At first look an amazing card, but for me there are 2 important questions on how it will work, which will influence how good it will be in practice.
1. Carnivorous Cube interaction: In the video Cube is mentioned as one of the cards this synergises with. It could be an off-hand comment, or it might mean that the battlecry indeed copies a Cube full with whatever that Cube had eaten. Some people mention that this isn't how it works with things such as Seeping Oozeling or when you Cube a Cube, but a. the Oozeling copies the effect of a Cube inside the deck, that has eaten nothing and b. The Cubes coming out of the Cube are copies, and copies in HS are generated as the "vanilla" version of the minion.
On a technical level, all minion effects in HS are buffs. If the Undatakah when summoned references a list of the actual deathrattles played this game, rather than a "vanilla" copy of the effect, the Cube it copies will be full.
2. Will the deathrattle have to have been activated for Undatakah to copy it? Meaning, if the minion was silenced before it died, does it count as "a friendly minion that has died this game"?
I'm inclined to think no, but the text leaves it up for debate, as it doesn't say "friendly Deathrattle minions".
At first look an amazing card, but for me there are 2 important questions on how it will work, which will influence how good it will be in practice.
1. Carnivorous Cube interaction: In the video Cube is mentioned as one of the cards this synergises with. It could be an off-hand comment, or it might mean that the battlecry indeed copies a Cube full with whatever that Cube had eaten. Some people mention that this isn't how it works with things such as Seeping Oozeling or when you Cube a Cube, but a. the Oozeling copies the effect of a Cube inside the deck, that has eaten nothing and b. The Cubes coming out of the Cube are copies, and copies in HS are generated as the "vanilla" version of the minion.
On a technical level, all minion effects in HS are buffs. If the Undatakah when summoned references a list of the actual deathrattles played this game, rather than a "vanilla" copy of the effect, the Cube it copies will be full.
2. Will the deathrattle have to have been activated for Undatakah to copy it? Meaning, if the minion was silenced before it died, does it count as "a friendly minion that has died this game"?
I'm inclined to think no, but the text leaves it up for debate, as it doesn't say "friendly Deathrattle minions".
If that's the case then that would imply that it works with Spikeridged Steed which doesn't seem quite right.
Play 2 Cruel Dinomancers during the game. Discard Da Undatakah and Soulwarden somehow. Your 2nd Soulwarden will give you infinite amounts of himself plus this bigboi, who will resummon themselves once when they die.
Am I the only one that noticed the typo in the word friendly?
Also does this follow the same resurrection rules as say diamond spellstone IE if two different copies of the same minion would have died during the game, could he potentially have two of the same effect? (Example: 2 loot hoarders die, then i play him, does he get both "draw a card" DRs or just one?)
8-mana, do-nothing is a bit of a problem - expensive minions which don't do anything typically only see play if they can be cheated onto the board, but most of the ways you can cheat this new card into play will negate his Battlecry.
He's also a dead card in hand until you play the DRs you want him to have, and those minions die. Then you play this guy as a vanilla dude for 8-mana, and try to kill him off the following turn. Slow, inconsistent and no impact the turn he's played, for an awful lot of mana. He seems a good candidate for dusting.
Is this actually good? I feel like its being insanely overrated. In most decks, this is just worse than The Lich King. And a LOT worse unless you're a Hunter and you Play Dead on this thing it doesn't do jack. And even when you do that, the Hunter deathrattles aren't super impressive. You're getting maybe a 5/5 and killing a random enemy I guess? But for 9 mana and two cards is that really the best you can do? At 8 or 9 as a Hunter you're playing Kathrena Winterwisp or Oondasta or trying to pull of Cube Combos. You're really sad if this hits Carnivorous Cube. And here's another thing, Hunter doesn't even play The Lich King! And this is just worse! Why would you ever play this?
Worst than LK in a vacuum, but thats not how you evaluate cards in HS, or in any card game really. This card's potential for sinergy is too great to never see any play, specially when a tier 1 deck can fit it in so easily. Just cuz its not good everytime you hit turn 8 it doesnt mean its bad.
If this is just half good as it's named - this card will shape the meta for at least 3 expansions.
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The very first card I like from Rastakhan so far.
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At first look an amazing card, but for me there are 2 important questions on how it will work, which will influence how good it will be in practice.
1. Carnivorous Cube interaction: In the video Cube is mentioned as one of the cards this synergises with. It could be an off-hand comment, or it might mean that the battlecry indeed copies a Cube full with whatever that Cube had eaten. Some people mention that this isn't how it works with things such as Seeping Oozeling or when you Cube a Cube, but a. the Oozeling copies the effect of a Cube inside the deck, that has eaten nothing and b. The Cubes coming out of the Cube are copies, and copies in HS are generated as the "vanilla" version of the minion.
On a technical level, all minion effects in HS are buffs. If the Undatakah when summoned references a list of the actual deathrattles played this game, rather than a "vanilla" copy of the effect, the Cube it copies will be full.
2. Will the deathrattle have to have been activated for Undatakah to copy it? Meaning, if the minion was silenced before it died, does it count as "a friendly minion that has died this game"?
I'm inclined to think no, but the text leaves it up for debate, as it doesn't say "friendly Deathrattle minions".
If that's the case then that would imply that it works with Spikeridged Steed which doesn't seem quite right.
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Amazing card! Love the prowrestling easter egg in Hearthstone! "Rest in Peace!"
Also Ancestral Call and Big Bad Voodoo. I really don't know, we either have to ask devs for clarification or wait for it to be playtested...
Play 2 Cruel Dinomancers during the game. Discard Da Undatakah and Soulwarden somehow. Your 2nd Soulwarden will give you infinite amounts of himself plus this bigboi, who will resummon themselves once when they die.
Am I the only one that noticed the typo in the word friendly?
Also does this follow the same resurrection rules as say diamond spellstone IE if two different copies of the same minion would have died during the game, could he potentially have two of the same effect? (Example: 2 loot hoarders die, then i play him, does he get both "draw a card" DRs or just one?)
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8-mana, do-nothing is a bit of a problem - expensive minions which don't do anything typically only see play if they can be cheated onto the board, but most of the ways you can cheat this new card into play will negate his Battlecry.
He's also a dead card in hand until you play the DRs you want him to have, and those minions die. Then you play this guy as a vanilla dude for 8-mana, and try to kill him off the following turn. Slow, inconsistent and no impact the turn he's played, for an awful lot of mana. He seems a good candidate for dusting.
Worst than LK in a vacuum, but thats not how you evaluate cards in HS, or in any card game really. This card's potential for sinergy is too great to never see any play, specially when a tier 1 deck can fit it in so easily. Just cuz its not good everytime you hit turn 8 it doesnt mean its bad.
This card is nuts!!!
Why does it cost 8 mana?!! T_T It would’ve been the ultimate card for big rogue at 7, 9 or 10 D’:
If this is just half good as it's named - this card will shape the meta for at least 3 expansions.
“If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” ― George Bernard Shaw
EU Legend: S52 (ZooHeal Lock); S76 (Highlander Hunter);
Oh, goody!
I think now to make a priest deck with this guy and Zerek, Master Cloner. Though silence and polymorph will destroy this guy.
Spellbreaker value.
This is what Myra Rotspring was meant to be.
now the questions is can i run it in the same even rogue as Captain Hooktusk and N'Zoth, the Corruptor
even jade rogue with a pirate splash?
I love this card btw super good
Nice card, seems best if you can trigger it the same turn you play it, i.e. for Rogue and Hunter mostly. Seems pretty good with Spirit of the Shark.
work with spiritsinger or no?for gain deathrattle i think work it