Hello everybody! This topic is for discussion of the "Expanding Horizons" Expansion Creation Competition. One of the awesome things about our Fan Creation Forum Competition is that it gets us all talking about what makes a card or a class balanced, fun, realistic, interesting, unique, innovative, exciting, and more. However, to make sure that everything runs smoothly, we need to reserve the Submission Topic for submissions only. Everything else goes here. What is everything else, you might ask?
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So, without further ado, have fun and get creating!
Well, I'm out. Good luck and congrats to everyone. I'll try to finish my expansion by posting the remaining class cards on a separate thread during the expansion and try to give opinions on the remaining competitor. Here's what I have so far:
Mechanic:
Hunter: Plant / Secret synergy:
Token:
Mage: Freeze synergy / minions with the same name / Elemental synergy:
Shatter Image summons the minions from Mirror Image.
Forest Protector isn't a Plant because then she will be too hard to remove if you chain summoning her.
Rare:
Epic:
Legendary
Tae'thelan is the leader of the Reliquary, a Horde rival to the League of Explorer. Similar yet different in many ways, while the League focusing on creating more resources such as Elise adding cards, Brann and Finley drawing and Reno is healing, Tae'thelan can also create more resources but also capable of disrupt his enemy's play.
Congrats to those who made it, and to those who didn't - we're definitely gonna miss you guys. Hoping you stay around to give input here and there!!! <3 Every one of you should be incredibly proud of what you achieved with this... it's been SUCH a difficult competition. HUGS!!!
There were so few votes last phase. The poll for this phase starts at August 13th, while the new expansion comes online at August 10th. I assume there won't be many votes again. Can we put it off for some days to avoid that?
I'm willing to bet that some of the people who voted me only voted me because I perfectly predicted Eternal Servitude (minus the rarity). I'm really surprised I got third in this. I didn't come here with many ideas. I'll post them fairly soon.
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Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
Is anyone else having issues with Imgur deciding to just rearrange the pics in your album without any warning? Every time I log on or add cards to it, all the existing ones shuffle. It's incredibly frustrating. I didn't have this issue with the album for the previous class contest.
Frustrating, but I'm out. The poll splitting and 4 days of voting feels like a bad format for this. The first poll had twice as many views and votes, so I've lost to people who received as few as 6 votes. I mean, I only got 11 votes, so I'm not trying to shit on anyone. I think it's just clear that public interest in the competition drops dramatically as we continue on, and makes me question the elimination format quite a bit.
Still, congrats to everyone! I'll stop by and offer some feedback when I can. I'll probably keep developing my stuff on my own elsewhere. Unlike the class competition, I still feel good about the overall direction of my project. Time to re-evaluate and consider paths forward.
On the bright side, I'm now free to create new ways of displaying my set! This was a simple test of the 'Contact Sheet' feature in photoshop, I want to play around with more narrative ways of display the set too. So on a final note, here's my set phase 1-3, all lined out in one nice big graphic. Click it to expand.
There were so few votes last phase. The poll for this phase starts at August 13th, while the new expansion comes online at August 10th. I assume there won't be many votes again. Can we put it off for some days to avoid that?
I've actually already extended the submission period and the poll period beyond what they were originally going to be, both to realign it with the WCDC and to make it so that the poll would start after expansion release - hopefully with the expansion released, it'll be easier to find time to promote the poll on the front page.
And of course Nobravery has ALREADY made his submission.
In fact, I've already finished the whole expansion and I'm working on the cards outside the 84 cards limitation to make it into a normal expansion...
But I still have chance to edit some of the cards (do I?), and I am still concerning about balance issues of some cards.
Of course! None of the cards in your next submission would be considered final until the thread is locked. But since you already posted, I wouldn't change anything drastically if you could avoid it.
Wording on Grimforst Guardian is kinda weird. I don't really know a better way to word it. The Wisps from Eerie Wisples would just be regular Wisps and not any special artwork like Wisps of the Old Gods.
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This token I plan to use in the future for a card. Brownie points if you get the reference
For my third card, I'm thinking of either Hunter or Paladin.
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Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
For the Grimefrost Guardian, how about this wording (and how it looks on the card):
(As an aside, with that effect, I'd recommend making it a 4/6, or bump it up to 6 Mana, unless it's your only Druid card on the power curve of, say, Drakonid Operative, and I say this recognizing that Dragon Priest is still on the fringes)
How easy would it be for Warrior to accumulate Void Orbs? Because, as it stands, they only need to spend 1 to make Void Hammer right on the curve. Spend 2, and you've got an Arcanite Reaper that costs (1) less. Starting with a base 2 Attack would be more fair.
