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#1 Jul 25, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Greetings, Hearthpwn!

Like we've done before, due to the complexity of this competition we have split the final poll into two. The other half will go up in a couple days. Below are nine of the entries looking to advance. Their mechanics and example cards are shown, plus, if anything piques your interest, feel free to click on their titles to view their full set.

Of note, all of these cards were created before the recent KFT card announcements, so any similarities are purely coincidental.

The Destination is Draenor by ThisOtherGuyTox (post #2)





Arcane Art Assembly of Azeroth by nobravery (post #3)



Explanation of the Chair Millhouse mechanic

The role Chair Millhouse plays in this expansion is similar to that of C'Thun in WOG. The card is given to players for free, and if you want to build a deck around it, you need several other cards that refer to Chair Millhouse by name.

Secrets of Dalaran by Cogito_Ergo_Sum (post #11)



Mechanic Explanation

Enchant: When you play a card with Enchant, it will immediately give the next minion you DRAW (not summon nor play) a little bonus! Careful though! You may not draw the Enchanted card, so build your deck wisely!

Stabilize: Since Battlecries occur WHEN minions are played (not after), Battlecries will occur even if you can't pay the Stabilize cost! Note that Elementals with Stabilize will trigger "If you played an Elemental last turn" effects EVEN if you didn't pay the Stabilize cost because you technically did play the Elemental!

Stabilize is all about playing with your mana expenditure in order to get the optimial result! Sometimes you need to force yourself to pay the Stabilize cost to get the minion's body, but sometimes you don't want to pay it in order to just get the Battlecry/Deathrattle effect for the cheapest cost in order to play other important cards as well. This can open up for a lot of skilled plays as the usual ordering of cards is largely tampered by creating the optimal result from Stabilize cards.

Dragonspiral by ZardozSpeaks (post #17)

Dragongrave Explanation

The Dragongrave is a communal graveyard for all dragons that are played during the match. When a dragon is destroyed in the battlefield or discarded from the hand or deck, a portal graphic opens on the battlefield and the card is sucked into it. Just like your deck, you can't look at the Dragongrave during the match, so a player must track what cards are in it. Some cards are able to destroy minions in the Dragongrave.

The Hunter, Shaman and Warlock classes all make use of the Dragongrave mechanic, drawing, activating and destroy the dragons within it.

The Dragongrave mechanic doesn't affect other similar ressurection abilities, like those of N'zoth the Corrupter or Onyx Priest. Such cards work identically to how they worked before.

An Emerald Night's Dream by BatteredBlackCoat (post #13)



Mechanic Explanation

Shifting is a new kind of random effect. When you're holding a Shifting card, the random result will be shown in its card text; and the result changes after you play a card. In this way, the random effect becomes partially controllable to players.
Example:

Token is a mechanic that already exists in game, but it is not yet widely explored. The only existing card that utilizes the mechanic is Open the Waygate. Note that this mechanic is NOT limited to cards in your hand, but also applies to minions on board, such as Imp and Treant.

Showdown at the Battlegrounds by Broek1 (post #9)

Alliance uses a mechanic called Sequencing. It offers an extra when a card is played as the X'th card a turn.

Horde uses a mechanic called Ordering. It offers a extra to the next Horde minion you play.



Sequencing and Ordering Explanation

In Showdown at the Battlegrounds cards will interact with Horde and Alliance faction symbols showed on the upper left corner on minion cards. These interactions can either be positive or negative depending on what faction is used. Interactions are based on rivalry between factions and teamwork within factions. Both factions have a unique mechanic:

Alliance uses a mechanic called Sequencing. It offers an extra when a card is played as the X'th card a turn.

Horde uses a mechanic called Ordering. It offers a extra to the next Horde minion you play.

Collapse of the Caverns by ShadowsOfSense (post #8)



Mechanic Explanation:

Echo is pretty self-explanatory - the counterpart to Reno decks, this mechanic encourages including duplicates to gain bonus effects, or even entirely different ones.

Revert is a little more complicated. When a transformation is removed, the minion returns to what it began as - Shifter Zerus becomes a 1/1 again, Druid of the Claw becomes an un-Taunted 4/4. We will presume this would be tracked correctly. Enchantments are those little pieces of text that show under a card when its been buffed or debuffed - the +1/+1 from Shattered Sun Cleric, the reduction to 1 Attack by Humility, they all have names and they would all be removed. I'm also going to include Silence as an Enchantment, because I want to, and I think this is a perfect way of introducing 'un-Silencing' without breaking things. This wouldn't restore Health, but if your minion's damaged Health was above its starting Health, then it'll Revert to full Health, because that's how it works when an Aura is removed or an effect Silenced. Get all that? It's much simpler in practice, I promise.

