I am more or less set on my set (lul) but I want to create a coherent bundle to include in order to give it a theme.
Bundle #1 - Curve into your Old God (or DW)
This is the one I've shown before.
Kosumoth has been modified since last time.
Bundle #2 - Egg Package
Deathrattle was a subtheme of WOG, and eggs are a subtheme of my class.
Bundle #3 - Empty Deck
I went a little bit wild. People on the "lonely creative corner" don't really like it but what about you guys? If I don't do it this expansion, I will do it with KFT because I have a good DK idea related to this in store.
Obviously I would have to choose between Kosumoth and Cookie.
Bundle #4 - Random damage & synergy
Pls tell me which you prefer.
In addition to this, I've changed 2 cards.
Fantastic Feast
Big heals are more useful in the mid-game because they can counter aggro decks. This also incentivizes you to play and hold on Roast cards.
Top Chef
I figured out the first version is a worse Tracking 90% of the time. The second version costs 0 but the threshold has been raised to 6.
Bundle 1 - Haute Cuisine can cost 2. Kosumoth I don't like. Any deck that uses more than 2 10-cost deck is probably too slow to be playable, and you can't use many other Roast cards for fear of destroying them. I'd suggest relaxing Kosumoth's Roast if you go with this bundle.
Bundle 2 - This is my favorite bundle, but I worry that Corrupted Egg is too cheap. Destroying a random minion costs 3, egg only costs 1 but its easy to combo. So...maybe its balanced. But I do like the simple and flavorful combo.
Bundle 3 - My least favorite bundle. Last year someone had a similar theme of destroying their deck for massive bonuses. Its a very huge risk, and one I don't like in card design. Unless its a very expensive card, I generally don't like a card that wins or loses the game by itself. I do like the outside-the-box design, just not this application. That said, I'd suggest saving Cookie for a future expansion. He has food themes, but not Old God themes. There are pirates in Gadgetzhan, and he could fit in Kobolds as he's a boss in an underground dungeon.
Bundle 4 - Sauteed Silithid is a cool idea for a subtheme of your class. Using cards that give your Hero Power a bonus effect when you use it. Ideally there will be some kind of UI effect to show those extra effects. That said, I don't love the idea of "untargeted damage" from Crazy Chef. Its a weird term, but maybe that's just me.
So for those bundles, I like #2 the most, but Sauteed Silithid has cool flavor (assuming you aren't already doing stuff like that and I sound dumb).
Fantastic Feast change is good. Top Chef could be 0 mana and (5) cost card. Depending on your deck, is a <50% to draw a card for 0 mana. That's fine.
Uh, so I'm stuck. Can you guys help me out. I can't think of a card I can use for my final slot.
Hey everyone, thanks again for your feedback. I've been away all weekend, and I know I've been bad about responding and helping others. Will be home soon and hoping to do better at that.
For Demonxz95 - What do you have so far? And most importantly, what kind of hole do you want to fill? Are you looking to make a big minion? Small minion? Summon spell? Keyword spell? Buff? Card useful for control? Agro?
All I need is my last common Karazhan card. Preferably, it would be cool to have a mid to high-cost spell (somewhere about 3+) to go along with Theatre Symphonist and the small spell theme of this set, but I'm fine with absolutely anything provided it makes sense within the class.
A few ideas I did previously have:
The first version of Invitation from Beyond was supposed to be kind of a tutor card and also works with Quick-Time with the flavor that the minion is "invited" over to your hand or battlefield (party). The second version has the same thematic, but works differently. It does feel like just a better Gather Your Party though.
Medivh's Spellbook I made mostly for the spell-thematic of Karazhan. The wording may seem a bit weird, but I worded it how I did because literally every single other card I have for this phase has at least 3 lines of text, so this seems like a breath of fresh air.
Chronoleap does play into the time travel and rearranging aspect quite a lot. Sinti did however point out Malygos could be a problem (I don't have damage target spells that hit face but I could in the future) and it would restrict design space.
Although I do like ??? Portal, I feel several other people will do the same thing with a "3 portal", so it kind of loses its touch. I also don't know what place is in that portal.