I'm also not sure about your draft of the Warrior healing card. Is that a theme for your expansion's take on Warrior? If not, then it runs counter to pretty much every other card in the Warrior's library that works around damaged minions (Battle Rage, Sudden Genesis, Rampage, Crush, and every Enrage minion. And, again, I say that recognizing that Warriors only tend to use one, maybe two of those cards). Mechanically, it sounds like an interesting combo effect, play Sudden Genesis, and then this minion, but it doesn't feel like it should belong in Warrior, since it runs so counter to the class's identity.
Darkrose Scythe...is that a RWBY reference? Remnant: Where every weapon is also a gun.
Between the two classes to work on, I'd recommend Hunter. Makes a good contrast to Druid and Warrior.
Wording on Grimforst Guardian is kinda weird. I don't really know a better way to word it. The Wisps from Eerie Wisples would just be regular Wisps and not any special artwork like Wisps of the Old Gods.
UNUSED TOKEN:
This token I plan to use in the future for a card. Brownie points if you get the reference
For my third card, I'm thinking of either Hunter or Paladin.
I also haven't done too much prep for this round, but I think we have enough time. Grimforest Guardian should say "give your Hero that much Attack this turn; or gain that much Armor" but that might be too wordy. Soul Hammer might also be a bit too strong. Hard to make it real good on curve, but it could be a 4 mana 13/2 weapon late game.
I'd agree on picking Hunter. Paladin is very similar to both Druid and Warrior. Or pick a caster class if you can.
And I, too, share a reference in my set. Which unfortunately is very similar to someone else's Warlock card.
Congratulations to all who have made it thus far! (Although, I'm sad that some of my favourite expansions didn't make it...) I would also like to congratulate those who, despite not making it to phase IV, made it to phase III, and that is no small feat! You have worked on your expansions with countless hours of work with effort and love, and that should be commended with the greatest of respect.
Regardless, for those who are left standing, we're at the final phase before the big showdown, so everything here is the tipping point between getting that shiny border and title and UTTER HUMILIATION AND FAILURE (no pressure). Six of us will be eliminated, and four of us will survive to the final round. Let's make it count team. WE CAN DO THIS!
EDIT: I just realised I got first place somehow. So all eyes are on me. FFFFF...
Glad to see my Loa guys on the top 10! Thanks for your votes and feeedback. It's time to work on my Hunter, Mage and Shaman cards (I'm showing one class of each Gargetzan Group for phase) :)
PS: I'm so close to get that awesome golden border xD
This is the Discussion Topic. The Submission Topic is here.
(Please read the Submission Topic first.)
The people moving on to Phase IV are...
Hello everybody! This topic is for discussion of the "Expanding Horizons" Expansion Creation Competition. One of the awesome things about our Fan Creation Forum Competition is that it gets us all talking about what makes a card or a class balanced, fun, realistic, interesting, unique, innovative, exciting, and more. However, to make sure that everything runs smoothly, we need to reserve the Submission Topic for submissions only. Everything else goes here. What is everything else, you might ask?
All of that said, please refrain from the following:
So, without further ado, have fun and get creating!
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
Welp, didn't make it, pretty much as I expected :P
Good luck to everyone still here, I look forward to seeing your cards for the next phase!
Why Rogue is my favourite class:
My submission for this week's card design competition.
Congratulations to everyone who made it through!
Also, Shadow, the link to the Submission thread sends you to the last phase's thread.
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Congratulations to our top 10. Let the card crafting continue, and let's workshop them to perfection.
...Or see who takes the nobravery/ThisOtherGuyTox route and submits at the starting pistol. That's actually paid dividends.
Well, I'm out. Good luck and congrats to everyone. I'll try to finish my expansion by posting the remaining class cards on a separate thread during the expansion and try to give opinions on the remaining competitor. Here's what I have so far:
Mechanic:
Hunter: Plant / Secret synergy:
Token:
Mage: Freeze synergy / minions with the same name / Elemental synergy:
Shatter Image summons the minions from Mirror Image.
Token:
Shaman: Elemental / Totem synergy:
Water Elemental, Stoneclaw Totem, Wrath of Air Totem
Warlock: Discard / Hero Damage synergy:
Token:
The Neutral set:
Commons:
Elven Archer
Forest Protector isn't a Plant because then she will be too hard to remove if you chain summoning her.
Rare:
Epic:
Legendary
Tae'thelan is the leader of the Reliquary, a Horde rival to the League of Explorer. Similar yet different in many ways, while the League focusing on creating more resources such as Elise adding cards, Brann and Finley drawing and Reno is healing, Tae'thelan can also create more resources but also capable of disrupt his enemy's play.
Token from Ancient Seed:
Click here to visit my Timestream Tracking Finalist Year of the Dragon in collaboration with Demonxz95
Class Creation Finalist: The Astromancer
Best cards vote by community:
Congrats to those who made it, and to those who didn't - we're definitely gonna miss you guys. Hoping you stay around to give input here and there!!! <3 Every one of you should be incredibly proud of what you achieved with this... it's been SUCH a difficult competition. HUGS!!!
