I think Malygos has at least as big an impact on the game now as Ragnaros ever had, and the decks he enables are all the same. Stall stall stall, you're dead. Its really fun and interactive.
Edit: Started writing the thread as a statement : He should be moved, but decided to change it to a question. Thread title suffered for it.
we get it you don't like combo decks. Why are people always so fixated on Malygos. HIs combos usually need a lot of set up and they never deal infintie damage, which means if you have access to armor you can outlast him.
Honestly, I thought that all of the Legacy Dragons will be moved to HoF after this rotation because of the starter pack and we will get a "Year of the Dragon" for next year's rotation.
Well it may be an absurd idea but all i can think after that starter pack is that.
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If we look into things from the perspective of design space, yes. Malygos makes it hard to make cheap damage spells for different classes. And spells/minions which cheat out big minions (Eureka, Kobold Illusionist, several priest cards)
On the other hand, he only sees play in 3 classes (druid, rogue and priest), and maybe some shaman too. So, no need to do that.
I think it depends on how you define HoF. For me, he is good enough of a candidate.
no,why would it be hofed? its only played in druid and some time in tier 4 rogue mali deck,its not in every deck,cards that are overplayed and take spot for new and other cards go to hof
Stall stall stall, you're dead. Its really fun and interactive.
And agro is puke minions and your dead by turn 5-6...
There are different ways to play, some aim for controlling and diverge damage until they have all they need for a series of cards to go off, others want to do as much damage as fast as possible.
I rather see tech cards that lets you delay or interrupt instead of HoF'ing cards I do not like.
I also think it's not necessary. It's hard to pull off combo's with Malygos, so many decks can beat you if they can feel what kind of deck you are playing. losing a game which brings you from 30-0 in 1 turn is not fun to play against but neither are aggro decks that beat you in 4 turns. They all just belong to the gameplay of Hearthstone.
I'm a combo player (In Wild, so this wouldn't affect me) and love Maly. However, blizz refuse to print tools to deal with combo effectively. Other than warlocks, of course. if blizz started pulling their finger out of their arse and providing combo hate? Then there's no need. Otherwise? Maly exists purely as a combo piece, limiting cards that cheat out cards/copies of cards.
I can agree to this. If there was more combo interruption tools, he would not be such a problem.
There are a lot of cards like Malygos that have such a high cost for their effect they are either game winning or match ending. Mecha C'Thun being a recent example. I've always held a dear place in my heart for Malygos but you've made me think about it quite seriously. I don't think it will happen yet but at some point he will 'restrict design space' as others have done in the past.
The problem with Malygos compared to Mecha'thun is that Malygos is always part of the standard package, and thus Malygos OTK decks will always be a thing whereas Mecha'thun will rotate out.
I think that the issue about HoF Malygos is if they were to leave him in play, would he really be played all that much? With all the support druid is losing I have my tendency to vote no. Even now he is seeing nowhere near as much play as Leeroy Jenkins, which might be a better HoF target himself.
Malygos deserves to be HoFed just as much as any other card in the game.
More in detail, Malygos OTK decks differ depending on the class.
While Ragnaros just filled the top curve for nearly any Tempo or Midrange deck, which is arguably the most common deck type in the game, unlike OTK.
This is not true, in my opinion. Do you really want to face Malygos OTK decks in the standard format from now until Hearthstone at some point dies ? The decks he enables are all "the same deck", just in different classes. Maly rogue, Maly druid, Maly priest. They all do EXACTLY the same thing, just with different tools. If i were given a choice between cards to HOF : Leeroy, Sylvanas, Ragnaros and Malygos - id choose Malygos every time. At least the other cards are fun to play against.
Malygos himself isn't the problem, the problem is all of the stall cards. Even if he doesn't get hall of famed, he will become severely worse when things like Spreading PlaguePsychic Scream finally leave.
I think Malygos has at least as big an impact on the game now as Ragnaros ever had, and the decks he enables are all the same. Stall stall stall, you're dead. Its really fun and interactive.