Anything that makes sense as a Common, a Time Traveler card and a Karazhan card is perfectly fine with me, regardless of what it is or what it does.
Theater Symphonist - I've been rethinking this card, and its pretty crazy. You could potentially cast a big spell and draw it next turn. I'd suggest making this use up that spell, rather than cast a copy of it.
??? Portal could be Caverns of Time or Timeless Isle Portal. It and Medivh's Spellbook are my favorites of your suggestions. Perhaps you could include a removal spell, unless your OG set has one or more. Or a cheap spell (1 mana?) that lets you trigger Quick-Time this turn for cards in your hand.
Uh, so I'm stuck. Can you guys help me out. I can't think of a card I can use for my final slot.
Hey everyone, thanks again for your feedback. I've been away all weekend, and I know I've been bad about responding and helping others. Will be home soon and hoping to do better at that.
For Demonxz95 - What do you have so far? And most importantly, what kind of hole do you want to fill? Are you looking to make a big minion? Small minion? Summon spell? Keyword spell? Buff? Card useful for control? Agro?
All I need is my last common Karazhan card. Preferably, it would be cool to have a mid to high-cost spell (somewhere about 3+) to go along with Theatre Symphonist and the small spell theme of this set, but I'm fine with absolutely anything provided it makes sense within the class.
A few ideas I did previously have:
The first version of Invitation from Beyond was supposed to be kind of a tutor card and also works with Quick-Time with the flavor that the minion is "invited" over to your hand or battlefield (party). The second version has the same thematic, but works differently. It does feel like just a better Gather Your Party though.
Medivh's Spellbook I made mostly for the spell-thematic of Karazhan. The wording may seem a bit weird, but I worded it how I did because literally every single other card I have for this phase has at least 3 lines of text, so this seems like a breath of fresh air.
Chronoleap does play into the time travel and rearranging aspect quite a lot. Sinti did however point out Malygos could be a problem (I don't have damage target spells that hit face but I could in the future) and it would restrict design space.
Although I do like ??? Portal, I feel several other people will do the same thing with a "3 portal", so it kind of loses its touch. I also don't know what place is in that portal.
Anything that makes sense as a Common, a Time Traveler card and a Karazhan card is perfectly fine with me, regardless of what it is or what it does.
Theater Symphonist - I've been rethinking this card, and its pretty crazy. You could potentially cast a big spell and draw it next turn. I'd suggest making this use up that spell, rather than cast a copy of it.
??? Portal could be Caverns of Time or Timeless Isle Portal. It and Medivh's Spellbook are my favorites of your suggestions. Perhaps you could include a removal spell, unless your OG set has one or more. Or a cheap spell (1 mana?) that lets you trigger Quick-Time this turn for cards in your hand.
Do you think that maybe the fact that you need to know that the top card of your deck is a spell you want to actually copy balances it out? You'll probably need to use your Hero Power quite a bit, as not many cards have that look at the top cards of your deck ability that the Hero Power does.
I do also just realize the Medivh's Spellbook into Medivh's Spellbook might be a little bit problematic (given how Primordial Glyph into Primordial Glyph is a thing). I was actually thinking of using the Quick-Time thing you said for a class Legendary (akin to Choose One with Fandral Staghelm), but I suppose a card in that form might not be a bad idea. Kind of an Auchenai Soulpriest - Embrace the Shadow connection.
My Old Gods set has no single target removal, so I guess that actually would be a good idea (it does have Time Twister though).
I am more or less set on my set (lul) but I want to create a coherent bundle to include in order to give it a theme.
Bundle #1 - Curve into your Old God (or DW)
This is the one I've shown before.
Kosumoth has been modified since last time.
Bundle #2 - Egg Package
Deathrattle was a subtheme of WOG, and eggs are a subtheme of my class.
Bundle #3 - Empty Deck
I went a little bit wild. People on the "lonely creative corner" don't really like it but what about you guys? If I don't do it this expansion, I will do it with KFT because I have a good DK idea related to this in store.
Obviously I would have to choose between Kosumoth and Cookie.
Bundle #4 - Random damage & synergy
Pls tell me which you prefer.
