Well it is actually a bad card you are going to pay 2 mana for an extra copy of a spell in your deck and it is not guaranteed that you are going to draw what you need.
Most people think its for OTK priest, I think this is an alternative for Priest if you couldn't mulligan removal in early game, how many times you wish to top deck Holy Nova or have Auchenai Soulpriest without Circle of Healing?
I consider this card unusual enough to not disregard it immediately. It might enable a consistent OTK Priest. Might be used in Priests with very few spells to pull it when it's needed. I can imagine having one in a Dragon priest to fish for AoE or Shadow words when necessary. Might replace a Power Word: Shield
Edit: Would be great if you could discover a spell from your deck.
Properly reading a card could really help in understanding what is written on it. With discover I think this is a playable card. You will not have many spells and this is then an AoE or any other support card you can need in a specific situation.
You can also mulligan Awaken the Masters and then use this to get a second legendary secret! 2x the Amara, 2x the fun!
The new cards are getting keywords such as "Quest" or "permanent" to allow not only more diversity to hearthstone (just like the elemental tag adding more synergy), but also so quest cards can't be copied by spells such as this new priest card.
You can also mulligan Awaken the Masters and then use this to get a second legendary secret! 2x the Amara, 2x the fun!
The new cards are getting keywords such as "Quest" or "permanent" to allow not only more diversity to hearthstone (just like the elemental tag adding more synergy), but also so quest cards can't be copied by spells such as this new priest card.
Don't say thing you don't know anything about.
This is what Mike Donais said on reddit:
Yes, you can mulligan your quest away and then Shadow Visions to get it and then complete it. However you can only have one quest in play at a time.
Quests can't be found from random outside of game effects but cards like Mind Vision or Thoughtsteal can find them.
Quests are spells, just like secrets are spells too. Quests can't be randomly generated by for example Yogg-Saron, but they can be copied.
Compare to MTG tutor cards and you can see why this might be a lot better than it looks. Great card in a slower meta, I think, but when was the last time we had that?
Yeah, I can definitely see this being an include in a highlander deck. Being able to have two copies of a spell in a deck full of non-duplicates seems like it could be very powerful.
And yes, the tutor aspect of being able to fish for what you need when you need it definitely has merit. I do raise an eyebrow at the 2 mana cost but ultimately I think it'll be a good card. It's like a slightly more expensive Raven Idol with a more specific selection. When I think of it that way, it does seem pretty good.
As already mentioned, it's basically a Tutor card, and anyone who played MtG will know just how important/powerful these are.
Actually, considering the draw-RNG reliance in HS due to small starting hand size, I think the introduction of tutor-like cards is desperately needed to have more consistency in decks overall (less RNG-stone is good!)
The only thing I hope is that all classes get something like this, possibly in a flavor matching the class.
Silence priest synergistic card, check, you can get a copy of purify into your hand just think about the posibilities! 8 mana 7/7 draw a card!!! ... wait
And, well, I guess with time you will see why this is *very* powerful, probably even too powerful in a highlander deck (maybe ok in a priest, but RenoMage or RenoLock would be brutal with a card like this)
What we learned from the spellbook tavern brawl is that being able to discover a card in your deck is actually pretty strong. I think it is good. Admittedly though discover effects/draw effects to me are worth 1 mana but this is 2 mana, however because this discovers a card in your deck than I guess it is more guaranteed you will get a good card. Anyway this does not "do nothing" because it may get you exactly what you need such as discovering a shadow word: death when the other guy has played a flamewreathed faceless. It may be slightly overcosted at 2 mana, however discovering a card from your deck may actually be worth the 2 mana because discover effects tend to be really good when there are narrower options. We'll see, I think this card is good but it may end up flopping as well, but in any case it is a cool card.
I'll definitely test it out, this will see standard play just to see how good it is.
This isn't mtg. There are already tutors out there in Hearthstone and this new card is not the "closest to tutor cards you will ever see".
And I never said this card is weak, read again. But actually... this card IS weak, and will never see play in Standard, and will never see play in 80% of wild priest decks either. Will be auto-include in otk priest of course and that's about it.
Relax, just saying, a "Tutor card" is a term that predates HS, and that's how people use the expression. You're arguing against the most common use of words. Language doesn't really work that way.
