you can force a silence with cube. Cubing your buffed or normal prelate sends it ot your deck and stores 2 in board. They WILL have to silence that shit right away, or risk you getting more prelates to buff with board buff or the 3/4 guy, but since you cube'd it, now you have your 2 prelates in deck, plus 2 inside the cube, while you can have up to 2 spellbreakers only (and who runs 2 of them?) Owls? they suck ass, only included in odd decks since there is no other odd silence
For the people saying "lol silence" - this card is played in a deck that is literally full of silence targets. If they are holding all their silence for just prelate, then they've lost.
The goal isn't to go infinite with this guy (although it's a nice side effect) it's to add redundancy and consistency to a deck that is on the edge of playable.
Immortal Prelate seems pretty good at first sight, but it's definitely one of those cards who need a considerable amount of testing to really know how good it is. Even so, I think this card is very good. ;)
On second thoughts and the more I think about it this card just seems to get worse and worse (I confess that I have a tendency to underrate Paladin cards, but even then).
Changed my vote to Bad as a result.
Yeah Silence is good against it and so on, but I just don't think the card is consistent enough. Any deck that wants to run this also has to run Bells, it has to run Wild Pyro+Equality. Then you start questions over Crystology and Potion of Madness...and then you realize you get stuck with a lot of 2 drops which you can't play on 2, and then you have to cut cards which make you have a more powerful and consistent mid~late game or you leave yourself to get facerolled by aggro decks. Add to that the natural inconsistency of having to pull off a combo(play minion and buff minion) for this card to be good and I start having doubts. If you were going to buff minions right away (as you must do with this card), Voraxx might be more powerful than this card, yet the Votaxx was consistently cut, for instance. If it was tempo neutral, definitely yes. Since it isn't, on reflection I find myself a lot more hesitant.
Edit: Also I'm 99% certain that Cubed Prelates would not retain buffs. You'd shuffle a copy of a buffed Prelate into your deck but the 2 copies that are spat out from the Cube on death I'm certain would work the same as Desperate Stand and be normal 1/3s.
Every year people are like "lul silence meta inc" and it never really happens. Feel free to call me out if i'm wrong, but I think this card is very powerful and will spawn a complete archetype.
Every year people are like "lul silence meta inc" and it never really happens. Feel free to call me out if i'm wrong, but I think this card is very powerful and will spawn a complete archetype.
For Paladin specifically though archetypes which have relied heavily on these "silence lul" cards have never taken off - so there is no reason for a silence meta that counters it.
That's not saying that that criticism of the silence lul argument is invalid but perhaps people are overrating these kinds of effects consistently when they actually aren't that good.
hmm, with this it seems that control paladin may be a thing. This can close out a game on its own, and unless everyone starts running a crazy amount of silences it will be good. If silences or cards like Hex go on the rise then the deck will suffer a bit. Seems there are enough pieces and perhaps with a few more good cards this expansion paladin can go from an aggro beat down to a slower control deck with inevitability. Will have to see what else comes this expansion, but I feel that paladin won't be a half bad deck, although I am personally more excited about control mage getting better.
If that is correct and you can land a desperate stand/corpse raiser + Spikeridged Steed on it, it's just absurd only a few cards in the game can deal with it. Silence effect, transform effect, sap vanish.. That's it ?
Well it's not the same card that is "being brought back to life" I don't think. You'll likely get one in your deck and one will get raised. The question is will both keep enchantments?
I dunno, this card is looking a bit shaky right now. 8 Paladin reveals in and not one targeted spell so far, and a lot of its best buffs are from Mammoth. Its future is uncertain.
Agreed....agreed
you can force the enemy to silence with cube. They will like to silence the cube, or risk adding more potential ever-increasing minions in your deck
you can force a silence with cube. Cubing your buffed or normal prelate sends it ot your deck and stores 2 in board. They WILL have to silence that shit right away, or risk you getting more prelates to buff with board buff or the 3/4 guy, but since you cube'd it, now you have your 2 prelates in deck, plus 2 inside the cube, while you can have up to 2 spellbreakers only (and who runs 2 of them?) Owls? they suck ass, only included in odd decks since there is no other odd silence
Even Warlock runs 2x Spellbreaker.
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Yummy... this with Zola, Cube and Faceless Manipulator must be goooood :)
Emperor Thaurissan this and Lantern of Power = very nice
slow, is there a way to give it life steal or rush
The goal of all life is death.
I think this is such a good glue card.
For the people saying "lol silence" - this card is played in a deck that is literally full of silence targets. If they are holding all their silence for just prelate, then they've lost.
The goal isn't to go infinite with this guy (although it's a nice side effect) it's to add redundancy and consistency to a deck that is on the edge of playable.
Honestly, buffadin was really fun last time I played it, and with this I might just return.
Immortal Prelate seems pretty good at first sight, but it's definitely one of those cards who need a considerable amount of testing to really know how good it is. Even so, I think this card is very good. ;)
Does Crystology draw this once you've buffed it? I don't know if there's any precedent for this (maybe Prince Keleseth buff on minions?).
You can just use Dinosize, and then you dont have to play Rafaam
Unconditionally hard countered by Archbishop Benedictus, won't see play.
For real though, I could see people playing this card seriously if Prelate defines fatigue Paladin as a top tier archetype.
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On second thoughts and the more I think about it this card just seems to get worse and worse (I confess that I have a tendency to underrate Paladin cards, but even then).
Changed my vote to Bad as a result.
Yeah Silence is good against it and so on, but I just don't think the card is consistent enough. Any deck that wants to run this also has to run Bells, it has to run Wild Pyro+Equality. Then you start questions over Crystology and Potion of Madness...and then you realize you get stuck with a lot of 2 drops which you can't play on 2, and then you have to cut cards which make you have a more powerful and consistent mid~late game or you leave yourself to get facerolled by aggro decks. Add to that the natural inconsistency of having to pull off a combo(play minion and buff minion) for this card to be good and I start having doubts. If you were going to buff minions right away (as you must do with this card), Voraxx might be more powerful than this card, yet the Votaxx was consistently cut, for instance. If it was tempo neutral, definitely yes. Since it isn't, on reflection I find myself a lot more hesitant.
Edit: Also I'm 99% certain that Cubed Prelates would not retain buffs. You'd shuffle a copy of a buffed Prelate into your deck but the 2 copies that are spat out from the Cube on death I'm certain would work the same as Desperate Stand and be normal 1/3s.
Every year people are like "lul silence meta inc" and it never really happens. Feel free to call me out if i'm wrong, but I think this card is very powerful and will spawn a complete archetype.
For Paladin specifically though archetypes which have relied heavily on these "silence lul" cards have never taken off - so there is no reason for a silence meta that counters it.
That's not saying that that criticism of the silence lul argument is invalid but perhaps people are overrating these kinds of effects consistently when they actually aren't that good.
hmm, with this it seems that control paladin may be a thing. This can close out a game on its own, and unless everyone starts running a crazy amount of silences it will be good. If silences or cards like Hex go on the rise then the deck will suffer a bit. Seems there are enough pieces and perhaps with a few more good cards this expansion paladin can go from an aggro beat down to a slower control deck with inevitability. Will have to see what else comes this expansion, but I feel that paladin won't be a half bad deck, although I am personally more excited about control mage getting better.
Well it's not the same card that is "being brought back to life" I don't think. You'll likely get one in your deck and one will get raised. The question is will both keep enchantments?
I dunno, this card is looking a bit shaky right now. 8 Paladin reveals in and not one targeted spell so far, and a lot of its best buffs are from Mammoth. Its future is uncertain.
How does it interact with Da Undatakah?