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I am playing wild Priest, and have yet to face a giant deck  (lucky me). How does Priest perform against the giant decks? Lightbomb and Priest DK must be tough on them. 

 I am playing a combo OTK priest, I have faced this deck, in it's varied versions, 8 times this season alone. I am right now 4-4, 50%. It all comes down to whether you mange to Lightbomb in time, or discover it through Shadow Visions. Later, it is up to DK Hero effect and the right 10 mana Kazakus [/card]potion. If you have [card]Dirty Rat it can help as well with these cards

 Yea, I see your point. I've faced 3 or 4 today and I've won all my games against them but I had Lightbomb's and decent kazakus potions to defend myself against them. Gotta admit it's a nice feeling when they drop 3 giants in a turn, and they just disappear once I play lightbomb :D

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I am playing wild Priest, and have yet to face a giant deck  (lucky me). How does Priest perform against the giant decks? Lightbomb and Priest DK must be tough on them. 

 I am playing a combo OTK priest, I have faced this deck, in it's varied versions, 8 times this season alone. I am right now 4-4, 50%. It all comes down to whether you mange to Lightbomb in time, or discover it through Shadow Visions. Later, it is up to DK Hero effect and the right 10 mana Kazakus [/card]potion. If you have [card]Dirty Rat it can help as well with these cards

 Yea, I see your point. I've faced 3 or 4 today and I've won all my games against them but I had Lightbomb's and decent kazakus potions to defend myself against them. Gotta admit it's a nice feeling when they drop 3 giants in a turn, and they just disappear once I play lightbomb :D

 On the other hand a good player wouldn't have played into lightbomb so hard.... I think the deck is better than given credit for, but it is vulnerable to very aggressive decks (though I did win against a murloc paladin) Either way it is a good deck to get out of the high (over 10) ranks in wild as many will just concede and the skill level and decks aren't teched against it. I'm not sure it really has the 70% shown in data mining in higher ranks though. even if it does, the data shows Murloc pally as higher. 

 

 

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I am sure they will nerf it as soon as they realize how linear and restrictive wild is now. So, my bet goes in for mid 2019

Blizzard will have to fix the naga sea witch bug.  It completely ruins the Wild meta, as it is the single most dominating deck on the ladder.  Why they let it last more than 24 hours I have no idea.

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I've yet to lose to a giant deck, but i think they probably bricked hard. I don't think those decks are that good, they're quite luck reliant.

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Blizzard will have to fix the naga sea witch bug.  It completely ruins the Wild meta, as it is the single most dominating deck on the ladder.  Why they let it last more than 24 hours I have no idea.

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Blizzard will have to fix the naga sea witch bug.  It completely ruins the Wild meta, as it is the single most dominating deck on the ladder.  Why they let it last more than 24 hours I have no idea.

 It is not a bug, the change they implemented is actually how the mechanic interaction was supposed to work when the card was released. The deck also is not the most dominating deck in wild.

I also think you are over exaggerating the impact of the deck on the wild meta. Naga giants broke the meta, but hyper aggressive pirate warriors didn't? What about super greedy Reno priests that can effectively run N'Zoth, handfuls of card copying cards, Reno, Amara, 6 mana board clears, Entomb, Elise & Lyra who puke out value from nothing? Naga is an extremely powerful deck in a good amount of situations, but it is by far not the only disgusting deck that makes up large pieces of the wild meta.

They keep dying on turn 5.6 to my Pirate Rogue but it's retarded af, unhealthy for the game.

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Naga-Giants is not op. You got rushed down by aggro decks most of the time (for example by Aggro Druid or PW) and your power turn 5 can be strong countered by a lot of things: Lightbomb, Potion + Shadow Word Horror (yes 3 giants got killed in on of my games by SWH), Eqaulity + Pyro, Brawl, Frost Nova + Doomsayer, Sunkeeper, 8-attack-minion + Shadowflame. Every class can play the Naga-Giants-Combo or have counters to it. So the combo is totally fine. It's hyped at the moment, but soon people will see, it's overrated.

If someone meets a lot of this decks, just play a fast aggro deck and kill you enemy by turn 5-6, then thier Naga-Combo is useless.

