Shudderwock shaman seems like a really fun deck but since I don't have shudderwock himself and some of the other required cards for the deck I was thinking maybe I should disenchant it and make:
A) Rhok'delar, since it's the only card missing for a Spell Hunter (which still has a positive winrate to my understanding).
It's also used in a lot of even shaman decks. I personally love elemental shaman decks and it can be ridiculously powerful in those. You get an extra kalimos or blazecaller. If you have the latter 2 cards I would build a deck if I were you just to try it out!
If you don't have those cards and don't think you will be using grumble soon, it has only 1 more expansion to go so you only run the risk that elemental shaman really becomes tier 1 there, but I highly doubt it (it is the hardest tribe condition to play with).
I don't really have kalimos or any blazecallers and only have 755 dust right now, so couldn't try that. I do feel like if I got shudderwock or more of the essential elementals I would play grumble, but at the moment it seems kinda tough to fit it anywhere on its own.
For crafts: choices B, C and D are economically speaking far better than A due to rotation. From personal experience I'd recommend Hagatha as it's an incredibly fun card.
That is true, I suppose A wouldn't last long even though I wouldn't have to craft anything else. And Hagatha does seem like the most fun of those cards... Can even shaman without Kalimos still do pretty well if I were to add Hagatha?
Grumble is a really powerful option in even shaman.
Sure, but I feel like it's powerful because of Kalimos, which I don't have, unless I'm missing something. I guess there's fire elemental and phoenix as well, but wouldn't Hagatha be more value?
Grumble, Worldshakerr is the kind of card that looks incredible on paper and is really disappointing when you actually play him.
Play him a little in elemental or even decks and you will see what I mean. It's a weird play because it's almost never good on curve and it necessitates a specific board to use him correctly.
Therefore I think most of the time it's a ''win-more'' card and I would actually exclude him from those decks. Hagatha the Witch is a much more pro-active card in my opinion so if you really want to play Shaman I would go for that, as she fits most standard and wild decks.
It''s powerful in Even shaman even outside of Kalimos. Saronite Chain Gang and the Eel along with what you mentioned. Just trading and then replaying the minions at full hp is good value, especially if you have hagatha's hero power for all those spells. You can totally build even shaman without grumble though. I would keep him as it's an awesome card but if you insist on DEing then your choices are all good (other than the hunter weapon unless you've tried spell hunter and like it).
It's also used in a lot of even shaman decks. I personally love elemental shaman decks and it can be ridiculously powerful in those. You get an extra kalimos or blazecaller. If you have the latter 2 cards I would build a deck if I were you just to try it out!
If you don't have those cards and don't think you will be using grumble soon, it has only 1 more expansion to go so you only run the risk that elemental shaman really becomes tier 1 there, but I highly doubt it (it is the hardest tribe condition to play with).
I don't really have kalimos or any blazecallers and only have 755 dust right now, so couldn't try that. I do feel like if I got shudderwock or more of the essential elementals I would play grumble, but at the moment it seems kinda tough to fit it anywhere on its own.
For crafts: choices B, C and D are economically speaking far better than A due to rotation. From personal experience I'd recommend Hagatha as it's an incredibly fun card.
That is true, I suppose A wouldn't last long even though I wouldn't have to craft anything else. And Hagatha does seem like the most fun of those cards... Can even shaman without Kalimos still do pretty well if I were to add Hagatha?
Grumble is a really powerful option in even shaman.
Sure, but I feel like it's powerful because of Kalimos, which I don't have, unless I'm missing something. I guess there's fire elemental and phoenix as well, but wouldn't Hagatha be more value?
He's also useful in an evenly matched board in which you trade into some threats, and your minions survive, and you want to refresh them. Think mountain giant trading into a large taunt. Also, he's a 7/7 for six, which is pretty good. You can also redeploy other battlecries like fire elemental, or reuse a charge minion. Lastly, sometimes you can save a board if you feel a clear is coming. Combos well with hagatha at times.
I'd disenchant it for C or D. Also, I play even shaman without kalimos, alakir, or Hagatha (Bonemares and lich King instead) and it works well for me. Ofc I had to also cut corpsetakers, I forget for what... Personally, I'd craft Zilliax and forget about shaman bc the card is so good haha. Up 2 you, but id stay away from the 1st two.
I've decided to disenchant the Golden Grumble for Hagatha. I might craft a regular version of him again eventually whenever I get the spare dust as most of you said he is really powerful even without Shudderwock or Kalimos.
Shudderwock shaman is not the only viable deck right now. I'd definitely keep Grumble as he is just great for battlecry minions in general and will no doubt be viable in decks coming in the future decks in the next rotation.
