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I've seen people asking for nerfs on ANYTHING. If Blizzard one day decides to actually pay attention to the community and starts nerfing as requested, we are going to have a game with only wisps. And still someone would say wisp is op. I'm not even kidding.
Doesnt this happen in every TCG community? like everyone plays a trendy deck and just techs some cards in it to win mirror matches or something. I see no point in this thread
I've seen people asking for nerfs on ANYTHING. If Blizzard one day decides to actually pay attention to the community and starts nerfing as requested, we are going to have a game with only wisps. And still someone would say wisp is op. I'm not even kidding.
True netdecks evolve over a period of time, with the collective internet coming together to perfect a certain deck. That is how we got definitive lists for powerhouse decks like Patron and Secret Paladin. The innovation (aka a new deck) starts somewhere, and is then copied, refined, adjusted, copied again, etc. to the point of a near perfect list. At that point, people will tweak the netdeck according to their own preferences, meta choices, and card availability, but those are just that: tweaks.
My point is: people who think their own creative decks will ever be anywhere near as competitive as the "known" netdecks, are delusional. Do you honestly believe you, on your own, are a better deck builder than the countless of people working on a single deck put together? Sure, your own deck might be fun, and it might win some of the games some of the time, but it will never be on the same level as netdecks.
Show me a single example of a player (pro or not) who has made a "new" deck which later turned out to be the best possible version of that deck.
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Card Design ChampionIf you netdeck you have to endure being called a "netdecker", because that's neither a lie nor an insult but a fact. If you have a negative connotation for the word, it simply means that you know yourself that it's a lazy way out and showcases a lack of (deckbuilding) skill.
That's all there is to it.
Te be honest, "deckbuilding" is the actual skill in HS, since the game itself so easy to pilot. Give a new player a FOTM tier 1 deck, and I can assure you he can reach legend within a month. Tho, the HS card pool is limited and many decks auto-build themselves to a certain degree, so even that point is kinda moot.
What agitates me is when a FOTM netdecker face shaman BMs on top. That's prime jerk asshat behavior. That's like cheating on a test and then boasting about being "so intelligent". It's pathetic, really.
I've seen people asking for nerfs on ANYTHING. If Blizzard one day decides to actually pay attention to the community and starts nerfing as requested, we are going to have a game with only wisps. And still someone would say wisp is op. I'm not even kidding.
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Card Design ChampionI don't mind net deckers. What I do mind is Hearthpwn having a list of decks on the front page, so then when I start queuing up I get to play against the same Shaman deck every other game. Please get rid of that crap.
I feel if people don't net deck they can't ever be as good as people who do. I'm not talking about getting exact decklists off the internet except more like the archtypes. If I make my own aggro shaman or my own zoo that has like 3 different cards or even like 10 different cards I still consider it a netdeck because I didn't create the archtype. I wouldn't have came up with the idea of the deck or anything it would just be a slightly different zoo. That's why I think someone who truly builds decks completely from scratch and tries to come up with new archtypes will 90% just have a bad, unrefined deck that will never be competitive. When people claim they don't netdeck, and then use tempo mage except its actually just regular tempo mage with the exception of like 4 cards you are not a deckbuilder at all.
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I certainly believe you. I often find myself in the same position regarding professional plays/players. I am very good as well. However, I love deckbuilding and find the theorycraft aspect of the game to put me in a more edjucated position when making my desicions during plays/spectating. But making the same desicion that I would in the same hypothetical position would absolutely be possible from another strategic background. I see your point and agree with your perspective. This is not my native language.
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You people need to understand that it is not possible to not plagiarize in this game to an unknown extent, because what works and what not is already there for you to find whether you check a list or not. You will eventually run into it on ladder. The original ideas you have do not make a whole deck, and even if they make a good part of the deck as in the case of when Grim Patron Warrior first appeared, it is the pro HS community that will refine it and make it a tier 1 deck. A good deck is not a one man's job, and you don't even have a good claim on your own decks because the ideas are out there already even if you don't remember seeing them. You are not completely self-aware. Maybe you have a legit claim on one idea or another but you do not have a legit claim on a whole deck and never will. That's a very silly and intellectualy immature thought.
Having said that, netdeckers are not good players.