 The fact that it's causing such a polarized meta game to warp around it in Wild is the bigger issue here.  It forces every deck to either kill by turn 5 or tech heavily against Naga-Giant to survive.  This is NOT healthy in the short term and possibly even the long term because it severely stifles deck variety.

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It's not "ruined" as you put it , it's just not as fun for everyone as it was. The entire point of Wild was for decks like that to exist outside of standard. You're missing the entire point of what is simply one persons opinion and if yours is different that's fine. You think I'm looking for blizzards favor or some extra magical luck in a game ? Not really no , I'm just simply stating my opinion same as you. So please get mad about it. It's what's wrong with the community right now. 

A specific deck archetype runs rampant. First thing everyone does is yell nerf or make a bunch of threads about it. You're right, as a consumer you have a right to complain if you aren't experiencing  satisfaction . 

BUT , if you recall this outrage has been happening since the beginning of hearthstone. There will ALWAYS be decks that people don't like playing against , that people want nerfed. If they did that every time there wouldn't be any point in releasing those cards to begin with. The game will never be 100% balanced. If you think that then you're fooling yourself. 

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It's not "ruined" as you put it , it's just not as fun for everyone as it was. The entire point of Wild was for decks like that to exist outside of standard. You're missing the entire point of what is simply one persons opinion and if yours is different that's fine. You think I'm looking for blizzards favor or some extra magical luck in a game ? Not really no , I'm just simply stating my opinion same as you. So please get mad about it. It's what's wrong with the community right now. 

A specific deck archetype runs rampant. First thing everyone does is yell nerf or make a bunch of threads about it. You're right, as a consumer you have a right to complain if you aren't experiencing  satisfaction . 

BUT , if you recall this outrage has been happening since the beginning of hearthstone. There will ALWAYS be decks that people don't like playing against , that people want nerfed. If they did that every time there wouldn't be any point in releasing those cards to begin with. The game will never be 100% balanced. If you think that then you're fooling yourself. 

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It is not a problem. Brode said that data shows the rise in the deck but that it isn't a problem. Don't reflect your personal opinion/experience on the entire ladder.

My point about it being unfun to play against is that that is why Blizz nerfed Quest Rogue, and why I expect them to nerf this at some point.

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Blizzard will have to fix the naga sea witch bug.  It completely ruins the Wild meta, as it is the single most dominating deck on the ladder.  Why they let it last more than 24 hours I have no idea.

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Blizzard will have to fix the naga sea witch bug.  It completely ruins the Wild meta, as it is the single most dominating deck on the ladder.  Why they let it last more than 24 hours I have no idea.

 On what rank do you play? (no offense!)

As other people mentioned: The deck is not played very often on "higher ranks" (about rank 7+). I played like 25 games yesterday in wild and only can remember 2-3 giants decks I faced on rank 10. I can't confirm the "most dominating deck".

Maybe you should play one hour of PW to get to rank 10, then you solved the "giant problem" for yourself. :D

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I played against a Naga Lock today. Lightbomb gg.

Naga without giants?  How do they not have one of their 8-10 giants by turn 5?  And all those other cards aren't going to do anything.  If their cost is more than 6, you won't get a turn to play them.  Lyra on turn 5 looks pretty stupid when you just take 30 damage next turn.

Loses against aggro/face/hardboardclearersTurn6/freezemage... best deck ever, not. Just another non interactiv combo deck like quest rogue

If you have to actively counter a specific deck to not auto-lose 20%-30% of your games, it takes the fun out of playing. I mean, I understand that you have to either follow or counter the meta if you want to reach legend, but I'm playing at rank 14 and it's full of people looking for easy wins with giants. I'm going back to Standard until either Naga is changed or all the giants have climbed enough in rank that I don't have to fight them again and again.

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If you have to actively counter a specific deck to not auto-lose 20%-30% of your games, it takes the fun out of playing. I mean, I understand that you have to either follow or counter the meta if you want to reach legend, but I'm playing at rank 14 and it's full of people looking for easy wins with giants.

There's a difference between adding 2-3 counter cards like Golakka Crawler or Eater of Secrets or whatever, and invalidating 90% of the meta decks because of one broken interaction.  "Playing pirates" isn't a tech choice.