In addition to this, I've changed 2 cards.
Fantastic Feast
Big heals are more useful in the mid-game because they can counter aggro decks. This also incentivizes you to play and hold on Roast cards.
Top Chef
I figured out the first version is a worse Tracking 90% of the time. The second version costs 0 but the threshold has been raised to 6.
Only don't understand completely why these bundles? One has legendaries, the other one only commons. Is it to choose a theme kind of? Like Bundle #1. It's a cool idea to get to your 10 cost minions. Good to ready your C'Thun finisher. Makes def sense in this expansion. Bundle #2 is super cool, simple and flavourful. Def need some egg synergy in your class. Could also implement more of them. Bundle #3: Don't like the draw your entire deck mechanic. The customer is good though. (Was just a figure of speach because I was expecting some collective brainstorming or at least something to be able to comment on. But we figured it out.) Bundle #4: Also cool cards. Sauteed Silithid feels like a pretty basic mechanic. More like a common. The chef fits also very well. If I have to choose one Bundle #2 wins. (with a short look back at #1)
Fantastic Feast: Kinda don't like "fully heal your hero" mechanic. Reno was pretty restrictive and felt real crushing when you chumped your opponent down to few Health points and then healed to full in an instant. And with this heal to full two time for 6 mana? The Hangover cards are not so bad because you can still play cards in these turns and just play card draw. Do you think your class would be so slow that this card is justified? Would go for "Restore *2* Health to your hero for each card you Roasted this game." Something more conditional.
Top Chef: Both versions kinda weak, but think like the first one more. Maybe "Roast *2* cards. Add a copy of the highest Cost card to your hand." would be my idea. So draw would always be guaranteed and is still similar to Tracking.
Uh, so I'm stuck. Can you guys help me out. I can't think of a card I can use for my final slot.
Hey everyone, thanks again for your feedback. I've been away all weekend, and I know I've been bad about responding and helping others. Will be home soon and hoping to do better at that.
For Demonxz95 - What do you have so far? And most importantly, what kind of hole do you want to fill? Are you looking to make a big minion? Small minion? Summon spell? Keyword spell? Buff? Card useful for control? Agro?
All I need is my last common Karazhan card. Preferably, it would be cool to have a mid to high-cost spell (somewhere about 3+) to go along with Theatre Symphonist and the small spell theme of this set, but I'm fine with absolutely anything provided it makes sense within the class.
A few ideas I did previously have:
The first version of Invitation from Beyond was supposed to be kind of a tutor card and also works with Quick-Time with the flavor that the minion is "invited" over to your hand or battlefield (party). The second version has the same thematic, but works differently. It does feel like just a better Gather Your Party though.
Medivh's Spellbook I made mostly for the spell-thematic of Karazhan. The wording may seem a bit weird, but I worded it how I did because literally every single other card I have for this phase has at least 3 lines of text, so this seems like a breath of fresh air.
Chronoleap does play into the time travel and rearranging aspect quite a lot. Sinti did however point out Malygos could be a problem (I don't have damage target spells that hit face but I could in the future) and it would restrict design space.
Although I do like ??? Portal, I feel several other people will do the same thing with a "3 portal", so it kind of loses its touch. I also don't know what place is in that portal.
Anything that makes sense as a Common, a Time Traveler card and a Karazhan card is perfectly fine with me, regardless of what it is or what it does.
Theatre Symphonist: Would strongly dissuade you from this mechanic. (if this is correct english) This can just be way too strong and limits your design space massively. There is a reason why Grand Archivist costs 8 mana with a 5-drop body. And your version even casts a copy and is targetable. And think your class has enogh strong spells to abuse this or am I wrong? Alone casting your ??? Portal at turn 3 or 4 is pretty nuts together with a 3/2 body. Would say change the mechanic or make it a costlier card. Like 6 at least.
Child's Play: Pretty good. Probably can be strong. Don't like the name to much. More something like Miniature Bickering/Feud/Dispute/Parody/Games, Chess Time, Time for Games...
