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Okay i need opinions please :3

My Three Cards

Other basics (Missing one more)

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 I havent made the pokemon and the legend card yet (too be added soon :P)

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OK so here is the updated version of my Pokemon minion-thanks to whoever recommended it  I've decided to use Sableye. In the story he robs enemies he defeats, so in this case every time it kills a minion he robs them of their gold!

 

My legendary is a redeemed Sylvanas. It is able to defend against most early threats and preserve an early lead, with Anticipate she becomes even more effective as a kind of sniper. 

Your Sylvannas has a lot of redundant text. It can probably be worded 'Whenever an enemy attacks, deal 3 damage to it. Anticipate: Gain Stealth'. It also seems very strong, but I'm not sure. It kinda just shuts down decks that don't run a lot of removal or big minions. 

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Okay i need opinions please :3

My Three Cards

Other basics (Missing one more)

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 I havent made the pokemon and the legend card yet (too be added soon :P)

 

•  Blinding Rage: I think the wording is a bit off. It should say something like "Destroy a random minion for each player", as in Void Crusher
• Eyes of Insanity: similar probem. It loses a bit of coolness, but I think it should say "Deal damage to a minion equal to that minion's Attack".
• Feral Impulse: when does the double damage taken effect end? If it works like I think, it should be "Give your hero +7 Attack and double all damage taken this turn". I don't really like the card because it will only be used to go face and 6 mana for 14 damage is a bit low. I'd up the cost to 4 or lower the Attack gain.
• Spine Spike: too complicated. I don't know how to fix it, and the effect is cool, but it is very complex for a basic card at least.

The rest of the cards seem flavorful and more or less balanced. I like the concept!

So, I don't have my basic set completed just yet but I'm looking for some feedback on my process.

The Class:

I was actually thinking about making a "moonstone" card, so the second challenge was pretty funny to see. I'm not totally sure about the best way to represent the Pokémon, but what I've come up with:

Inspired from the Animated Armor effect. I think it's fair to consider it worth the same as taunt, so this would be on par with Voidwalker. The only concern I'd think of is having two of them on the board at once would be considerably stronger, but I kind of like that aspect because I was thinking of that one episode where the Clefairies all came out together.

For the Legendary card, I was thinking of making Sayge from the Darkmoon Fair. For those familiar with it, Sayge has a little game where she'll give you a fortune based off different choices you make in a story she tells you. I wanted to mirror this effect, but I'm not sure what the best implementation would be without it being to similar to Kazakus.

Also, I have a few basic cards I'd appreciate any feedback on:

And of course, congratulations to everyone for making it!

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I think I've finalized everything for my submission, save for the Legendary. I'll post the whole thing for one last round of feedback. Everything's in a spoiler so as not to clog up the discussion topic. 

The Class:

 Challenge Cards:

 

 Basic Cards:

 Any opinions are greatly appreciated, especially on the Legendary and which basic cards I should put out in the open. Thanks in advance :)

 I have to say I really like your Basic Set. It's the first one I've seen in this thread that actually feels basic and not purposely overcomplicated. It has its fair share of average to below average cards and gives a good idea of what the main mechanic of the class is supposed to be. I'm only concerned about Death's Flask: it seems too slow to see play at 4-mana, but still, I think the effect should have a clause indicating it can't reduce the Attack of the minions below 1.

The Legendary seems pretty fun, though unreliable. I think it's appropriately costed for the effect.

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Feedback to @Dxiled

I am really realising of what you want to do with your class, I understand it a lot, and I like the concept, I identify your legendary, its that guy of Skylanders ;),

Although I have a small complain of Skylanders Siggy, it feels a bit UP though on a side note, but I like the effect, maybe like a "Discover" thing? Feels tad risky but I like it, no complains (Did I just contradicted myself?)

Thats the only card I have an opinion, the other ones are pretty much balanced (That Brew Addict combo tho) although Firebloom Potion is a powercreep of Shadow Bolt, but since its almost like... err... non-fittable... its balanced in a way.

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If I may suggest alternate wording...

"Can't be targeted by spells, Hero Powers, or Battlecries, and neither can your hero."

That keeps the familiar structure from "Elusive" more intact, and I think that'd be more intuitive.

Also, can I suggest that you give your hero power s slight buff? Right now, you're paying a whole (1) more than Paladin for a 1/1 minion, and all you're getting in return is the "Elusive"card text. I feel like it can get away with being a little better. Maybe make it a 2/1 rather than a 1/1? That would be fairly comparable to Faerie Dragon itself, having -1/-1 in comparison but also costing (1) less.