Rebuilding The Outland by Shatterstar1998 (post #6)

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Study: To rebuild something, you first must understand it! The Study mechanic is introduced in this expansion as the Explorer's League and the Reliquary study the local creatures to have a better knowledge on how to understand them in order to rebuild this broken land. Study allows you more potency in your card in exchange for delay yourselves from playing them. In order for the player to keep track of the Study turn, the card will show the Study turn when you hover over it. When the X reached (0), the Study keyword will disappear and the effect will appear as normal. An example can be seen below:

Shaping: The creatures at the Outland along with the people who come to rebuild the place are highly unstable. All of them are capable to Shaping themselves or others into something else. Each turn the card is in your hand, their form becomes more unstable to the point of a certain time, they will transform into a different form. Similar but yet different in many ways to the Study mechanic, Shaping allows more flexibility in how to build your deck as minions with Shaping can be used both as their original form or their transformed form. The visual for this effect is similar to the Study keyword. However, because Hearthstone is at foremost designed to be simple and new players friendly, therefore any cards whose Shaping effect that named a specific card will be limited to three sources: Cards from the expansion itself, a new / established token like Ancient of Wonder or cards from the Classic and Expert set.

It should be noted that the countdown on Study and Shaping starts the turn AFTER your mulligan.

Another mechanic that will be introduced in this expansion is Side Quest: This mechanic is similar in many ways to the Quest: They present an objective for the players to complete. However, unlike Quests, they do NOT start in your opening hand. Most of the Side Quests are much easier to complete but their reward are also less game-winning and permanent. They cost 2 mana and can also be completed alongside your main Quest but, like Secret, you can only have 1 Side Quest with the same name at once. The good news is that they are Epic cards, which mean you can choose to include and complete two Side Quest in one game!

New Tribes! The Plant are now officially a Tribe for this expansion. A list of Plant that already existed in Hearthstone can be seen here. They will have synergy with each other whether as they on the field, summon another Plant and even have their own tutor effect!

Emblem of Fire by Cecil Hoshino (post #18)

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Mechanics Explanations:

In this Nexus of Heroes, battles are settled between units and armies, rather than individual heroes. And in these battles, speed is king. Swift functions like First Strike in other card games like Magic: The Gathering, where, if a minion with Swift attacks or is attacked by something that has less Health than it has Attack, it can potentially come out of battle unscathed. Rush functions like the subset of Charge that Blizzard has brushed against with cards like Charged Devilsaur or the latest version of the Charge spell card. Minion based combat is where the developers have said the game is most fun, and this expansion looks to facilitate that.
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#2 Jul 25, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Well, my Warrior set was GOING to be about effects that trigger on your opponent's turn, but it looks like Blizzard's KoFT expansion already covers that.

Also, I'm facing some of the toughest competitors.

And I just forgot my keys in my car.

It's a Wonderful Life! XD

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#3 Jul 25, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Why is the order of the example cards different from the order of the poll above? It's kind of confusing.

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Oh nice, I forgot that this round would show our cards like this. I like the idea of slimming down the entries, but is 180 pixel width really necessary? I think 250 would look better, but I've got bad vision, so maybe it's just me. Anyone else find themselves rescaling this page and zooming in to view the cards?

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#5 Jul 25, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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This is my first time being in this particular phase of a large scale competition, so, definitely a service to the other viewers and voters to have things pared down. Speaking of pared down, though, I'm kinda with Zardoz. I like to think my vision is closer to the 20/20 mark, but, for some of the cards that have shrunken text, like Broek's Twin Resurrection or Shadow's Relentless Skelegon or my Argent Mage Knight, 180 might shrink it down too much. 250 would look best, but I think even 200 would be a nice compromise of tidiness and ease of viewing.

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I initially figured that the upvotes on the main submission page were irrelevant, especially when everyone was reminded that the upvote system WASN'T what would be used a day or two before the submissions were locked, although I was wondering about how they divided the 18 entries between the two rounds of polling.

I mean, I figured why mine was selected, someone had to be a jobber in a ring with Cogito, Tox, NoBravery and Shadow [/self_deprecation]

HOT TAKE EDIT: Speaking of Tox, hey, Tox, lookat this! The curse of the new expansion drip feed reveal strikes again!

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So this is the new discussion thread? Feels weird to not talk about the poll, but I taught myself something neat in Photoshop, how to automate a "contact sheet" of all my cards. I'll toss it in a spoiler, because it's huge. But using the Contact Sheet automation plugin, you can create a handy image with all of your cards, neatly arranged in rows and columns. Very useful for seeing everything at once.