Do you want somebody to make your last card or am I getting it wrong? If so have to call quit on that, sry. With little more information of what you want to implement one could help more. Don't know if I should comment on the other cards.
In any case, I did literally make this like 2 minutes ago. Not explicitly Karazhan themed, but not terrible.
Compare to Mortal Coil and Quick Shot. Also happens to be the only damage spell in the entire class that can target face.
Sadly, only a Location card can really do the artwork the justice is deserves (seriously, I absolutely love this feature).
It is a little ambiguous. It could mean that it adds a copy of the minion it killed to your hand or a copy of the spell itself.
Agreed, the wording is ambiguous. Assuming it copies the minion, it's fine.
For Theatre Symphonist, it's tough to balance at its mana cost. Your class could look at future cards and weigh the odds, which makes it better. But, most of your cards aren't as dangerous as Mages or Warlocks. Less huge bursts of damage. For that reason, I'd say it's fine.
Very well then, if the wording is ambiguous, here is another version of Rift Bomb:
Now also slightly nerfed because it can no longer target face. You all guessed right, it add a copy of the killed minion to your hand. Burst damage is not really a thing in my class at all.
For Theatre Symphonist, I did think of making it a 5 mana 3/3 to maybe slow it down a little bit. I could also make it actually use up the spell instead of copying it like Grand Archivist (suggested by thepowrofcheese).
If it helps, here are all spells I have in my class that cost 5 or more so far:
There probably will be quite a few others along the way.
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Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
Demented Lackey
Child's Play
Power of Yogg-Saron
Murozond
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
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Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
Demented Lackey
Child's Play
Power of Yogg-Saron
Murozond
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
I'd suggest Theatre Symphonist to showcase. It's more complex than the other 2 and you can explain how your deck-viewing and altering cards work with it. Making her a (5) 3/3 that consumes the spell I think is a good call. After all, getting an extra spell like Black Hole or Mirror Match would be incredible for the right deck.
Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
Demented Lackey
Child's Play
Power of Yogg-Saron
Murozond
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
I personally like Temporal Storm, Timekiller, Dark Replication, Murozond, and Child's Play.
My entry for this competition is the Time Traveler class. This is a class themed all around... well, time which is represented in several different aspects of the class. The Hero Power of the class is Glimpse , which has you look at the top 3 cards of your deck and rearrange them in any order (if your deck has less than 3 cards when you activate this, it will simply show you less cards instead), allowing for strategically planning ahead a few turns because now you know what you're going to draw and being able to change and optimize your draws.
This class also introduces a new keyworded mechanic for the class, Quick-Time . Quick-Time effects activate if you play the card on the same turn it's added to your hand (either by drawing it or generating it, anything counts). In most other classes, this effect seems like it would be inconsistent and top-deck reliant. The Time Traveler class however has many ways to get around this, namely their Hero Power in which you can rearrange the cards you draw to make sure you draw the Quick-Time cards when you actually want to draw them. There are also some cards in the class which can makeQuick-Time cards even easier to activate.
UI for the Hero Power
Click and drag the cards around to change their order.
These cards can be found back on the Phase I post.
Speaking of which, let's look at 5 cards that showcase some aspects of the Time Traveler class.
For the (incredibly stupid) challenge, "Cult Following", we're buffing C'Thun in a way aside from just the traditional buffing of its stats. This is where Demented Lackey comes in. Upon playing Demented Lackey, you will reduce your C'Thun's Cost (which he will appreciate because he is a 10-cost card after all). If you can Quick-Time it though, you'll get a bigger discount. With 2 copies of this and the amount of copying effects Time Traveler has, you can potentially get a 0-cost C'Thun out of this. Pretty cool I know.
Whenever Barnes needs help for the music production of his plays, Theatre Symphonist is who he calls first and it's easy to see why. Like most of Karazhan, the songs of the Theatre Symphonist are magical and make all of the special effects of the performance all to real as represented by the ability. If the top card of your deck is a spell, she will cast it for you for free and unlike every other card with similar effects, you actually can choose the target of the spell if it has one. Strategic planning with your deck order is key and can lead to some really powerful moments to swing the game. It is important to note that the effect is like Grand Archivist in which the Battlecry actually uses up the spell. It doesn't copy it.
