So I am an older player (as in my age) that's been playing a long time. I don't have every single card but I usually invest a lot of time and money into the game. I track the meta using various resources as well as using programs like HDT. So...for the life of me...I can't figure out why I've never been able to climb the ladder consistently!
Before my hiatus (just after KotFT) I would generally make it between ranks 5 and 10 by the end of the month. Since coming back, however, I've not been able to get lower than 12. I just don't get it!
So I was hoping someone would be willing to befriend me and potentially help me find the "err of my ways". I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks in advance!
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
I have always found that zoo was very easy to beat with odd warrior, what are your mulligan strategy cards and what is your deck list for each of those decks? I think that you would have most luck ranking with token druid or odd warrior.
I have always found that zoo was very easy to beat with odd warrior, what are your mulligan strategy cards and what is your deck list for each of those decks? I think that you would have most luck ranking with token druid or odd warrior.
I usually try to keep Reckless Flurry, Stonehill Defender...stuff like that. I've run several variations depending on what I'm up against. If I am seeing a lot of aggro I throw in Whirlwinds and take out Elise (I never seem to be able to fully utilize the pack anyway). I am running two Mind Control Techs and Darius Crowley as well.
I haven't had much luck with token at rank 14 so I went back to Odd Warrior. But TBH nothing seems to be working for me right now...
I see some lists running fiery war axes. Those should definitely help a lot vs zoo. According to hsreplay. Odd warrior archetype has a 60% winrate when vs zoo.
I play since the closed beta and my best rank is 3... I realized its more about “play a lot” than skill. And playing control decks require a lot of time, so you need to play some aggro decks to climb faster and it gets boring...
So I just try to get rank 5 every season for the golden epic
I see some lists running fiery war axes. Those should definitely help a lot vs zoo. According to hsreplay. Odd warrior archetype has a 60% winrate when vs zoo.
It's funny, right after I read your last post I took Waraxe out, because I realized I was winning more consistently with my original decklist. Going to see how this goes I guess. Hit me up in game if you want zaknaril#1820
Feel free to add me, horn#2715. Not a high legend player but if you only want the card back, I can spectate some games and give yoh tips. Mainly play BigSpellMage at the moment, but also Control Warrior and token Druid.
Let me know on which server you play first (I am mostly on EU)
Feel free to add me, horn#2715. Not a high legend player but if you only want the card back, I can spectate some games and give yoh tips. Mainly play BigSpellMage at the moment, but also Control Warrior and token Druid.
Let me know on which server you play first (I am mostly on EU)
Yeah I play US. I added you though. Might as well. Mage is my preferred class but I haven't had much luck with Mage for a while...
Something must be wrong if you consider Zoo to be your counter as an Odd Warrior, that shouldn't be the case. This means you are likely not playing optimally. I can spectate a few games and see if I identify any problem. I'm EU main server, but I have all servers open, meaning I can also see NA.
If you'd like, add DiamondDM13#2815
I guess I didn't mean for it to be taken that I thought Zoo was my counter. I just meant I've lost to Zoo a few times and other decks that ARE my counter (like mechthun priest and locks, etc.)
Number of games shouldn't be a factor if you're struggling to reach rank 5. Even back when the seasonal rank resets were 10+ ranks rather than the 4 ranks we have today, it was extremely easy for experienced players to reach rank 5 and beyond by doing daily quests on ladder alone. I assume everyone who bothers is at a bare minimum playing enough to do their daily quests
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
Maly druid, token druid and odd warrior are extremely difficult and time consuming decks to play (and consequently time consuming to learn). According to HSReplay, Odd warrior is the best deck in the meta to counter zoo, so you're probably doing something wrong there. You describe yourself as older in age, so I would not recommend these for laddering since I assume you have a busier life than most of us
Odd pally and zoo should be your best bet, depending on what the other people at your rank are playing besides zoo. For instance, zoo does much better against druid than paladin; paladin does slightly better than zoo against all aggro; both are pretty bad against heavy duty control
Another consideration is crafting tempo mage. Flamewaker is your favorite card, you say? The deck is still alive in 2018 and is tier 2, though you can only play 1 flamewaker in your deck and it draws cards instead of pings now. Being comfortable and experienced with your deck is important and tempo mage has not changed much over the years. You might find this deck both enjoyable and easy learn since you have prior experience
I'd love to spectate you sometimes but I am EU, not NA :(
Number of games shouldn't be a factor if you're struggling to reach rank 5. Even back when the seasonal rank resets were 10+ ranks rather than the 4 ranks we have today, it was extremely easy for experienced players to reach rank 5 and beyond by doing daily quests on ladder alone. I assume everyone who bothers is at a bare minimum playing enough to do their dailies quests