As for the the power and seeing use, well, I'm not going to argue you, we will both see soon enough ;)
Probably because most of hearthpwn community has no idea about deck building and they catch whatever makes sense to them like his post but then most of the time theyre wrong...
You are are comparing this card with 2 trash cards that discover a RANDOM card.
Priest rarely has anything to do on turn two, especially now without agent. But now he can copy a powerful removal spell or aoe for example. In a kazakus deck that is huge as the deck runs out of removal fast.
This card is an auto include in non duplicate decks I reckon.
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Well it is actually a bad card you are going to pay 2 mana for an extra copy of a spell in your deck and it is not guaranteed that you are going to draw what you need.
Exactly what I was thinking, even having a 4th spell isn't that bad of odds of getting exactly what you need.
Most people think its for OTK priest, I think this is an alternative for Priest if you couldn't mulligan removal in early game, how many times you wish to top deck Holy Nova or have Auchenai Soulpriest without Circle of Healing?
I consider this card unusual enough to not disregard it immediately. It might enable a consistent OTK Priest. Might be used in Priests with very few spells to pull it when it's needed. I can imagine having one in a Dragon priest to fish for AoE or Shadow words when necessary. Might replace a Power Word: Shield
Edit: Would be great if you could discover a spell from your deck.Edit 2: Shadow Visions
Properly reading a card could really help in understanding what is written on it. With discover I think this is a playable card. You will not have many spells and this is then an AoE or any other support card you can need in a specific situation.
Hard to judge this card.
Could be amazing, could be utter refuse.
Quests are spells, just like secrets are spells too. Quests can't be randomly generated by for example Yogg-Saron, but they can be copied.
So yes, you can actually have 3 Amaras with this.
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Compare to MTG tutor cards and you can see why this might be a lot better than it looks. Great card in a slower meta, I think, but when was the last time we had that?
Yeah, I can definitely see this being an include in a highlander deck. Being able to have two copies of a spell in a deck full of non-duplicates seems like it could be very powerful.
And yes, the tutor aspect of being able to fish for what you need when you need it definitely has merit. I do raise an eyebrow at the 2 mana cost but ultimately I think it'll be a good card. It's like a slightly more expensive Raven Idol with a more specific selection. When I think of it that way, it does seem pretty good.
As already mentioned, it's basically a Tutor card, and anyone who played MtG will know just how important/powerful these are.
Actually, considering the draw-RNG reliance in HS due to small starting hand size, I think the introduction of tutor-like cards is desperately needed to have more consistency in decks overall (less RNG-stone is good!)
The only thing I hope is that all classes get something like this, possibly in a flavor matching the class.
Silence priest synergistic card, check, you can get a copy of purify into your hand just think about the posibilities! 8 mana 7/7 draw a card!!! ... wait
If they allow Shadowform to upgrade to 4 and 5 damage then I'll get excited.
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What we learned from the spellbook tavern brawl is that being able to discover a card in your deck is actually pretty strong. I think it is good. Admittedly though discover effects/draw effects to me are worth 1 mana but this is 2 mana, however because this discovers a card in your deck than I guess it is more guaranteed you will get a good card. Anyway this does not "do nothing" because it may get you exactly what you need such as discovering a shadow word: death when the other guy has played a flamewreathed faceless. It may be slightly overcosted at 2 mana, however discovering a card from your deck may actually be worth the 2 mana because discover effects tend to be really good when there are narrower options. We'll see, I think this card is good but it may end up flopping as well, but in any case it is a cool card.
I'll definitely test it out, this will see standard play just to see how good it is.
You're arguing against the most common use of words. Language doesn't really work that way.
As for the the power and seeing use, well, I'm not going to argue you, we will both see soon enough ;)
Probably because most of hearthpwn community has no idea about deck building and they catch whatever makes sense to them like his post but then most of the time theyre wrong...
Can't wait to copy ungoro packs xD
Discover cards w/o a body are to slow. Better having the spell you want in your deck in the first place and save a card and 2 mana.
You are are comparing this card with 2 trash cards that discover a RANDOM card.
Priest rarely has anything to do on turn two, especially now without agent. But now he can copy a powerful removal spell or aoe for example. In a kazakus deck that is huge as the deck runs out of removal fast.
This card is an auto include in non duplicate decks I reckon.