Meanwhile still in Karazhan, we see Time Travelers playing an interesting game of chess. Chess takes a lot of time and Time Travelers can of course see what will happen next so it makes sense. The chess in Karazhan is already pretty crazy, but Time Travelers tend to take it to a whole new level. Instead of having players ride the pieces, the players BECOME the pieces. The spell card, Child's Play gives Time Travelers a 1/1 copy (or a pawn) of all minions they control that cost (1). Useful for repeating Battlecries, Quick-Time effects, I'm sure you know what to do with this card.
The corruption of the Old Gods, more specifically Yogg-Saron strike again at the Time Travelers to give them a pretty interesting card. Power of Yogg-Saron is a spell that focuses on... the power of Yogg-Saron (duh). As long as you keep spending the 1 mana for the 1 damage each turn, you will keep getting this back in your hand and continue to power up Yogg-Saron, Hope's End and of course, pinging off enemies is always useful.
We're not done with the corruption though because in WotOG, Time Travelers get Murozond, the corrupted counterpart of Nozdormu, as their Legendary. Just like it's uncorrupted counterpart, Murozond focuses on aspect of time and manipulation thereof. Unliked Nozdormu however, it doesn't restrict time or cause some intended bugs and side-effects, so it's all good. No worries here. When you play Murozond, he will record how the battlefield looks at the moment you play him and put that into the Hourglass of Time. Upon playing that, you will replace the battlefield with how it looked when you played Murozond (so yes, Murozond will be on the field when you use the hourglass). This doesn't trigger Deathrattles either, instead it simply just removes it and replaces it. When you highlight over the Hourglass of Time token, you will get a pop-up of how the battlefield will look when you play it, similar to how the DK Hero cards give you a pop-up of their Hero Power when you highlight over them.
Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
Demented Lackey
Child's Play
Power of Yogg-Saron
Murozond
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
I personally like Temporal Storm, Timekiller, Dark Replication, Murozond, and Child's Play.
I'm sorry I didn't see this. It takes a REALLY long time to write submission posts (or in this case, draft of them).
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@Demonx: The statline on Hollow Knight still sucks but apart from that it looks good.
As for me, I am almost decided on what cards I want to submit. I am 90% certain of all of those cards except Omelette Chef and Onyx Pawn [which has the effect of the previously shown Drakonid Knacker]. I went with the Julienne Cut that summons two copies despite the fact that the other version had slightly more positive feedback because this version can allow some crazy shenanigans with deathrattle minions.
I did include Kosumoth (which received mostly good feedback) I dind't find room for Haute Cuisine (which some said was redundant with Kosumoth) and Sautéed Silithid. Broeck told me I should include Haute Cuisine anyway. What do you think.
For the record, here are the cards that received positive feedback but didn't make the cut. I may still include them if I have negative feedback about this set.
I will include the queen in MSG and the Starving Custom in KFT if they don't make the cut now.
@Demonx: The statline on Hollow Knight still sucks but apart from that it looks good.
As for me, I am almost decided on what cards I want to submit. I am 90% certain of all of those cards except Omelette Chef and Onyx Pawn [which has the effect of the previously shown Drakonid Knacker]. I went with the Julienne Cut that summons two copies despite the fact that the other version had slightly more positive feedback because this version can allow some crazy shenanigans with deathrattle minions.
I did include Kosumoth (which received mostly good feedback) I dind't find room for Haute Cuisine (which some said was redundant with Kosumoth) and Sautéed Silithid. Broeck told me I should include Haute Cuisine anyway. What do you think.
For the record, here are the cards that received positive feedback but didn't make the cut. I may still include them if I have negative feedback about this set.
I will include the queen in MSG and the Starving Custom in KFT if they don't make the cut now.
So, overall?
I went with 7/4 because all of the C'Thun cards have different statlines. For example in the 5 mana slot, 5/6 and 6/5 are already used (Usher of Souls and Twilight Darkmender), so I'm using something different. Having 2 C'Thun cards with the same statline would feel very wrong to me and I don't want to do that. This is why I went with 3 mana 4/3 for Demented Lackey. It's different than what other C'Thun cards use. I suppose I could go with 4/7 instead. No C'Thun card uses 5 mana 4/7. I also balanced it around the statline back when its effect was just outright killing a minion instead of dealing damage.