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
Maly druid, token druid and odd warrior are extremely difficult and time consuming decks to play (and consequently time consuming to learn). According to HSReplay, Odd warrior is the best deck in the meta to counter zoo, so you're probably doing something wrong there. You describe yourself as older in age, so I would not recommend these for laddering since I assume you have a busier life than most of us
Odd pally and zoo should be your best bet, depending on what the other people at your rank are playing besides zoo. For instance, zoo does much better against druid than paladin; paladin does slightly better than zoo against all aggro; both are pretty bad against heavy duty control
Another consideration is crafting tempo mage. Flamewaker is your favorite card, you say? The deck is still alive in 2018 and is tier 2, though you can only play 1 flamewaker in your deck and it draws cards instead of pings now. Being comfortable and experienced with your deck is important and tempo mage has not changed much over the years. You might find this deck both enjoyable and easy learn since you have prior experience
I'd love to spectate your sometimes but I am EU, not NA :(
Thanks for the insights. I play Standard though :(
you can add me and I'll watch some of your games and give you some advice. I make legend every month and I have quite a bit of experience with Big Spell Mage, Odd Warrior, Even Warlock, Rush Warrior, and Malygos Druid. maroon5five#1484
Number of games shouldn't be a factor if you're struggling to reach rank 5. Even back when the seasonal rank resets were 10+ ranks rather than the 4 ranks we have today, it was extremely easy for experienced players to reach rank 5 and beyond by doing daily quests on ladder alone. I assume everyone who bothers is at a bare minimum playing enough to do their dailies quests
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
Maly druid, token druid and odd warrior are extremely difficult and time consuming decks to play (and consequently time consuming to learn). According to HSReplay, Odd warrior is the best deck in the meta to counter zoo, so you're probably doing something wrong there. You describe yourself as older in age, so I would not recommend these for laddering since I assume you have a busier life than most of us
Odd pally and zoo should be your best bet, depending on what the other people at your rank are playing besides zoo. For instance, zoo does much better against druid than paladin; paladin does slightly better than zoo against all aggro; both are pretty bad against heavy duty control
Another consideration is crafting tempo mage. Flamewaker is your favorite card, you say? The deck is still alive in 2018 and is tier 2, though you can only play 1 flamewaker in your deck and it draws cards instead of pings now. Being comfortable and experienced with your deck is important and tempo mage has not changed much over the years. You might find this deck both enjoyable and easy learn since you have prior experience
I'd love to spectate your sometimes but I am EU, not NA :(
Thanks for the insights. I play Standard though :(
I think he’s using the new mage legendary as a reference to flamewaker!
Number of games shouldn't be a factor if you're struggling to reach rank 5. Even back when the seasonal rank resets were 10+ ranks rather than the 4 ranks we have today, it was extremely easy for experienced players to reach rank 5 and beyond by doing daily quests on ladder alone. I assume everyone who bothers is at a bare minimum playing enough to do their dailies quests
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
Maly druid, token druid and odd warrior are extremely difficult and time consuming decks to play (and consequently time consuming to learn). According to HSReplay, Odd warrior is the best deck in the meta to counter zoo, so you're probably doing something wrong there. You describe yourself as older in age, so I would not recommend these for laddering since I assume you have a busier life than most of us
Odd pally and zoo should be your best bet, depending on what the other people at your rank are playing besides zoo. For instance, zoo does much better against druid than paladin; paladin does slightly better than zoo against all aggro; both are pretty bad against heavy duty control
Another consideration is crafting tempo mage. Flamewaker is your favorite card, you say? The deck is still alive in 2018 and is tier 2, though you can only play 1 flamewaker in your deck and it draws cards instead of pings now. Being comfortable and experienced with your deck is important and tempo mage has not changed much over the years. You might find this deck both enjoyable and easy learn since you have prior experience
I'd love to spectate your sometimes but I am EU, not NA :(
Thanks for the insights. I play Standard though :(
I think he’s using the new mage legendary as a reference to flamewaker!
I think he’s using the new mage legendary as a reference to flamewaker!
Yup, it was a joke about Stargazer Luna. It's another 3 mana 2/4 that does stuff when you play your cards and will solo the opponent if it sticks. The hard part is knowing when to drop her, but you should have a good feel for that already
So I am an older player (as in my age) that's been playing a long time. I don't have every single card but I usually invest a lot of time and money into the game. I track the meta using various resources as well as using programs like HDT. So...for the life of me...I can't figure out why I've never been able to climb the ladder consistently!
