At the beginning of the month, I made a post asking for help with Heroic Free Medivh over here. After some tips on using a C'Thun Priest deck to victory, I came rather close to finishing this one, but took lethal Fatigue damage on the turn that I would have been able to kill Malchezaar. The deck I was using is this:
However, I'm getting really sick of using C'Thun Priest. I've been at this for 5 hours now and I haven't been able to get it done. Are there any other decks besides Kel'Thuzad Shaman or Anyfin Paladin (Both of which I will not spend the dust crafting the legendaries for) that can work?
Was there any trick you used to play this deck effectively against the bosses? I might try this out after I'm done breaking keyboards and flipping tables.
I beat Heroic Malchezaar on my third try using that deck. Read the suggestion I posted. If you follow those steps (keeping Nazra alive until you have Brann AND Cthun in hand with at least one of them discounted enough so both can be played on ONE TURN), you should be able to beat him fairly easily on the SECOND TURN of Malchezaar itself. TWO X LIGHTWELLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT as they are completely ignored by Nazra.
I believe I stalled the first half of the boss untill I got Kel'thuzad with 2 ancestral spirits on him. Then when Malchezar casts Twisting Nether, You will immediatly have 4 KelThu'zads to start the turn with
I actually just gave the Lightwells a go, but Nazra actually attacked and destroyed them. How long ago did you defeat the boss? They reformed the A.I. of the bosses when the Taunted Explosive Sheep exploit was still around. They might have increased the priority on Lightwells, because Nazra already tries to remove my Tournament Medics.
Sorry for not mentioning that earlier, but that's just my experience.
I'll give it another go. Perhaps I'll try to use the Lightwells more strategically.
I actually just gave the Lightwells a go, but Nazra actually attacked and destroyed them. How long ago did you defeat the boss? They reformed the A.I. of the bosses when the Taunted Explosive Sheep exploit was still around. They might have increased the priority on Lightwells, because Nazra already tries to remove my Tournament Medics.
Sorry for not mentioning that earlier, but that's just my experience.
I'll give it another go. Perhaps I'll try to use the Lightwells more strategically.
I beat Malchezaar Heroic on Nov 19th, 2016 :P That's the day I created my post in that decklist here on Hearthpwn :D
There were times when Nazra would attack my Lightwells, yes, but most of the time it did not. I don't know why :P
Yogg-Saron, Hope's End was able to randomly kill Malchezaar with Sacrificial Pact (even though if you manually cast Sacrificial Pact on him, it won't work).
A card that is more consistent than Yogg-Saron, Hope's End is the new Mayor Noggenfogger. Since you can include 2 Sacrificial Pacts in your deck and then save them for the Malchezaar encounter, I wonder if it would be possible to target one of the two Abyssals that Malchezaar spawns with his hero power and then have it randomly zip to Malchezaar's face and kill him Yogg-Saron style.
It's worth a shot, I'd say. I've put this together. Any suggestions? (I don't play Warlock).
It took me some attempts with several decks to beat this, but the one that worked for me was indeed the C'Thun Priest deck that gets posted often.
The objective is to toy around with Nazra, keeping up the heals and board control until you have only a few cards left in your deck. Normally, her minions will only attack yours if they can kill it in one hit, otherwise they go for face.
So what I did, was mulligan until I had Twilight Elder and Power Word: Glory in my starting hand, gave the Power Word to the Twilight Elder, kept him alive to control the Orc Warriors each turn while he was buffing up C'Thun and healing my hero. A few turns in, drew Hooded Acolyte and Tournament Medic, scoring up the stats for C'Thun each turn with every heal.
I drew C'Thun with 4 cards left in my deck. Nazra was topdecking, board was mostly under control, and C'Thun was at 90 attack, so I finished her off, played the big ol' eye after Twisting Nether and effectively skipped all of Phase 2. My C'Thun was at 90 attack, but as long as you can get him to 72, that is enough to obliterate Malchezaar and his first two Infernals in one shot.
Don't rush through Phase 1. It seems nigh impossible at the start, but when you play with patience you will be surprised that it's not so difficult at all.
Also, @everyone else, I don't think the Mayor Noggenfogger - Sacrificial Pact combo works. I've gotten the scenario set up at least 5 times and every single time the pacts targeted the Abyssals.
. I do not think the Sacrificial Pact will work. There is a special interaction with Malchezaar AI and that card. Please let me know if the deck worked for you. I did not want to craft Kel'thuzad and I managed to beat it this way. Good luck.