Right Click and "Open Image in a New Tab"

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#9 Jul 26, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Quote from Broeck1 >>

I think I am in a lot of trouble.. Seeing the summary of my expansion like this, I feel like I definitely didn't make the right choices for presentation.

It seems like my expansion now only is about 'Sequencing' and 'Ordering'. While this quite a big part of the expansion, it's definitely not the core of it. I feel like the summary of the expansion misses the core of what it really is.

I haven't picked the flashiest cards, I've picked some cards that show off some core mechanics. Now, narrowed down to a final poll, I feel like I should have picked cards that grab the readers attention more. Also some cards I showcased needed some clarification, without that they might be hard to fully understand.

Like others have said, scaling doesn't really help, one of my cards is barely even readable.

Also, I'm up against some of the contenders that are likely to reach the finals (Cogito? Nobravery? ThisOtherGuyTox?). How is the poll decided? And how is the order of the expansions decided? I thought they were ordered by number of votes, why is Nobravery's expansion not the first (followed by miles of nothing and than ThisOtherGuyTox). Why are ZardozSpeaks and BatteredBlackCloak showed before my expansion?

And, I see that the planning is delayed by two days? That's a problem for me, because I am going on a holiday in 2 days, I am not sure I will be able to submit from where I am going (on a phone, with crappy internet connection in the middle of nowhere (will I even have an internet connection?)). I planned to submit for next phase just before I hopped on a plane, right after the next phase went up. I will probably not be back before the deadline either

Meh, I feel like this is the end of the road for me. Chances of me getting through to the next phase are slim. Even if I am lucky and do get through, I will have a lot of trouble submitting for the next.

Also, It's really early in the morning over here and I am usually cranky over everything in the morning, so that doesn't help xD.

Dude (or dude-dette), your expansion looks AMAZING. The Sequencing and Ordering mechanics are quite skill-intensive, the flavour is fantastic, and it just looks like a fun clash between the Horde and the Alliance. I wouldn't be surprised if YOU made it to the finals!

In other words, chill out! You got this!
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Quote from Broeck1 >>

Quote from Cogito_Ergo_Sum >>

Quote from Broeck1 >>

I think I am in a lot of trouble.. Seeing the summary of my expansion like this, I feel like I definitely didn't make the right choices for presentation.

It seems like my expansion now only is about 'Sequencing' and 'Ordering'. While this quite a big part of the expansion, it's definitely not the core of it. I feel like the summary of the expansion misses the core of what it really is.

I haven't picked the flashiest cards, I've picked some cards that show off some core mechanics. Now, narrowed down to a final poll, I feel like I should have picked cards that grab the readers attention more. Also some cards I showcased needed some clarification, without that they might be hard to fully understand.

Like others have said, scaling doesn't really help, one of my cards is barely even readable.

Also, I'm up against some of the contenders that are likely to reach the finals (Cogito? Nobravery? ThisOtherGuyTox?). How is the poll decided? And how is the order of the expansions decided? I thought they were ordered by number of votes, why is Nobravery's expansion not the first (followed by miles of nothing and than ThisOtherGuyTox). Why are ZardozSpeaks and BatteredBlackCloak showed before my expansion?

And, I see that the planning is delayed by two days? That's a problem for me, because I am going on a holiday in 2 days, I am not sure I will be able to submit from where I am going (on a phone, with crappy internet connection in the middle of nowhere (will I even have an internet connection?)). I planned to submit for next phase just before I hopped on a plane, right after the next phase went up. I will probably not be back before the deadline either

Meh, I feel like this is the end of the road for me. Chances of me getting through to the next phase are slim. Even if I am lucky and do get through, I will have a lot of trouble submitting for the next.

Also, It's really early in the morning over here and I am usually cranky over everything in the morning, so that doesn't help xD.

Dude (or dude-dette), your expansion looks AMAZING. The Sequencing and Ordering mechanics are quite skill-intensive, the flavour is fantastic, and it just looks like a fun clash between the Horde and the Alliance. I wouldn't be surprised if YOU made it to the finals!

In other words, chill out! You got this!

Thats all I needed in the morning, a big cup of coffee and some sweet words of our beloved Cogito <3

Now kiss
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A lot of cool expansions here... I'm going to force myself to vote 1/2 because I really like all of them.

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Quote from PupleMD >>

Secrets of Dalaraan by Cogito_Ergo_Sum (post #11)

Err...Mods, I think you've spelled Dalaran wrong.

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Quote from CecilHoshino >>

I initially figured that the upvotes on the main submission page were irrelevant, especially when everyone was reminded that the upvote system WASN'T what would be used a day or two before the submissions were locked, although I was wondering about how they divided the 18 entries between the two rounds of polling.

