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#1 Nov 13, 2015 (Explorers)
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                                                        Expansion | Adventure

Introduction

A collection created by a community, balanced and totally playable for Hearthstone.

Contributors, take a look at Card Creation Guide. Submission>Review>Discussion>Collection.

Feel free to comment on BOTH submissions and current collections. (Balancing, Imperfect Text, Better Ideas)

Do check the last few pages to see what new card designs others have produced

If you like it, give us an upvote!

Images have audios (In progress)

Do take a look at the Adventure too!

Expansion Notes

This "Expansion" is called the Ancient World.

New Mechanics:

"Patience:" - At the end of your opponent's turn, if the card is in your hand, activate its effect (Before draw phase and activation also reveals the card to your opponent.)

Ignore - Cards in play will not take into account the term (e.g Ignore Armour ).

Lifesteal - After a character deals damage and survives, restore Health to it equal to its Attack.

Elusive - Can't be targeted by spells or Hero Powers.

Clumsy - 50% chance to attack the wrong enemy.

Fatality - Does something when a minion is killed.

Offense - Does something when attacking.

Cleave - Also damages the minions next to whomever it attacks.

New Race/Tribes: Undead

If you are wondering where the Item cards come from, they come from these cards:

   The Collection is after the Discussion

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Priest

By ScaryKoolaid By ImbaHS Concept by Thelkuzad and rajqpan

By Thelkuzad                                Inspired by Eloc86                                  By ImbaHs

   Concept by Thelkuzad and NzlPapa              By Thelkuzad                                  Inspired by Thelkuzad



    Concept by Thelkuzad and ImbaHS

Warrior

By ImbasHS           Concept by Thelkuzad        By ScaryKooLaid

  Inspired by rajqpan     Concept by rajqpan                  By ImbaHS



   By ImbaHS                                          By Thelkuzad

Warlock

By ImbaHS

                                                            By ImbaHS



By ImbaHS By ImbaHS By Thelkuzad



  By Thelkuzad   By Thelkuzad    By Thelkuzad

                          By ImbaHS

Foulfell Hellion:

              Concept by Thelkuzad                            By ImbaHS

Druid

By ImbaHS By ImbaHS Concept by Thelkuzad



Inspired by Thelkuzad By ImbaHS By Thelkuzad



By ScaryKoolaid    By ScaryKoolaid Inspired by ScaryKoolaid



                 By ImbaHS                                           By ImbaHS                                         By ImbaHS

                      By ImbaHS                                            By ImbaHS                                           By ImbaHS

                  By Thelkuzad

Mage

         By ImbaHS By ImbaHS By ImbaHS



             Concept by Thelkuzad             Concept by Eloc86 and Thelkuzad            By ImbaHS



                      By ImbaHS                                         By ImbaHS                                       By rajqpan



Paladin

By Hackergrad     Concept By Thelkuzad By ImbaHS

                 By ImbaHS                                        By ImbaHS                                          By Thelkuzad

                 By ImbaHS                                                By ImbaHS                                            By ImbaHS

                  By ImbaHS                                                By ImbaHS

Shaman



By Thelkuzad By ImbaHS   By ImbaHS



            Concept by Eloc86                Inspired by Thelkuzad By ImbaHS

           Concept by Thelkuzad                    By ImbaHS                 Concept by MarioToast and rajqpan



                        By ImbaHS



Hunter



By ImbaHS Inspired by MarioToast Concept by ScaryKoolaid



By Thelkuzad By Eloc86                              Concept by Thelkuzad

           Concept by Thelkuzad                               By ImbaHS

Rogue



Concept By Thelkuzad      Concept by rajqpan Inspired by ScaryKoolaid

By ImbaHS    Inspired by MarioToast    Concept by NzlPapa

By rajqpan                                     Inspired by rajpan                                  By rajpan (Token)



           Concept by Thelkuzad

Neutral Legendaries

       By ImbaHS By Thelkuzad            By ImbaHS

  By Thelkuzad By ImbaHS Concept By Zkaletus



Concept By Thelkuzad           By ScaryKoolaid Concept by Thelkuzad

                  By Eloc86                                           By Hackergrad                                    By ImbaHS


Inspired by Eloc86

How Unstable Concoction Works:



Inspired by Thelkuzad Inspired by gh0s7h0und                              By ImbaHS

                   By Thelkuzad                                  Concept by Thelkuzad                             By Thelkuzad

             By Thelkuzad                                                 By Thelkuzad                                   By Thelkuzad



                  By ImbaHS                                             By ImbaHS                                 Inspired by Thelkuzad

             Concept By Thelkuzad                          By Thelkuzad                    Concept by Thelkuzad and rajqpan



                                                                                By Thelkuzad



                                                            Concepts by Thelkuzad and ImbaHS

                       By ImbaHS                              Concept by Thelkuzad            Concept by Thelkuzad and ImbaHS

                        By Eloc86                           By Thelkuzad and ImbaHS                              By ImbaHS

                                                                Concept by Thelkuzad

Powerful Weapons:

                       By ImbaHS                                    By Thelkuzad

Shopkeeper Items









Spell Classes' Weapon/Protective Concepts will be added soon

Secret Shop Items

                                                                       Concept by gh0s7h0und

        Concept by gh0s7h0und

Spell Classes' Weapon/Protective Concepts will be added soon. Balancing in progress

Ancient World Creeps





More will be added!