I know that you can't directly target Malchezaar with Sacrificial Pact, but I also saw a clip where Yogg-Saron, Hope's End randomly cast Sacrificial Pact and killed Malchezaar. I thought, therefore, it would be possible to kill him if he was randomly designated with Mayor Noggenfogger's effect. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be the case.
I see how that would work. I was wondering about if I could perform something that my friend called the "Exodia Combo" where you play 2 Sorcerer's Apprentices, play 2 Echo of Medivhs, Emperor Thaurissan with those 4 Apprentices, Archmage Antonidas, and a spell that costs 4 mana or less, and then get infinite damage next turn with free fireballs to the enemy face.
The problem is that I don't want to spend 800 dust on the Echoes...
If I find some way to get the spare dust for the Wild cards, I'll give your deck a shot. It looks promising.
THERE! I JUST BEAT HIM AGAIN using my deck (posted above). I did this on my 5th try (with numerous restarts after mulligan to get low-value minions).
See that 5/3 weapon she has equipped? She couldn't use that to kill my taunts coz of her low health. I even had to heal her so that she won't die from taking damage coz she had no cards left.
Once I got my Cthun, I killed her. I knew now I could play Brann + Cthun and could OTK Malchezaar in the next turn and that's what I did.
BAM! HE'S DEAD!
I did this again to show you my deck STILL works and you've been trying to beat him for SO LONG :P
Just have some patience, use taunts and Lightwells to stay alive, and reduce her health to low levels, so even if she has a weapon equipped, she won't be able to kill your taunt coz of her low health.
Plus one to the deck above by Kazekage_Gaara, I switched out twin emperor for a second rate bruiser. Proof here: https://youtu.be/KyBpWamsVNY (ignore the misplays :|)
I found that lightwells would almost always be killed very quickly so these were saved until after the taunts.
First step was to stabilise the board a bit with the cheaper minions, using taunts if need be, twilight elders are good for this since they have 4 health so can trade with two minions. Ideally you can knock her down to low health so the weapons can't be used on your minions.
Second step was to drop the taunts and lightwells if available which should provide a barrier to Nazra. You can also buff the taunts if available (though this can make execute painful).
Third step is to drop hooded acolytes to start buffing C'thun and to drop Thaurissan to discount Brann or C'thun.
The thing is, after you're done surviving the onslaught by trading with C'Thun's Chosen, Power Word: Glory, and Twilight Elder, you want to start using your large amount of taunts to bait out her removals.
Nazra has two copies of each of these four removal cards in her deck:
Unfortunately, in the video, I didn't count properly, and Nazra killed my Emperor Thaurissan one turn early due to a Mortal Strike at 7:34 in. This made playing Brann Bronzebeard very risky to play, even behind the Second-Rate Bruiser and Sunwalker. I could have been hit by a Shadow Bolt Volley and things would have been (just about) over. Then again, with a 74/74 C'Thun, I think I would have had exact lethal even without Brann since I had attacked with Atiesh on the previous turn and would have attacked again with it the following turn.
Anyways, the plan is this:
Survive until you can start playing some taunts. Don't play Lightwells yet; if you play them too early, Nazra will actually kill them. Same goes for your Northshire Clerics; only play them if you can immediately heal a minion and get a draw. However, the Clerics are great for baiting out some of her removal cards if you hide them behind taunts.
Take Nazra's health down to a very low number. This makes it so that if you have a taunt with a higher attack value than Nazra's current health, she can't swing her weapon.
Once you've successfully shut down her assault behind your massive 6/16 Bog Creeper, play your Lightwells and your Hooded Acolytes. This allows you to give your C'Thun a 6/6 buff every single turn if both Lightwells are healing a target and you're using your hero power.
Try to carry the match into Fatigue against Nazra. She has two copies of Looming Presence, so she should run out of cards before you unless you were able to keep the Clerics up (which shouldn't be so since they're often and rightfully the targets of a Bash or a Mortal Strike)
*Just a tip, but try and playEmperor Thaurissan as late as possible. Try not to play it too late, but try to have it on board with at least one of the two cards you're looking to discount: Brann Bronzebeard or C'Thun. You need two turns with both in your hand or three turns with one in your hand to guarantee the OTK, remember.