Edit: Started writing the thread as a statement : He should be moved, but decided to change it to a question. Thread title suffered for it.
we get it you don't like combo decks. Why are people always so fixated on Malygos. HIs combos usually need a lot of set up and they never deal infintie damage, which means if you have access to armor you can outlast him.
I tried having fun once. It was awful.
Why you think that?
Honestly, I thought that all of the Legacy Dragons will be moved to HoF after this rotation because of the starter pack and we will get a "Year of the Dragon" for next year's rotation.
Well it may be an absurd idea but all i can think after that starter pack is that.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
You are wrong. Ragnaros and Sylvana were very strong in many Archtypes and Autoclude , Malygos on the Opposite isn't played in a lot of decks.
I don't think so. At 9 mana, Malygos requires a lot of setup for the deadly spell combos.
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I could live with maly if Alex didn't exist. Man I hate it when I navigate the matchup carefully only to get killed in two turns anyway.
Yes. Mostly because he's only used for this kind of combos. There's no other type of deck that utilizes Malygos.
If we look into things from the perspective of design space, yes. Malygos makes it hard to make cheap damage spells for different classes. And spells/minions which cheat out big minions (Eureka, Kobold Illusionist, several priest cards)
On the other hand, he only sees play in 3 classes (druid, rogue and priest), and maybe some shaman too. So, no need to do that.
I think it depends on how you define HoF. For me, he is good enough of a candidate.
no,why would it be hofed? its only played in druid and some time in tier 4 rogue mali deck,its not in every deck,cards that are overplayed and take spot for new and other cards go to hof
Nope,Ragnaros the Firelord could be included in all decks, Malygos can not. You need a deck build around it.
And agro is puke minions and your dead by turn 5-6...
There are different ways to play, some aim for controlling and diverge damage until they have all they need for a series of cards to go off, others want to do as much damage as fast as possible.
I rather see tech cards that lets you delay or interrupt instead of HoF'ing cards I do not like.
I also think it's not necessary. It's hard to pull off combo's with Malygos, so many decks can beat you if they can feel what kind of deck you are playing. losing a game which brings you from 30-0 in 1 turn is not fun to play against but neither are aggro decks that beat you in 4 turns. They all just belong to the gameplay of Hearthstone.
I can agree to this. If there was more combo interruption tools, he would not be such a problem.
There are a lot of cards like Malygos that have such a high cost for their effect they are either game winning or match ending. Mecha C'Thun being a recent example. I've always held a dear place in my heart for Malygos but you've made me think about it quite seriously. I don't think it will happen yet but at some point he will 'restrict design space' as others have done in the past.
The problem with Malygos compared to Mecha'thun is that Malygos is always part of the standard package, and thus Malygos OTK decks will always be a thing whereas Mecha'thun will rotate out.
I think that the issue about HoF Malygos is if they were to leave him in play, would he really be played all that much? With all the support druid is losing I have my tendency to vote no. Even now he is seeing nowhere near as much play as Leeroy Jenkins, which might be a better HoF target himself.
Malygos deserves to be HoFed just as much as any other card in the game.
More in detail, Malygos OTK decks differ depending on the class.
While Ragnaros just filled the top curve for nearly any Tempo or Midrange deck, which is arguably the most common deck type in the game, unlike OTK.
This is not true, in my opinion. Do you really want to face Malygos OTK decks in the standard format from now until Hearthstone at some point dies ? The decks he enables are all "the same deck", just in different classes. Maly rogue, Maly druid, Maly priest. They all do EXACTLY the same thing, just with different tools. If i were given a choice between cards to HOF : Leeroy, Sylvanas, Ragnaros and Malygos - id choose Malygos every time. At least the other cards are fun to play against.
Malygos himself isn't the problem, the problem is all of the stall cards. Even if he doesn't get hall of famed, he will become severely worse when things like Spreading Plague Psychic Scream finally leave.