I mean, I figured why mine was selected, someone had to be a jobber in a ring with Cogito, Tox, NoBravery and Shadow [/self_deprecation]

HOT TAKE EDIT: Speaking of Tox, hey, Tox, lookat this! The curse of the new expansion drip feed reveal strikes again!

Jesus christ.

I even put it as an example card.

Putricide better be busted. Elseway it might be a little awkward balancewise :/

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Quote from ThisOtherGuyTox >>

Quote from CecilHoshino >>

I initially figured that the upvotes on the main submission page were irrelevant, especially when everyone was reminded that the upvote system WASN'T what would be used a day or two before the submissions were locked, although I was wondering about how they divided the 18 entries between the two rounds of polling.

I mean, I figured why mine was selected, someone had to be a jobber in a ring with Cogito, Tox, NoBravery and Shadow [/self_deprecation]

HOT TAKE EDIT: Speaking of Tox, hey, Tox, lookat this! The curse of the new expansion drip feed reveal strikes again!

Jesus christ.

I even put it as an example card.

Putricide better be busted. Elseway it might be a little awkward balancewise :/

To be fair, your one lets you insta-chain 5 secrets in a row if you're lucky, and is way easier to trigger. Then again, Dr.6 was a thing.

But yeah, Putricide seems a lot better...

Don't have time to review anything and my wifi sucks RN, so... I'll just be going now. Good luck everyone - they all look awesome!

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Quote from ThisOtherGuyTox >>

Quote from CecilHoshino >>

I initially figured that the upvotes on the main submission page were irrelevant, especially when everyone was reminded that the upvote system WASN'T what would be used a day or two before the submissions were locked, although I was wondering about how they divided the 18 entries between the two rounds of polling.

I mean, I figured why mine was selected, someone had to be a jobber in a ring with Cogito, Tox, NoBravery and Shadow [/self_deprecation]

HOT TAKE EDIT: Speaking of Tox, hey, Tox, lookat this! The curse of the new expansion drip feed reveal strikes again!

Jesus christ.

I even put it as an example card.

Putricide better be busted. Elseway it might be a little awkward balancewise :/

Should have played around that KFT card reveal.

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Quote from ThisOtherGuyTox >>

Quote from CecilHoshino >>

I initially figured that the upvotes on the main submission page were irrelevant, especially when everyone was reminded that the upvote system WASN'T what would be used a day or two before the submissions were locked, although I was wondering about how they divided the 18 entries between the two rounds of polling.

I mean, I figured why mine was selected, someone had to be a jobber in a ring with Cogito, Tox, NoBravery and Shadow [/self_deprecation]

HOT TAKE EDIT: Speaking of Tox, hey, Tox, lookat this! The curse of the new expansion drip feed reveal strikes again!

Jesus christ.

I even put it as an example card.

Putricide better be busted. Elseway it might be a little awkward balancewise :/

Putricide is pretty busted. He has 3 more attack and put the HUNTER Secret to the battlefield (which is known to be Tempo-based)

On another unrelated note, I wonder how my expansion will fare considering that I focus on the lesser like aspect of Rogue and Priest (aka Miracle and how unkillable Priest is). Even if I try to not give Rogue any more burst / Stealth or have Priest cards be more tempo and burst combo based.

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It seems kinda strange why the 3 people with the most votes were put in the same poll :/

There will be like 5 who advance here?

This is gonna be such a tough poll. Considering there's atleast 2-3 expansions here that are better than my own ;(

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In answer to some questions:

The order of the poll: I genuinely have no idea why that happened. I was doing it at like 3am, so that must have just been a mistake on my part.

The people in the poll: We decided just to put everyone in at random. Ideally we'd have done some fancy 'all odd entries (by votes) for this poll, all even entries the next' but we wanted to make sure we got it out asap after the delay. With the quality of the expansions this time around, I genuinely don't think it'll matter - everyone seems to have an equal shot, imo.

As a reminder, around 10 people will be advancing to the next round.

Oh, and misspelling of Dalaran - it's fixed on my end >.< Dumb caching issues.

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I kind of wish the old discussion thread didn't lock. This doesn't feel like the place for us to keep workshopping new cards for the next round. Also, this thread will lock when Poll 2 goes up in a day or so.

Going to review these entries in Poll 1 later today. This stuff is looking good!

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So question: Do you guys count the vote in "Total number" (aka both polls will be counted as 1 poll) or do you guys eliminate separately for each polls?

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So question: Do you guys count the vote in "Total number" (aka both polls will be counted as 1 poll) or do you guys eliminate separately for each polls?

It'll probably be percentage of votes received, then compared to the next poll. That way the 2 polls can be compared, but if fewer people vote overall for thread 2 you won't see no one form thread 2 get through.

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