After Nazra dies (hopefully from Fatigue), just dump your Brann'Thun combo on Malchezaar. You're going to need C'Thun to be at least 36/36 to guarantee a kill on Prince Malchezaar's 60 total health with his 2 6/6 Abyssals out there from his hero power.
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This was a huge triumph. Finally, I am freed from the curse. Special thanks to everyone here for helping on both of my threads on the matter, especially Kazekage_Gaara for being so patient with me. lmao
If you're having trouble, hopefully my thorough guide will help.
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At the beginning of the month, I made a post asking for help with Heroic Free Medivh over here. After some tips on using a C'Thun Priest deck to victory, I came rather close to finishing this one, but took lethal Fatigue damage on the turn that I would have been able to kill Malchezaar. The deck I was using is this:
However, I'm getting really sick of using C'Thun Priest. I've been at this for 5 hours now and I haven't been able to get it done. Are there any other decks besides Kel'Thuzad Shaman or Anyfin Paladin (Both of which I will not spend the dust crafting the legendaries for) that can work?
My collection is here: http://www.hearthpwn.com/members/WhiteYoshi_YL/collection
Well, this is the worst, most luck dependant heroic boss from all adventures. A faiĺfrom the developers side. Total fail. I gave up on this one.
--Alfi--
I've managed to do it with this one, and it doesn't have a legendary you did not own ;)
My previous recommendation in your earlier thread still stands...
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/adventures/182986-taking-on-heroic-final-malchezaar-on-a-budget-need#c6
I beat Heroic Malchezaar on my third try using that deck. Read the suggestion I posted. If you follow those steps (keeping Nazra alive until you have Brann AND Cthun in hand with at least one of them discounted enough so both can be played on ONE TURN), you should be able to beat him fairly easily on the SECOND TURN of Malchezaar itself. TWO X LIGHTWELLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT as they are completely ignored by Nazra.
Check it out...
I believe I stalled the first half of the boss untill I got Kel'thuzad with 2 ancestral spirits on him. Then when Malchezar casts Twisting Nether, You will immediatly have 4 KelThu'zads to start the turn with
I actually just gave the Lightwells a go, but Nazra actually attacked and destroyed them. How long ago did you defeat the boss? They reformed the A.I. of the bosses when the Taunted Explosive Sheep exploit was still around. They might have increased the priority on Lightwells, because Nazra already tries to remove my Tournament Medics.
Sorry for not mentioning that earlier, but that's just my experience.
I'll give it another go. Perhaps I'll try to use the Lightwells more strategically.
I just had this idea when I was on the can.
Yogg-Saron, Hope's End was able to randomly kill Malchezaar with Sacrificial Pact (even though if you manually cast Sacrificial Pact on him, it won't work).
A card that is more consistent than Yogg-Saron, Hope's End is the new Mayor Noggenfogger. Since you can include 2 Sacrificial Pacts in your deck and then save them for the Malchezaar encounter, I wonder if it would be possible to target one of the two Abyssals that Malchezaar spawns with his hero power and then have it randomly zip to Malchezaar's face and kill him Yogg-Saron style.
It's worth a shot, I'd say. I've put this together. Any suggestions? (I don't play Warlock).
Did you beat him yet? I have tried plenty of decks but I can't win. I tried the C'thun priest posted in this thread and it didn't work
It took me some attempts with several decks to beat this, but the one that worked for me was indeed the C'Thun Priest deck that gets posted often.
The objective is to toy around with Nazra, keeping up the heals and board control until you have only a few cards left in your deck. Normally, her minions will only attack yours if they can kill it in one hit, otherwise they go for face.
So what I did, was mulligan until I had Twilight Elder and Power Word: Glory in my starting hand, gave the Power Word to the Twilight Elder, kept him alive to control the Orc Warriors each turn while he was buffing up C'Thun and healing my hero. A few turns in, drew Hooded Acolyte and Tournament Medic, scoring up the stats for C'Thun each turn with every heal.
I drew C'Thun with 4 cards left in my deck. Nazra was topdecking, board was mostly under control, and C'Thun was at 90 attack, so I finished her off, played the big ol' eye after Twisting Nether and effectively skipped all of Phase 2. My C'Thun was at 90 attack, but as long as you can get him to 72, that is enough to obliterate Malchezaar and his first two Infernals in one shot.
Don't rush through Phase 1. It seems nigh impossible at the start, but when you play with patience you will be surprised that it's not so difficult at all.