Class Spells



                By ImbaHS                                           By ImbaHS                                       By ImbaHS

                 By ImbaHS                                    By rajqpan                                Concept by rajqpan

           Concept by rajpan                             By DoctorWhoops                                 By DrWhoops



                   By ImbaHS                                           By rajqpan                                    By ImbaHS





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Special Thanks

Thelkuzad - Endless supply of designs to draw inspirations from, text rewords, balancing.

rajqpan - Designs, graphic improvements, text rewords, balancing.

loopuleasa - Keywords http://imgur.com/a/TS9eH
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#3 Nov 13, 2015 (Explorers)
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@ImbaBest You could actually probably use the Discover mechanic like, Discover a Demon Witch spell.

Probably a bit strong but shut up, Phoenix is my favorite.

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For some reason, I feel like I'm madly in love with Paladins...

What does one think? Should it also affect non-played minions? Also, how does it affect Mirror Entity?

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#10 Nov 13, 2015 (Explorers)
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the idea isn't new

144 images with dota2 ideas at imgur http://imgur.com/a/8VQ92#17

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Heroes never die.
#13 Nov 13, 2015 (Explorers)
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Quote from Zt1mQ >>

the idea isn't new

144 images with dota2 ideas at imgur http://imgur.com/a/8VQ92#17

Ugh, the wording is awful on nearly every single card there

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#16 Nov 13, 2015 (Explorers)
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Druid:

Rogue:

Shaman:

Hunter:

Mage:

Warrior:

Warlock:

Priest:

Paladin:

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I thought you were talking about the original defense of the ancients....

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THE ELEPHANTS WILL DESTROY YOU!
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Quote from Lucacov >>

I thought you were talking about the original defense of the ancients....

The vast majority of DotA2 characters are direct ports from the original/DotA: Allstars from The Frozen Throne mod.

DotA2 is basically just a standalone version of the mod with better graphics and new models because it's not a Blizzard product. Blizzard was a little late to the MOBA party with Heroes....

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Quote from ScaryKoolaid >>

Quote from Lucacov >>

I thought you were talking about the original defense of the ancients....

The vast majority of DotA2 characters are direct ports from the original/DotA: Allstars from The Frozen Throne mod.

DotA2 is basically just a standalone version of the mod with better graphics and new models because it's not a Blizzard product. Blizzard was a little late to the MOBA party with Heroes....

I know that, I used to play it all the time, it just seems odd to slap Dota 2 characters on cards aside from the original heroes of the first game.

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Quote from Thelkuzad >>

@ImbaBest You could actually probably use the Discover mechanic like, Discover a Demon Witch spell.

Probably a bit strong but shut up, Phoenix is my favorite.

The egg should probably be like 0/3 or something in my opinion. It's beyond a "bit strong" ;) Your 8/8 can just go face every turn and that means they have to deal 16 (!!!!!) damage to it to kill it or have a Silence, otherwise you just immediately get your 8/8 back on your turn. Granted, it's sleepy, but a 1/8 egg is beyond OP....

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Hi fellow friend, really great to have you here! I see you put in a lot of effort and i like quite number of your cards!

Banehallow: I like the concept. The Lycan can be adjusted though.

Lanaya: I Like it :). Let's see if others have better inputs.

Tiny: I really like this, because it fits his theme. It's only good after becoming an 8/8 though and i'm not sure if Tiny can survive two turns.

Sandking: Great!

Rylai: I think this card could be changed as playing Blizzard is better in my opinion unless you really want to achieve something with the 2/2 body.

Wraith King: Did you mean unexpended? This will be a great idea if it is. Imagine not spending any mana on the turn before. Your wraith king can come back as a 7/10 and has to be killed before he can die. Great! Might be more balanced as a 8 mana card

Doom: I'm not sure about this, will have to wait for others' opinions

Dazzle: I like this alot, it is a holy nova + minion that requires you to have a board control. Did you mean "Other" friendly minions or can Dazzle do 1 aoe dmg on his own?

Rogue Knight: Have no complains about him.

I like it :). Will also think through of the possible refinements at my free time.

Thank you!
Lycan: How would you adjust The Lycan? Is he too strong? My thought for balance here was he's essentially 8/8 for 6 spread across 3 bodies in a class with Savage Roar so kind of strong there. The idea is the opponent needs to kill your Banehallow before the Wolves both die.
Lanaya: Thanks! I'm afraid she might be too strong in Oil Rogue, but I think it's close with her cost. Oil with her alone in play represents a potential like 14 damage off her alone though, but I was trying to figure something useful for Rogue that fit DotA2 mechanics. Maybe Divine Shield is too much.

