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Thing is, even if it DOES give you a very cheap huge minion (generally not all that likely, unless you hold onto it as a dead card until you set up the perfect conditions), it's still not that great for value unless it pulls trash or nothing for the opponent. If it's very good in the extremely favourable of circumstances, relatively weak in the average circumstances and outright bad in poor circumstances, it's in no way a good card.
I think it has its uses... like ignoring overload costs.
Also, Shaman is well equipped to deal with the potential drawback of the card.
Even if it draws out your opponent's Rag or something you can Hex it right away.
Bad players whine.
Good players adapt.
You are on the right track, and while kind of negative, WNxAr has a point, that right now the card isn't great. but you know what? A WHOLE LOT is going to change with 120+ cards added. Even now, though, I have been trying very hard to get heavy minion shaman deck to work and it is sooo close. I have a rendition that is a pretty good deck, and it uses a Far Sight. It is a late game card, and also helps with combos. This will help a lot when added to that deck.
The most success I have had with big, fat heavy minions is Crusher Shaman. Even in its current state, I can see this card being a huge boon to this deck. People seem to have no clue whatsoever that you manage your hand and deck creation to make this work in your favor. Sure, there is RNG, but you can prepare for it so it has the best chance of working. But if you just play your normal mid range shaman and throw this in there, then throw it down, "wheneva'" well, yeah, the card sucks.
I am sure some players will never, ever, add anything RNG to their decks. That is fine. But it is coming, whether you like it or not, and at some point, a standard, predictable archtype without new RNG cards just won't cut it anymore. People don't like change.
… I think i'm going to go an cry in the corner for a while...
This is horrifying. If you can get this card to work you can instantly win games.... turn 6 Ancestor's Call get Kel'Thuzad Ancestral Spirit GG.
The only way to stop an ancestral spirited kel'thuzad is poly/hex, 16 damage, any mind control effect or equality shenanigans. If you're not mage or shaman or have sylvannas in hand you loose the game instantly.
A decent tempo card imo, but far too expensive to be viable imo. Honestly this card seems like it would fit better in ramp druid
Not to be used on ranked ladder.
I guess this card could also be useful if your opponent is top-decking and has no cards in hand. You could use it to put out a cheap 5+ mana minion and still have mana left to buff it or put out a second minion, without worrying about your opponent's minion.
Of course, setting up a deck for specific scenarios like this is not usually a good idea.
Me too............... so disappointed about this card, in the same range of reincarnate. I hope that the druid one will be a good surprise once it come out cause i feel druid, shaman and paladin got the short hand of the stick in naxx class cards. These class have not innovate in forever ago.
Yeah people are dismissing this card as trash right away without even seeing it in action.
Of course it will be trash in your cookie-cutter Shaman deck.
This is one of those cards that you have to build around in order for it to work.
This is a Timmy card. It needs a deck to be designed arount it. Think big, high-value minions with ways to cheat them into play early.
Bad players whine.
Good players adapt.
How is shieldmasta a straight trade? You are worse off than just directly playing it from your habd cause you give your opponent a monion as well. Also, why would run shieldmasta over blecher is beyond me.
You have 4 minions i see and KT is iffy as hell even then. I rate your deck rather gimmicky more than anything.
I will try to make any card work. I have made a pretty aggressive shaman deck that uses this card for a very strong mid/late game. I think it might need a bit more draw, but it's just the initial deck.
I think you mean KT+Reincarnate on turn 6, but yeah, double KT on your field spells gg. But's it's a 3 cards combo...
This is the best idea in this thread,deck around this as a win condiditon seems quite good and reasonable.
Er... 3 card combos are really easy to get. Maybe not by turn 6 but yeah... And also I did mean ancestral spirit, but reincarnate is also fine. Using reincarnate makes the play weaker to equality (and general AoE) but stronger against mind control effects. Using reincarnate also means that it's easier to kill both kel'thuzads simultaneously because they can both be weakened before striking the final blows.
I also forgot to mention that silence utterly destroys the ancestral spirit variant, but it doesn't hurt the reincarnate variant that much.
Or that useless Zombie Chow during the late game, 4 mana to play a 2/3, that value.
If I ever played this card, with my luck, it will be like a reverse Soulfire, like of Soulfire targeting and discarding my best minion in hand, this card will dump the worst card in my hand onto the board.
Just what we need, more cards like Mindgames. Awesome job Blizzard!
That could help get the foe-reaper into play...
And people were complaining about Shieldmaiden, lol...
The only problem is that Shaman doesn't have reliable draw mechanics or survival ability (especially in this aggro heavy meta) to last long enough to pull this off. If Auctioneer doesn't get nerfed, maybe a shaman miracle deck could utilize a combo like this....but without Preparations it's still a stretch. Don't get me wrong I do see some potential with this card but the same could be said about reincarnate and look how used that card is......this card just requires too perfect a situation......
When life gives you lemons, trade'em for limes and get some Coronas!