Tell us if that random sac pac strategy works out. I'm gonna try it out if it really works
I managed to beat it in Heroic today using Secret Mage. It was tough and a lot of RNG was needed but feelsgoodman.
@Isdbankai Got a decklist?
Also, @everyone else, I don't think the Mayor Noggenfogger - Sacrificial Pact combo works. I've gotten the scenario set up at least 5 times and every single time the pacts targeted the Abyssals.
@WhiteYoshi_YL
Sure , I created this deck with a little guide more or less.
Edit: I found the interaction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y0ee4u1jj0 , go to minute 1: 28 .
I know that you can't directly target Malchezaar with Sacrificial Pact, but I also saw a clip where Yogg-Saron, Hope's End randomly cast Sacrificial Pact and killed Malchezaar. I thought, therefore, it would be possible to kill him if he was randomly designated with Mayor Noggenfogger's effect. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be the case.
I see how that would work. I was wondering about if I could perform something that my friend called the "Exodia Combo" where you play 2 Sorcerer's Apprentices, play 2 Echo of Medivhs, Emperor Thaurissan with those 4 Apprentices, Archmage Antonidas, and a spell that costs 4 mana or less, and then get infinite damage next turn with free fireballs to the enemy face.
The problem is that I don't want to spend 800 dust on the Echoes...
If I find some way to get the spare dust for the Wild cards, I'll give your deck a shot. It looks promising.
THERE! I JUST BEAT HIM AGAIN using my deck (posted above). I did this on my 5th try (with numerous restarts after mulligan to get low-value minions).
See that 5/3 weapon she has equipped? She couldn't use that to kill my taunts coz of her low health. I even had to heal her so that she won't die from taking damage coz she had no cards left.
Once I got my Cthun, I killed her. I knew now I could play Brann + Cthun and could OTK Malchezaar in the next turn and that's what I did.
BAM! HE'S DEAD!
I did this again to show you my deck STILL works and you've been trying to beat him for SO LONG :P
Just have some patience, use taunts and Lightwells to stay alive, and reduce her health to low levels, so even if she has a weapon equipped, she won't be able to kill your taunt coz of her low health.
If you have any questions, let me know :)
Plus one to the deck above by Kazekage_Gaara, I switched out twin emperor for a second rate bruiser. Proof here: https://youtu.be/KyBpWamsVNY (ignore the misplays :|)
I found that lightwells would almost always be killed very quickly so these were saved until after the taunts.
First step was to stabilise the board a bit with the cheaper minions, using taunts if need be, twilight elders are good for this since they have 4 health so can trade with two minions. Ideally you can knock her down to low health so the weapons can't be used on your minions.
Second step was to drop the taunts and lightwells if available which should provide a barrier to Nazra. You can also buff the taunts if available (though this can make execute painful).
Third step is to drop hooded acolytes to start buffing C'thun and to drop Thaurissan to discount Brann or C'thun.
Hope this helps
I did it. It took a good few tries, but I did it.
The thing is, after you're done surviving the onslaught by trading with C'Thun's Chosen, Power Word: Glory, and Twilight Elder, you want to start using your large amount of taunts to bait out her removals.
Nazra has two copies of each of these four removal cards in her deck:
Unfortunately, in the video, I didn't count properly, and Nazra killed my Emperor Thaurissan one turn early due to a Mortal Strike at 7:34 in. This made playing Brann Bronzebeard very risky to play, even behind the Second-Rate Bruiser and Sunwalker. I could have been hit by a Shadow Bolt Volley and things would have been (just about) over. Then again, with a 74/74 C'Thun, I think I would have had exact lethal even without Brann since I had attacked with Atiesh on the previous turn and would have attacked again with it the following turn.
Anyways, the plan is this:
*Just a tip, but try and playEmperor Thaurissan as late as possible. Try not to play it too late, but try to have it on board with at least one of the two cards you're looking to discount: Brann Bronzebeard or C'Thun. You need two turns with both in your hand or three turns with one in your hand to guarantee the OTK, remember.
After Nazra dies (hopefully from Fatigue), just dump your Brann'Thun combo on Malchezaar. You're going to need C'Thun to be at least 36/36 to guarantee a kill on Prince Malchezaar's 60 total health with his 2 6/6 Abyssals out there from his hero power.
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This was a huge triumph. Finally, I am freed from the curse. Special thanks to everyone here for helping on both of my threads on the matter, especially Kazekage_Gaara for being so patient with me. lmao
If you're having trouble, hopefully my thorough guide will help.