Your set looks pretty good, although personally I would be in favoring of replacing Top Chef with Haute Cuisine. I just like it better and I think it does have some different niches than Kosumoth does.
In terms of showcase cards, my choices are:
Twilight Cookbook
Harsh Food Critic
Fantastic Feast
Haute Cuisine if you decided to replace Top Chef with it. Otherwise, Omelette Chef.
I love Omelette Chef, and I like Onyx Pawn for the roast synergy. You're taking the class in the right direction with these sets, I'd say submit them. :)
Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
Demented Lackey
Child's Play
Power of Yogg-Saron
Murozond
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
I personally like Temporal Storm, Timekiller, Dark Replication, Murozond, and Child's Play.
I'm sorry I didn't see this. It takes a REALLY long time to write submission posts (or in this case, draft of them).
lmao no worries i totally feel you. Looks good though! Good luck ma dude
In response to people saying Hollow Knight's statline is bad, I have two new versions of Hollow Knight.
5 mana 4/7 vs 6 mana 6/7. The Boulderfist Ogre statline is honestly something I want to see again and I think a Boulderfist Ogre with an upside effect is perfectly acceptable. I mean, Sea Reavertechnically counts as a Boulderfist Ogre with an upside.
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@Demonx: The statline on Hollow Knight still sucks but apart from that it looks good.
As for me, I am almost decided on what cards I want to submit. I am 90% certain of all of those cards except Omelette Chef and Onyx Pawn [which has the effect of the previously shown Drakonid Knacker]. I went with the Julienne Cut that summons two copies despite the fact that the other version had slightly more positive feedback because this version can allow some crazy shenanigans with deathrattle minions.
I did include Kosumoth (which received mostly good feedback) I dind't find room for Haute Cuisine (which some said was redundant with Kosumoth) and Sautéed Silithid. Broeck told me I should include Haute Cuisine anyway. What do you think.
For the record, here are the cards that received positive feedback but didn't make the cut. I may still include them if I have negative feedback about this set.
I will include the queen in MSG and the Starving Custom in KFT if they don't make the cut now.
So, overall?
One more thing with regards to C'Thun. Except for Kossumoth the roast mechanic runs quite a bit at odds with a C'Thun deck as you could easily roast it. Perhaps your C'Thun card could look at recovering it in that event? Not absolutely necessary as you have twilight cookbook but something to think about.
I went with 7/4 because all of the C'Thun cards have different statlines. For example in the 5 mana slot, 5/6 and 6/5 are already used (Usher of Souls and Twilight Darkmender), so I'm using something different. Having 2 C'Thun cards with the same statline would feel very wrong to me and I don't want to do that. This is why I went with 3 mana 4/3 for Demented Lackey. It's different than what other C'Thun cards use. I suppose I could go with 4/7 instead. No C'Thun card uses 5 mana 4/7. I also balanced it around the statline back when its effect was just outright killing a minion instead of dealing damage.
Your set looks pretty good, although personally I would be in favoring of replacing Top Chef with Haute Cuisine. I just like it better and I think it does have some different niches than Kosumoth does.
In terms of showcase cards, my choices are:
Twilight Cookbook
Harsh Food Critic
Fantastic Feast
Haute Cuisine if you decided to replace Top Chef with it. Otherwise, Omelette Chef.
I love Omelette Chef, and I like Onyx Pawn for the roast synergy. You're taking the class in the right direction with these sets, I'd say submit them. :)
One more thing with regards to C'Thun. Except for Kossumoth the roast mechanic runs quite a bit at odds with a C'Thun deck as you could easily roast it. Perhaps your C'Thun card could look at recovering it in that event? Not absolutely necessary as you have twilight cookbook but something to think about.