However, if shaman is not your main and you have been really wanting a particular legendary or even 4 epics to make a deck, feel free to disenchant, IMO.
I've decided to disenchant the Golden Grumble for Hagatha. I might craft a regular version of him again eventually whenever I get the spare dust as most of you said he is really powerful even without Shudderwock or Kalimos.
Fair enough, Hagatha is a great card. Here's a ridiculous example of both in action in even shaman. I got crazy lucky, but it demonstrates Grumble's utility (and Hagatha).
I just keep all my legendaries but zilliax is probaly the best craft. Although I'd recommend getting into wild as economically its the cheapest option.
So I got golden Grumble, Worldshaker, but have no Shudderwock or Hagatha the Witch, should I disenchant it?
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Shudderwock shaman seems like a really fun deck but since I don't have shudderwock himself and some of the other required cards for the deck I was thinking maybe I should disenchant it and make:
A) Rhok'delar, since it's the only card missing for a Spell Hunter (which still has a positive winrate to my understanding).
B) Houndmaster Shaw, since I'd only need to craft another Carnivorous Cube and a couple of rares to make Deathrattle Hunter.
C) Hagatha the Witch, so I can make an Even Shaman without Kalimos, Primal Lord.
D) Zilliax, since its a versatile card, even though I don't have any specific good deck for it.
What do you think?
Grumble is a really powerful option in even shaman.
I don't really have kalimos or any blazecallers and only have 755 dust right now, so couldn't try that. I do feel like if I got shudderwock or more of the essential elementals I would play grumble, but at the moment it seems kinda tough to fit it anywhere on its own.
That is true, I suppose A wouldn't last long even though I wouldn't have to craft anything else. And Hagatha does seem like the most fun of those cards... Can even shaman without Kalimos still do pretty well if I were to add Hagatha?
Sure, but I feel like it's powerful because of Kalimos, which I don't have, unless I'm missing something. I guess there's fire elemental and phoenix as well, but wouldn't Hagatha be more value?
Grumble, Worldshakerr is the kind of card that looks incredible on paper and is really disappointing when you actually play him.
Play him a little in elemental or even decks and you will see what I mean. It's a weird play because it's almost never good on curve and it necessitates a specific board to use him correctly.
Therefore I think most of the time it's a ''win-more'' card and I would actually exclude him from those decks. Hagatha the Witch is a much more pro-active card in my opinion so if you really want to play Shaman I would go for that, as she fits most standard and wild decks.
It''s powerful in Even shaman even outside of Kalimos. Saronite Chain Gang and the Eel along with what you mentioned. Just trading and then replaying the minions at full hp is good value, especially if you have hagatha's hero power for all those spells. You can totally build even shaman without grumble though. I would keep him as it's an awesome card but if you insist on DEing then your choices are all good (other than the hunter weapon unless you've tried spell hunter and like it).
He's also useful in an evenly matched board in which you trade into some threats, and your minions survive, and you want to refresh them. Think mountain giant trading into a large taunt. Also, he's a 7/7 for six, which is pretty good. You can also redeploy other battlecries like fire elemental, or reuse a charge minion. Lastly, sometimes you can save a board if you feel a clear is coming. Combos well with hagatha at times.
I'd disenchant it for C or D. Also, I play even shaman without kalimos, alakir, or Hagatha (Bonemares and lich King instead) and it works well for me. Ofc I had to also cut corpsetakers, I forget for what... Personally, I'd craft Zilliax and forget about shaman bc the card is so good haha. Up 2 you, but id stay away from the 1st two.
I'd go with B or C, depending on which you like more, since you're close to a deck there.
Alright everyone, thanks for your input!
I've decided to disenchant the Golden Grumble for Hagatha. I might craft a regular version of him again eventually whenever I get the spare dust as most of you said he is really powerful even without Shudderwock or Kalimos.
Shudderwock shaman is not the only viable deck right now. I'd definitely keep Grumble as he is just great for battlecry minions in general and will no doubt be viable in decks coming in the future decks in the next rotation.
However, if shaman is not your main and you have been really wanting a particular legendary or even 4 epics to make a deck, feel free to disenchant, IMO.
Especially if you're planning on crafting it later.
Fair enough, Hagatha is a great card. Here's a ridiculous example of both in action in even shaman. I got crazy lucky, but it demonstrates Grumble's utility (and Hagatha).
https://hsreplay.net/replay/4i4qbXZL2ofQDR92q3SsT5
I just keep all my legendaries but zilliax is probaly the best craft. Although I'd recommend getting into wild as economically its the cheapest option.
Then you're just wasting your dust tf. Never disenchant legendaries especially if you're thinking about recrafting them.