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I just realised that another anti-battlecry card like Nerubian Weblord could solve some of the issues.

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Quote from RiftValleyHS >>

I just realised that another anti-battlecry card like Nerubian Weblord could solve some of the issues.

 Except that weblord sucks. Terrible statline, and cockblocks your own battlecries too.

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Quote from RiftValleyHS >>

I just realised that another anti-battlecry card like Nerubian Weblord could solve some of the issues.

 Except that weblord sucks. Terrible statline, and cockblocks your own battlecries too.

 I considered running that card in Wild for the Crystal Rogue mirror match but haven't gotten around to it yet. 1/4 isn't that spectacular, but as a 5/5? much harder to remove.

And you are precisely right - avoiding battlecry is very tempo inefficient and the archetype as it is now can't afford to do that. But as 5/5's in conjunction with Gang Up it could be possible to lock your opponent out of playing certain minions. Probably not worth the effort. An entertaining idea, but not one I bothered pursuing all that seriously.

There's a better gang up combo in wild, you play deckhand/patches, gang up patches, then bounce one of the pirates and play it again for 30/30 charge

I run that combo in a Pirate/Finja Rogue deck, it's pretty good. Normally Gang Up is a slow play limited by your draw speed but because Patches can 'tutor' himself out of your deck when you play any pirate, it overcomes that limitation.

Quote from WraithM >>

I run that combo in a Pirate/Finja Rogue deck, it's pretty good. Normally Gang Up is a slow play limited by your draw speed but because Patches can 'tutor' himself out of your deck when you play any pirate, it overcomes that limitation.

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So hearstone from now is that u have to play one archetype to counter another ?

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Quote from WraithM >>

I run that combo in a Pirate/Finja Rogue deck, it's pretty good. Normally Gang Up is a slow play limited by your draw speed but because Patches can 'tutor' himself out of your deck when you play any pirate, it overcomes that limitation.

People use that combo with southsea captain. It's not really good, it's only good in quest rogue because it's not 3 1/1 or 2/2 charges, but it's ultimately 6 5/5 charges which is an OTK.

I used to do ok with Miracle Quest Rogue deck, but not so much lately. The past few weeks have been terrible. 45% win rate from 35 games.

When it first came out my win rate was well above 55%.

It seems that many decks counter well now. As well as Blizzard buries my bounce cards in the bottom of my deck.

Everyone keeps pissing and moaning about the quest rogue needing to be nerfed...I strongly disagree. The quest is another "miracle" deck for the rogue...if the miracle happens you win...if not...painful loss.

Quote from Bushmaster22 >>

I used to do ok with Miracle Quest Rogue deck, but not so much lately. The past few weeks have been terrible. 45% win rate from 35 games.

When it first came out my win rate was well above 55%.

It seems that many decks counter well now. As well as Blizzard buries my bounce cards in the bottom of my deck.

Everyone keeps pissing and moaning about the quest rogue needing to be nerfed...I strongly disagree. The quest is another "miracle" deck for the rogue...if the miracle happens you win...if not...painful loss.

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Even quest or pirate warrior is a lot more fun to play against.

Thing is when the rogue quest completes a on turn 7/8. Then at least you have had some time for preparations  the match up feels more balanced and fun then.

When you use a lot of resources to clear the board of your opponent and the moment his turn comes around and he vommits his board full again with 1 mana big-ass minions is considered to be: NO FUN TO PLAY AGAINST!!! I doesn't feel fair. Ok the game needs some unfair minions or games will last forever, but endless minions with broken stats?

But I am having a good time with my new kazakus priest deck. It does pretty well against all decks even vs jades. Hardest match up is quest rogue. I can beat it, but I often auto concede when they finish quest on turn 4 when I have no board clear in hand. So much fun... not. Have a good day peeps!

Bashing your head against the wall is more fun than playing against Quest Rogue.
Can't help but laugh at the poster above me.
You complete quest at turn 7 or 8?
You must be doing something wrong then, because every single Quest Rogue I played against recently managed to complete quest by turn 5.

Luckily, I play Pirate Warrior and successfully fight cancer with cancer.

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You must be doing something wrong then, because every single Quest Rogue I played against recently managed to complete quest by turn 5. 

Bad draws? Un-optimized experimental lists? Not everyone rushes the quest? Selective Perception? A matter of luck/rng? The list could go on, but I appreciate your concern. When I said generally, what I meant was more that it was a fairly even spread between turns 5 to 8, which is what you see on the chart below from hsreplay.net

https://hsreplay.net/cards/41222/the-caverns-below/#tab=quest-completion

No one probably cares but that's wrong chart. It should be a bar chart.

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Quote from Bushmaster22 >>

I used to do ok with Miracle Quest Rogue deck, but not so much lately. The past few weeks have been terrible. 45% win rate from 35 games.

When it first came out my win rate was well above 55%.

It seems that many decks counter well now. As well as Blizzard buries my bounce cards in the bottom of my deck.

Everyone keeps pissing and moaning about the quest rogue needing to be nerfed...I strongly disagree. The quest is another "miracle" deck for the rogue...if the miracle happens you win...if not...painful loss.

Except that Quest Rogue can close the game by turn 5 or 6, while Miracle has to struggle a lot more. Also Miracle allows the opponent to react and actually play while Quest is like a solo-game.

Once again: the issue with Quest Rogue it's not its win rate, but the completly un-interactive gameplay it has. Or at last this is MY main reason to call for a fix to the deck.

You guys are bitching about the wrong thing.

We have rockpool hunter and primordial glyph. Rogue quest isn't even close to being an issue.

Quote from scout1515 >>

You guys are bitching about the wrong thing.

We have rockpool hunter and primordial glyph. Rogue quest isn't even close to being an issue.

Quote from Leonlx >>

I think the problem isn't that its that hard to beat.  It has a lower win rate than a lot of other decks. The problem is that whether you win or lose is out of your control. The winner is decided by how good each persons hand is, os sometime you just lose because of your deck.

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You guys are bitching about the wrong thing.

We have rockpool hunter and primordial glyph. Rogue quest isn't even close to being an issue.