of my pocket, just time.
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