"The Slayer" custom class
"The Great Thaw" expansion competition finalist
There were so few votes last phase. The poll for this phase starts at August 13th, while the new expansion comes online at August 10th. I assume there won't be many votes again. Can we put it off for some days to avoid that?
THERE IS NO GAME.
I'm willing to bet that some of the people who voted me only voted me because I perfectly predicted Eternal Servitude (minus the rarity). I'm really surprised I got third in this. I didn't come here with many ideas. I'll post them fairly soon.
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
Is anyone else having issues with Imgur deciding to just rearrange the pics in your album without any warning? Every time I log on or add cards to it, all the existing ones shuffle. It's incredibly frustrating. I didn't have this issue with the album for the previous class contest.
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Frustrating, but I'm out. The poll splitting and 4 days of voting feels like a bad format for this. The first poll had twice as many views and votes, so I've lost to people who received as few as 6 votes. I mean, I only got 11 votes, so I'm not trying to shit on anyone. I think it's just clear that public interest in the competition drops dramatically as we continue on, and makes me question the elimination format quite a bit.
Still, congrats to everyone! I'll stop by and offer some feedback when I can. I'll probably keep developing my stuff on my own elsewhere. Unlike the class competition, I still feel good about the overall direction of my project. Time to re-evaluate and consider paths forward.
On the bright side, I'm now free to create new ways of displaying my set! This was a simple test of the 'Contact Sheet' feature in photoshop, I want to play around with more narrative ways of display the set too. So on a final note, here's my set phase 1-3, all lined out in one nice big graphic. Click it to expand.
And of course Nobravery has ALREADY made his submission.
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
THERE IS NO GAME.
You can find me here! Good luck everyone!
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Okay, so I didn't really prepare myself for this:
Wording on Grimforst Guardian is kinda weird. I don't really know a better way to word it. The Wisps from Eerie Wisples would just be regular Wisps and not any special artwork like Wisps of the Old Gods.
UNUSED TOKEN:
This token I plan to use in the future for a card. Brownie points if you get the reference
For my third card, I'm thinking of either Hunter or Paladin.
Click the image to go to my custom Time Traveler class.
For the Grimefrost Guardian, how about this wording (and how it looks on the card):
(As an aside, with that effect, I'd recommend making it a 4/6, or bump it up to 6 Mana, unless it's your only Druid card on the power curve of, say, Drakonid Operative, and I say this recognizing that Dragon Priest is still on the fringes)
How easy would it be for Warrior to accumulate Void Orbs? Because, as it stands, they only need to spend 1 to make Void Hammer right on the curve. Spend 2, and you've got an Arcanite Reaper that costs (1) less. Starting with a base 2 Attack would be more fair.
I'm also not sure about your draft of the Warrior healing card. Is that a theme for your expansion's take on Warrior? If not, then it runs counter to pretty much every other card in the Warrior's library that works around damaged minions (Battle Rage, Sudden Genesis, Rampage, Crush, and every Enrage minion. And, again, I say that recognizing that Warriors only tend to use one, maybe two of those cards). Mechanically, it sounds like an interesting combo effect, play Sudden Genesis, and then this minion, but it doesn't feel like it should belong in Warrior, since it runs so counter to the class's identity.
Darkrose Scythe...is that a RWBY reference? Remnant: Where every weapon is also a gun.
Between the two classes to work on, I'd recommend Hunter. Makes a good contrast to Druid and Warrior.
Currently working on the Tinker! K&C and WW / JUG and KotFT / Classic / Basic / Introduction
My Previous Classes: Apothecary (unfinished) / Chronomancer / Death Knight (old)
My Previous Expansions: Hallow's End
Congratulations to all who have made it thus far! (Although, I'm sad that some of my favourite expansions didn't make it...) I would also like to congratulate those who, despite not making it to phase IV, made it to phase III, and that is no small feat! You have worked on your expansions with countless hours of work with effort and love, and that should be commended with the greatest of respect.
Regardless, for those who are left standing, we're at the final phase before the big showdown, so everything here is the tipping point between getting that shiny border and title and UTTER HUMILIATION AND FAILURE (no pressure). Six of us will be eliminated, and four of us will survive to the final round. Let's make it count team. WE CAN DO THIS!
EDIT: I just realised I got first place somehow. So all eyes are on me. FFFFF...
Congratz to everyone who advanced to the next phase. It was a close one, but all of the people i voted for made it through...
All except one...
R.I.P @CecilHoshino. (And everyone else who diden't make it.)
I want a new title, but Flux won't let me have one,
Glad to see my Loa guys on the top 10! Thanks for your votes and feeedback. It's time to work on my Hunter, Mage and Shaman cards (I'm showing one class of each Gargetzan Group for phase) :)
PS: I'm so close to get that awesome golden border xD