Tiny: I originally drafted him up as 3 mana, but I was afraid that it might be too hard to answers before he goes completely out of control. He's still soft to Silence so maybe a bit of tweaking.

SK: Thanks :)

Rylai: My thought was she'd function as a 3rd copy of Blizzard in Freeze Mage where I figured she would feel most at home.

WK: That's the idea. It'd lead to Control Warriors playing around with their mana before passing. The term in HS lingo is "filled Mana Crystal" and "empty Mana Crystal" so basically, if you had 3 mana left filled when you pass the turn and opponent kills him he'd come back as a 7/7 -4 Health (the way Redemption works bringing back minions as damaged down to 1) - this would make him more soft to Silence as he wouldn't go from like a 7/3 with a Deathrattle to a vanilla 7/7 when silenced. Similarly you could certainly smash him on your turn with 8+ mana and he'd come back as a 7/7 with a +Health modifier again leaving him softer to Silence. It harkens back to DotA2 WK where you'd always want to leave mana untouched for his ultimate Resurrection to be active. Additionally, I thought he felt pretty balanced as even if you left a few crystals filled when you passed, the first instance of his Deathrattle will empty all your crystals and leave him soft to a trade. I.E. I have 3 crystals and pass. You BGH my 7/7, he comes back as a 7/3 but now I have 0 filled crystals, a 3/X can trade into him and kill for good.

Doom: I basically used Lucifron as the bones for this. I think that card is awesome, but grossly undercosted (I mean it's a Brawl/Heroic minion so it's obviously OP). Corruption feels like Doom's ultimate a lot to me as it's just this timed death. Maybe this is too strong of an ability but it hits your guys too.

Dazzle: Yes it counts Dazzle on Battlecry. So at a minimum, it's like a halved Holy Nova with a Spider Tank body for +1 mana. If you played him as your 7th minion he'd be pretty darn insane as he'd be a 7 damage/heal Holy Nova, but Priest is a class that tends to go 'tall' rather than 'wide' so getting a full board can be a challenge. Might spawn an aggressive Priest deck.

Sven: Thanks!

Thanks for all the feedback, it's really appreciated!

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Alright, I have one Radiant Strength, Dire Strength, Radiant Agility, Dire Agility, Radiant Intelligence, and Dire Intelligence, plus a few items and Roshan.

Balance may be a bit off since I'm doing this at night and I'm tired, plus it gets difficult to balance giant effects like Roshan.

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@ImbaBest Your Huskar doesn't have a name enabled.

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POSTED by THELKUZAD

Very neat idea. But i think it's absurdly strong in control warrior. I believe the Joust effect is to benefit Control when playing against aggro. And Control warrior has an edge (in terms of minion average mana cost) over most of the other control types other then warlocks because they run so many High Cost minions. I will keep the idea but needs tuning. But could replace Justicar (in theory) for a more aggressive warrior (non fatigue) if it was this powerful

I like the Charge effect. I'm thinking of making it a mini icehowl (slightly more damage, but can only attack minions) + cleave. What do you think?

Balanced card. I like it.

In theory, in combos quite well with things like rockbiter weapon. But i have to think about the gameplay to see whether its viable. If it was the start of the turn and as a 3/8?

I like the general idea, but think the mines can be improved a little as you lost a lot of tempo playing Techies. I don't think increasing stats for Techies makes sense if we were to take reference to Dota though xD.

Another version of Troggzor the Earthinator. I Like it alot!

Have to see others' opinions.

Aegis: Will take a look again

Cheese: Might change to 10 heal and 4 Mana.

Since cheese is a consumable, we could treat it like Innervate

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I was comparing LC against Mistcaller. Maybe increase her cost a bit? I think Spirit Breaker should stay as is, give him more damage and he'll be able to do some stupid things against a board and 4/3 charge against face is... a worse Druid of the Claw.

The idea of Morphling was that on your opponent's turn it was this big tanky minion that's hard to get rid of, but on your turn it's a giant monster that can smack their stuff silly. If it starts 3/8 it goes to 8/3 on your opponent's turn and then just dies.

Techies was a pain. I was trying hard to compare Iron Juggernaut's mine to Pyroblast to find how much 'shuffle this effect' cheapens something, Arcane Explosion, etc. It was a headache and the mines may very well need buffing.

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Also Imgur was being silly, and now Roshan's properly shown hopefully.

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Still protects the integrity of its weapon effects in DotA

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I like the Shadow Blade. And Stealth for heroes... if you don't use it to deal 6 damage that's some pretty good protection on its own!

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Just wanted to say that you guys have done an amazing job at making these cards true to their DotA counterparts. As someone who used to be a rather avid player, I'm impressed!

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Wee Spellstopper is the best card ever; no question about it.
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Thanks. Finally Flare makes more sense if it did actually affect heroes right? Haha

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