@Tomerick: I actually thought about it. There's only one indiscriminate Roast card in my set that a C'Thun deck would play (Harsh Food Critic). It only Roasts one card and if by pure unluck it happens to be C'Thun you have the Cookbook or 2 cards from my classic set to retrieve it. Originally I wanted HFC to always avoid roasting C'Thun but the card text looked ugly.
@Demonx: Yes, 6/7 is better. I will have a think about Haute Cuisine but I'm unlikely to replace Top Chef which I really like.
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
In any case, I did literally make this like 2 minutes ago. Not explicitly Karazhan themed, but not terrible.
Compare to Mortal Coil and Quick Shot. Also happens to be the only damage spell in the entire class that can target face.
Sadly, only a Location card can really do the artwork the justice is deserves (seriously, I absolutely love this feature).
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
Like Bundle #1. It's a cool idea to get to your 10 cost minions. Good to ready your C'Thun finisher. Makes def sense in this expansion.
Bundle #2 is super cool, simple and flavourful. Def need some egg synergy in your class. Could also implement more of them.
Bundle #3: Don't like the draw your entire deck mechanic. The customer is good though. (Was just a figure of speach because I was expecting some collective brainstorming or at least something to be able to comment on. But we figured it out.)
Bundle #4: Also cool cards. Sauteed Silithid feels like a pretty basic mechanic. More like a common. The chef fits also very well.
If I have to choose one Bundle #2 wins. (with a short look back at #1)
Feels little weird because it only interacts with minions but can target face. Its a fine card not much to say about it if it fits your theme.
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Very well then, if the wording is ambiguous, here is another version of Rift Bomb:
Now also slightly nerfed because it can no longer target face. You all guessed right, it add a copy of the killed minion to your hand. Burst damage is not really a thing in my class at all.
For Theatre Symphonist, I did think of making it a 5 mana 3/3 to maybe slow it down a little bit. I could also make it actually use up the spell instead of copying it like Grand Archivist (suggested by thepowrofcheese).
If it helps, here are all spells I have in my class that cost 5 or more so far:
There probably will be quite a few others along the way.
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Well, regardless, what should my showcase cards be?
Because I like to have each rarity represented, I would like to have at least 1 Karazhan card and want to have Quick-Time in my showcase, I currently have:
The remaining spot is the hardest. Currently, I have my mind set on Theatre Symphonist, Rift Bomb and Dark Replication as the last showcase card. I won't be choosing Time Twister because I showcased it in Phase I and it's in the picture that showcases how the Hero Power UI works.
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Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
So, here I go with my submission post. How does this look?
Click here to go back to my Phase I post.
Click here to go back to my Phase II post.
Click here to go back to my Phase III post.
My entry for this competition is the Time Traveler class. This is a class themed all around... well, time which is represented in several different aspects of the class. The Hero Power of the class is Glimpse , which has you look at the top 3 cards of your deck and rearrange them in any order (if your deck has less than 3 cards when you activate this, it will simply show you less cards instead), allowing for strategically planning ahead a few turns because now you know what you're going to draw and being able to change and optimize your draws.
This class also introduces a new keyworded mechanic for the class, Quick-Time . Quick-Time effects activate if you play the card on the same turn it's added to your hand (either by drawing it or generating it, anything counts). In most other classes, this effect seems like it would be inconsistent and top-deck reliant. The Time Traveler class however has many ways to get around this, namely their Hero Power in which you can rearrange the cards you draw to make sure you draw the Quick-Time cards when you actually want to draw them. There are also some cards in the class which can makeQuick-Time cards even easier to activate.
UI for the Hero Power
Click and drag the cards around to change their order.
These cards can be found back on the Phase I post.
Speaking of which, let's look at 5 cards that showcase some aspects of the Time Traveler class.
For the (incredibly stupid) challenge, "Cult Following", we're buffing C'Thun in a way aside from just the traditional buffing of its stats. This is where Demented Lackey comes in. Upon playing Demented Lackey, you will reduce your C'Thun's Cost (which he will appreciate because he is a 10-cost card after all). If you can Quick-Time it though, you'll get a bigger discount. With 2 copies of this and the amount of copying effects Time Traveler has, you can potentially get a 0-cost C'Thun out of this. Pretty cool I know.