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I'm not done with my cards yet, but wanted to post them anyway. Here's my class as a reminder.

Here are my cards so far! I need 1 more basic, but I'm still balancing them and deciding what to use in what set. I'm also not sure about Soridormi's balance and ability yet. She is meant to use her Battlecry on a minion you have on the board, then pull all other ones from your hand, then deck, as long as there is still room in the battlefield.

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This is an effect I'd REALLY like to include in my class but I'm having trouble figuring out a good way to express it. I intend for the effect to also copy Battlecries (targets chosen randomly). Also, should the name just be "Chosen" since you're allowed two in your deck?

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This is an effect I'd REALLY like to include in my class but I'm having trouble figuring out a good way to express it. I intend for the effect to also copy Battlecries (targets chosen randomly). Also, should the name just be "Chosen" since you're allowed two in your deck?

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@freddoccino Fabled Fairy seems extremely overpowered to me. You play it before you trade and all your minions gain something close to immune. And yeah playing two of them with any buffs is almost an auto win. Not too sure on how to go about balancing it. Maybe make it a 1/1 or have the effect only active during your opponents turn.

Yeah, you're right. I totally didn't consider it from the attacking side. Having it only on your opponent's turn is pretty much what I think it should be. Thanks.

My Class, the Titan as a reminder.

Hero Power, Ascension - To become a Titan, you must ascend. This power gives your cards a chance to enter the Realm of Titans. Realm of TItans has a unique effect of increasing the costs of cards in your hand. Unlike most cards, Titans love increasing their mana cost! The bigger they are, the more powerful they can be. Since Realm of Titans only increases the cost of adjacent cards it will take careful planning and positioning cards in your hand to utilize properly. And if you don't need to increase the costs of cards in your hand you can always play it out to heal up your minions and even save yourself.


Keyword, Ascended: X - The Titan keyword. For example, a 3 mana card with "Ascended: (2)" would only trigger it's Ascended effect when it costs 5 or more. Many cards in the Titan class gain additional bonuses when they are cost more than their original mana cost. While cards may be decent on their own, getting them to Ascend increases their power dramatically!

 My Basic Set Highlights

Thematic single target removal. Inneffective on most 1-2 drops but can deal with a lot of 3-5 drops and is devastating against large enemy minions seeing how must high cost minions have less health than their cost. (Sylvannas Windrunner, Azure Drake, Gadgetzan Auctioneer etc.)	The First 3/3/3 weapon (No, King's Defender, Cogmaster's Wrench, and Eaglehorn Bow don't count.) Strong for it's cost but has a downside but with the Titan class you can use it to your advantage.	A suped up Mana Wraith but unlike Mana Wraith this increases the cost of ALL cards, not just minions. Even though 4/6 for 6 is pretty badly understatted, if this is played while you're ahead on board dealing with it can be difficult making the opponent spend more mana than necessary and also increasing the power of your cards. (4 mana Execute, 4 mana Sap, 6 mana Fireball)

 The Rest of my Basic Set

A core card of the class. Much like Innervate in Druid. Only nets you 1 mana but triggers your Ascended effects and increases the power of certain cards.	I love exploring new statlines for cards and I think a vanilla 3/1 weapon is pretty strong. (Rockbiter Weapon). It's a great card but without too many weapon synergies I don't expect it to be too overpowered for a basic set card.	The only basic set card that gets better the higher it costs. I wanted to focus on making reasonably powerful basic cards without insane synergies to prevent the class from being competetive with only basic cards. Although the cards are thematic and revolve around cost, most of them don't get better with higher cost. This is the one card that does and it is very powerful when ramped up to high costs. (3 mana Fireball, 5 mana Pyroblast)

Thematic soft removal or buff. A versatile card that can cripple an enemy minion (Tunnel Trogg, Totem Golem, Flamewreath Faceless, Flame Imp, Mana Wraith etc.) or buff your guys. Trading a 6 mana 4/6 into their 5/4 and then using this can bring your 4/1 up to a 6/6. (Similar to Inner Fire in Priest. Lots of potential but situational.)	A 1 mana discount on Arcane Intellect but at a heavy cost. Many basic Titan cards are very powerful for their mana cost which is why card draw is their weak suit. Essentially paying 6 mana for a draw 2 is terrible but you only have to front 2 mana immediately and with any luck you hit cards that benefit from costing more. (Considering making it increase their costs by (1) instead making it essentially a 4 mana draw 2. Comparable to Ancestral Knowledge.)	Every class excluding Shaman has some sort of AOE in the basic set. A situational AOE that is powerful against aggro but pretty useless in the control matchup. Even so it can get rid of a lot of pesky zoo cards and kill things like Acolyte of Pain, Doomsayer and Dirty Rat. (Considered making it 4 mana destroy all enemy minons that cost 2 or less but thought that seemed too much like consecration and didn't hit enough cards to be relevant. Also considered 6 mana destroy all 4 cost minions or less but that seemed a little powerful.

