Hearthpwn

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10 armor with Fandral gg 

 You don't get 10 dude, Kibler started with 5.

This is probably the best dk.

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Druid's cards are so disappointing, and their is very little support for the druid quest from last expansion. I don't want to play the cheap aggro token druid, but DK is just lame. 

It is boring but effective. 

I got this card, but I haven't had a chance to play it. On paper, it looks terrible. Can someone explain why this is such a good value card?

Does it require Fandral in order to be good? Gnash every turn for 2 is not bad, but it doesn't seem to compare with, say, Shadowreaper Anduin. And that's only for as long as Fandral sticks.

Also, probably irrelevant, but it's the only hero without a battlecry. No using Brann with this guy in wild.

Looking at just the hero power, I'd rather have Warlock or Priest DK. Mage and Warrior requires a little effort before I would like them better, but not a whole lot. Paladin is about the same strength, probably a tad weaker (slower, weaker, but less damage and possibly dangerous if left alone). Hunter and Rogue provide a lot more value, but also costs a lot more (they give you a card, but you still have to pay to play it), so it's hard to compare them against the Druid HP. Ditto Shaman because you don't know what you're going to get, but I'm pretty sure Druid's power beats Shaman's.

The other comparison I made was Justicar Trueheart. The upgraded HP is possibly stronger than DK Druid's. You trade 1 attack for 2 armor. Depending on your foe, that 1 attack may or may not matter against their minions, but the extra armor works out to your advantage if you're going face and helps you use the HP more often. If these two abilities are more or less on par with each other, then you wouldn't expect this to be used since the Justicar wasn't.

As for the battlecry, do you consider 2 insects better than 1 6/3? I think it depends on what you're up against. Since writing my earlier post, I've come to accept that the poison insects might actually be worth the loss in pure stats. Not every game, of course, but maybe on average. The taunt bugs are ridiculously weak at this stage of the game, but you can make them decent with that bolster guy.

In practice, the pace of the game is slower than when Justicar was in standard, so it's been working out for me. Not as well as some of the others, but it's still worth adding to your deck if you happen to get it.

Hero Power so good I've almost considered running Savagery.

Almost.

Much better than expected...

Problem with druids: New druid hero and jades 

This cards power creep is too ridiculous. Justicar is 6 mana make your hero power give you 2/2 stats. This card is a 7 mana, spawn 2 stupidly hard to remove taunts or 2 instant removals AND +3 atk or +3 armour and combined with fandral its give your hero 3/3 worth of stats every turn. How is this card balanced in any way? Not to mention already having ultimate infestation and so many other armour giving cards and draw cards to make jade so strong. This card can swing the game so hard just because of its ridiculous power creep. There is a difference between making a card the "best card of the set" and the most broken and unplayable against card in the set. You see druids doing things like turn 1 wild growth, turn 2 jade blossom and innervate this hero out and when that happens you just lose. Now that innervate is getting nerfed it doesn't make much of an impact on jade anyways. Basically, with druids ability to draw so much, this card usually comes out super early and when it does, you basically lose the game 90% of the time. I think blizzard ought to either nerf this to be justicar stats of just +2/+2 just because of its insane battlecry effect. Even with the innervate nerf, it isn't going to affect the meta much because jade druid can just use the coin to ramp up quickly also. The main problem is this heroes battlecry effect And/Or the jades. A nerf should hit one of these because reguardless, the meta game is stupid and it is going to continue to be stupid until blizzard does something about it. It is ridiculous to have all the tier 1 decks to be druid because as of right now, unless straight up the new hero is nerfed or jade golems are nerfed, the problem will still persist and this is definitely NOT educational or helpful to players with this deck being so ladder desstructive.

pretty good card

Great Card!

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I got this card, but I haven't had a chance to play it. On paper, it looks terrible. Can someone explain why this is such a good value card?

Does it require Fandral in order to be good? Gnash every turn for 2 is not bad, but it doesn't seem to compare with, say, Shadowreaper Anduin. And that's only for as long as Fandral sticks.

Also, probably irrelevant, but it's the only hero without a battlecry. No using Brann with this guy in wild.

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Looking at just the hero power, I'd rather have Warlock or Priest DK. Mage and Warrior requires a little effort before I would like them better, but not a whole lot. Paladin is about the same strength, probably a tad weaker (slower, weaker, but less damage and possibly dangerous if left alone). Hunter and Rogue provide a lot more value, but also costs a lot more (they give you a card, but you still have to pay to play it), so it's hard to compare them against the Druid HP. Ditto Shaman because you don't know what you're going to get, but I'm pretty sure Druid's power beats Shaman's.

The other comparison I made was Justicar Trueheart. The upgraded HP is possibly stronger than DK Druid's. You trade 1 attack for 2 armor. Depending on your foe, that 1 attack may or may not matter against their minions, but the extra armor works out to your advantage if you're going face and helps you use the HP more often. If these two abilities are more or less on par with each other, then you wouldn't expect this to be used since the Justicar wasn't.

As for the battlecry, do you consider 2 insects better than 1 6/3? I think it depends on what you're up against. Since writing my earlier post, I've come to accept that the poison insects might actually be worth the loss in pure stats. Not every game, of course, but maybe on average. The taunt bugs are ridiculously weak at this stage of the game, but you can make them decent with that bolster guy.

In practice, the pace of the game is slower than when Justicar was in standard, so it's been working out for me. Not as well as some of the others, but it's still worth adding to your deck if you happen to get it.

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Much better than expected...