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Quote from LordPikachuStarscream >>

As it stands, the real reason why vanilla minions aren't played is because they don't offer support to any archetypes. Chillwind Yeti is a perfectly good card, but it doesn't stack jades, doesn't stack C'thun, isn't a dragon, isn't a deathrattle, isn't a combo piece, etc. There is very little incentive to run a vanilla minion over anything else. 

Interesting? That's relative to the individual. For me, a 10 mana 15/15 doesn't wow me, but maybe 20/20.

Used? Never. No 10 mana minion lacking an ability will ever be used, which is why I say 20/20 for "interesting."

People don't even find blood of the ancient ones 30/30 as even slightly good even if bloods we're playable

even a 15/15 is fine. Keep in mind we are not talking about facing aggro decks because there is no point discussing any card over 8 mana. Like seriously, its so easy to go into late game and not have a single target removal. There are so many control match-ups where its a top deck fight. It's so easy to tempo out removal by just putting out threats on board. Like for Renolock- Abyssal enforcer, Rag, Twilight drake, Mountain Giant, Slyvannas, Emporer generally take the bait. Most of the classes have cards that can bait out the removal (some midrange decks like Dragon Priest run only 1 death, mages also run only one polymorph).

Like seriously, 20/20 minion wont see play? Wow. I'll put it in all my decks everytime man!

the only 2 Vanillas that ever saw play in constructed were Yeti and Bog Creeper, the former was because the card pool was limited, the later was because of a crusher shamman variation called bogchamp shamman or mean shamman that saw play in tournaments because it was able to target some agressive decks, otherwise vanillas see no play because the effects of the cards are more important

The problem isn't ruining constructed but ruining Arena. A 15/15 neutral common might see zero play, but will ruin Arena for all entirety. I'm glad Blizzard isn't trying to push a strong vanilla 10 mana card and ruin arena while likely still having it see zero play. 

10 Mana 11/11

Cannot be targeted by ANY spells or battlecry. 

Meaning it cannot be affected by AOE as well.

In MSG? None would see play. If the meta slowed down it would need to have a game winning impact to see play, and would depend on how much removal is around. 

It isn't that they aren't useful and wouldn't sometime soon work, but if it gets hit with removal and your opponent drops another card you are losing a lot of tempo and value. If you play a big minion   (Say Rag or Ysera) with an effectand it gets cleared cheaply you at least got the tempo/value of the effect. 

So unless you have a combo to tie with it I think probably needs to be 30/30. 

Quote from Infirc >>

the only 2 Vanillas that ever saw play in constructed were Yeti and Bog Creeper, the former was because the card pool was limited, the later was because of a crusher shamman variation called bogchamp shamman or mean shamman that saw play in tournaments because it was able to target some agressive decks, otherwise vanillas see no play because the effects of the cards are more important

Man if Faceless Behemoth reads this thread he's gonna cry himself to sleep tonight

Let's see we have a (0) 5/5 Taunt, a (4) 8/8, a (4) 4/8, a (0) 8/8, a (2) 3/4, a (1) 2/3 all of which see play in competitive decks. I guess if they just print vanilla cards with statlines like that, they'll see play.

Quote from Pixywing >>

The problem isn't ruining constructed but ruining Arena. A 15/15 neutral common might see zero play, but will ruin Arena for all entirety. I'm glad Blizzard isn't trying to push a strong vanilla 10 mana card and ruin arena while likely still having it see zero play.