A powerful midrange minion. resonable bulk, (2 attack under vanilla stats) and with a powerful combo of Charge and Taunt. Basically a Fen Creeper with Charge. Yes this card is probably overstatted (Considered making it a 3/5 or make it cost 6.) But many Basic cards are very powerful (Fire Elemental only being 2 stats off vanilla stats.) And it's not that unreasonable considering it's 1 more mana than Stormwind Knight and only gets +1/+1 and taunt. +1/+1 and taunt is strong but not gamebreaking. It deals with early minions easily and can be used to stop late game pushes. Also 3 damage burst and comboed with balance of power it becomes pretty strong. Although for 6 mana you can get a 6/6 charge taunt you have to remember that it's a 2 card combo and things a 4/4 charge taunt is strong too but you didn't see priest's playing Gnomeregan Infantry + Inner Fire.

 Cards that didn't make the cut, but I thought were interesting.

My WToG legendary

 Pokemon Legendary Explanation. Zygarde and tokens. (Names are just placeholders.)

@Asylum_Rhapsody: I was the one who asked about having the Pokemon be a Legendary. Also, you said we could use gimmicks on our TGT Legendaries, so is this okay?

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Also, seems my post was missed and I'd really like some feedback on my basic cards:

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Huh, I really cut it close there.

So, regarding the second challenge and given the theme of my class, I just can't go with anything other than the Time Travel Pokemon itself: Celebi (I could go for Dialga but I'm not really a fan of that one). I've been looking for some art but I'm not sold on anything just yet so if anyone's got something good please let me know.

Also, I'm considering (nothing certain as of yet) maybe making Celebi the Legendary card for Challenge 3, since it's a Legendary Pokemon an all (Mythical, technically, but it's pretty close). Is that allowed? And if it is, do I only show 4 cards? I feel it might actually be disadvantageous to do so, but I wanted to ask anyway.

Reminder of the Class idea:

As for the Basic Set itself, this is what I've gotten so far:

You might or might not have noticed, but I've salvaged some of my earlier ideas for this one.

Temporal Echo: This card works just like Shifter Zerus, in that it doesn't forget what it originally was. It will always be the last spell you played and will change as you play more spells. It also has its own internal Latent counter, so if you had it on your hand for X turn and play it as a Latent: X card, it will trigger the Latent effect even if the original card didn't. It also retains costs reductions.

Alter Fate: Pretty straightforward. This one works with negative Latent effects you don't want in your hand. It also serves to refresh your hand if you having nothing good.

Bronze Apprentice: I'm not sure if this one fits in the Basic Set, nor whether it's balanced at 1 mana. Its mirror effect doesn't really inconveniences the opponent give that they choose when to use the draw provided, so it's not really trying to be a fatigue card.

Time Skip: Instant Doomsayer, just add water. This card I feel is extremely versatile, while also not too complicated. It works with a myriad of cards, and also, I must note, with the Latent countdown of cards in your hand (it adds 1 turn to them when played) and also with "Each turn this is in your hand"cards.

Time Warp:  This works pretty well with anything you wouldn't mind having extra copies of.

Time Mirage: The classic Oracle/Time Travel draw niche is "Draw X cards during your next turn", but that doesn't really mesh well with the class' mechanics that want cards to be in your hands asap. So we have this, which does pretty much the same while enabling Latent and "Each turn this is in your hand" effects.

Sands of Time: This card works much like Nourish for both players, so technically the net cost of the card is only 1 mana. It helps at pushing into the late game against faster decks that don't care about their mana but rather their cards, but it's not really the same as ramp Druid cards since this one can backfire if played carelessly.

Time Loop: Another card draw, of sortsm though this one is never useful standalone.

Oceanic Diver: This works like Shifter Zerus or Nerubian Prophet, and it's not "Battlecry: Gain +1/+1 for each turn this was in your hand" so cards like Dirty Rat won't nullify the buff by pulling it out of your hand. I'm not convinced on the name for this one card, but I can't quite come up with something better at the momemt. Let's call it a Placeholder for the time being. I'm open and looking for suggestions.

Rewind Time: Right in-between Vanish and Twisting Nether. Allows you to get the most value from played Battlecries and similar effects while clearing the board.

 As it stands, my most likely example cards will be these, though I'm not sure on the third one yet. Any feedback appreciated.