Whenever Barnes needs help for the music production of his plays, Theatre Symphonist is who he calls first and it's easy to see why. Like most of Karazhan, the songs of the Theatre Symphonist are magical and make all of the special effects of the performance all to real as represented by the ability. If the top card of your deck is a spell, she will cast it for you for free and unlike every other card with similar effects, you actually can choose the target of the spell if it has one. Strategic planning with your deck order is key and can lead to some really powerful moments to swing the game. It is important to note that the effect is like Grand Archivist in which the Battlecry actually uses up the spell. It doesn't copy it.
Meanwhile still in Karazhan, we see Time Travelers playing an interesting game of chess. Chess takes a lot of time and Time Travelers can of course see what will happen next so it makes sense. The chess in Karazhan is already pretty crazy, but Time Travelers tend to take it to a whole new level. Instead of having players ride the pieces, the players BECOME the pieces. The spell card, Child's Play gives Time Travelers a 1/1 copy (or a pawn) of all minions they control that cost (1). Useful for repeating Battlecries, Quick-Time effects, I'm sure you know what to do with this card.
The corruption of the Old Gods, more specifically Yogg-Saron strike again at the Time Travelers to give them a pretty interesting card. Power of Yogg-Saron is a spell that focuses on... the power of Yogg-Saron (duh). As long as you keep spending the 1 mana for the 1 damage each turn, you will keep getting this back in your hand and continue to power up Yogg-Saron, Hope's End and of course, pinging off enemies is always useful.
We're not done with the corruption though because in WotOG, Time Travelers get Murozond, the corrupted counterpart of Nozdormu, as their Legendary. Just like it's uncorrupted counterpart, Murozond focuses on aspect of time and manipulation thereof. Unliked Nozdormu however, it doesn't restrict time or cause some intended bugs and side-effects, so it's all good. No worries here. When you play Murozond, he will record how the battlefield looks at the moment you play him and put that into the Hourglass of Time. Upon playing that, you will replace the battlefield with how it looked when you played Murozond (so yes, Murozond will be on the field when you use the hourglass). This doesn't trigger Deathrattles either, instead it simply just removes it and replaces it. When you highlight over the Hourglass of Time token, you will get a pop-up of how the battlefield will look when you play it, similar to how the DK Hero cards give you a pop-up of their Hero Power when you highlight over them.
Hourglass of Time token:
Remaining WotOG and ONiK cards:
Note: Timekiller is a corrupted version of Timewalker from the Classic set:
Classic set:
Basic set:
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@Demonx: The statline on Hollow Knight still sucks but apart from that it looks good.
As for me, I am almost decided on what cards I want to submit. I am 90% certain of all of those cards except Omelette Chef and Onyx Pawn [which has the effect of the previously shown Drakonid Knacker]. I went with the Julienne Cut that summons two copies despite the fact that the other version had slightly more positive feedback because this version can allow some crazy shenanigans with deathrattle minions.
I did include Kosumoth (which received mostly good feedback) I dind't find room for Haute Cuisine (which some said was redundant with Kosumoth) and Sautéed Silithid. Broeck told me I should include Haute Cuisine anyway. What do you think.
For the record, here are the cards that received positive feedback but didn't make the cut. I may still include them if I have negative feedback about this set.
I will include the queen in MSG and the Starving Custom in KFT if they don't make the cut now.
So, overall?
Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)
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I love Omelette Chef, and I like Onyx Pawn for the roast synergy. You're taking the class in the right direction with these sets, I'd say submit them. :)
please consider voting for my custom class in the fan creations competition :]
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In response to people saying Hollow Knight's statline is bad, I have two new versions of Hollow Knight.
5 mana 4/7 vs 6 mana 6/7. The Boulderfist Ogre statline is honestly something I want to see again and I think a Boulderfist Ogre with an upside effect is perfectly acceptable. I mean, Sea Reaver technically counts as a Boulderfist Ogre with an upside.
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Custom cards :
CLASSES : Alchemist (CCC#5 | Phase V) | Chef (CCC#4)
EXPANSIONS : Year of the Scorpion (Year Comp)