Before my hiatus (just after KotFT) I would generally make it between ranks 5 and 10 by the end of the month. Since coming back, however, I've not been able to get lower than 12. I just don't get it!
So I was hoping someone would be willing to befriend me and potentially help me find the "err of my ways". I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks in advance!
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
What decks do you play?
How many games per season? Most time this question is answered with "play a lot more"
what type of decks are you playing in the current meta?
Last season I was playing Maly Druid for the most part...ended up around rank 12. This season I started with Maly but there were too many counters in the higher teen ranks so I started playing Odd Warrior and managed to climb back to 13 but now I'm running into a lot of Zoo and other counters so I have been kinda stuck.
Right now I have Odd Pally, Odd Warrior, Zoo, Token Druid, and Maly Druid constructed.
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
I have always found that zoo was very easy to beat with odd warrior, what are your mulligan strategy cards and what is your deck list for each of those decks? I think that you would have most luck ranking with token druid or odd warrior.
Yeah I probably play enough...not sure how many per month...mostly I just can't move up in ranks.
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
I usually try to keep Reckless Flurry, Stonehill Defender...stuff like that. I've run several variations depending on what I'm up against. If I am seeing a lot of aggro I throw in Whirlwinds and take out Elise (I never seem to be able to fully utilize the pack anyway). I am running two Mind Control Techs and Darius Crowley as well.
I haven't had much luck with token at rank 14 so I went back to Odd Warrior. But TBH nothing seems to be working for me right now...
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
I see some lists running fiery war axes. Those should definitely help a lot vs zoo. According to hsreplay. Odd warrior archetype has a 60% winrate when vs zoo.
I play since the closed beta and my best rank is 3... I realized its more about “play a lot” than skill. And playing control decks require a lot of time, so you need to play some aggro decks to climb faster and it gets boring...
So I just try to get rank 5 every season for the golden epic
It's funny, right after I read your last post I took Waraxe out, because I realized I was winning more consistently with my original decklist. Going to see how this goes I guess. Hit me up in game if you want zaknaril#1820
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
Feel free to add me, horn#2715. Not a high legend player but if you only want the card back, I can spectate some games and give yoh tips. Mainly play BigSpellMage at the moment, but also Control Warrior and token Druid.
Let me know on which server you play first (I am mostly on EU)
Yeah I play US. I added you though. Might as well. Mage is my preferred class but I haven't had much luck with Mage for a while...
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
I guess I didn't mean for it to be taken that I thought Zoo was my counter. I just meant I've lost to Zoo a few times and other decks that ARE my counter (like mechthun priest and locks, etc.)
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
Number of games shouldn't be a factor if you're struggling to reach rank 5. Even back when the seasonal rank resets were 10+ ranks rather than the 4 ranks we have today, it was extremely easy for experienced players to reach rank 5 and beyond by doing daily quests on ladder alone. I assume everyone who bothers is at a bare minimum playing enough to do their daily quests
Maly druid, token druid and odd warrior are extremely difficult and time consuming decks to play (and consequently time consuming to learn). According to HSReplay, Odd warrior is the best deck in the meta to counter zoo, so you're probably doing something wrong there. You describe yourself as older in age, so I would not recommend these for laddering since I assume you have a busier life than most of us
Odd pally and zoo should be your best bet, depending on what the other people at your rank are playing besides zoo. For instance, zoo does much better against druid than paladin; paladin does slightly better than zoo against all aggro; both are pretty bad against heavy duty control
Another consideration is crafting tempo mage. Flamewaker is your favorite card, you say? The deck is still alive in 2018 and is tier 2,
though you can only play 1 flamewaker in your deck and it draws cards instead of pings now. Being comfortable and experienced with your deck is important and tempo mage has not changed much over the years. You might find this deck both enjoyable and easy learn since you have prior experienceI'd love to spectate you sometimes but I am EU, not NA :(
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
Thanks for the insights. I play Standard though :(
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
you can add me and I'll watch some of your games and give you some advice. I make legend every month and I have quite a bit of experience with Big Spell Mage, Odd Warrior, Even Warlock, Rush Warrior, and Malygos Druid. maroon5five#1484
I think he’s using the new mage legendary as a reference to flamewaker!
Oh...Stargazer Luna?
Flamewaker is my all-time favorite card!
Yup, it was a joke about Stargazer Luna. It's another 3 mana 2/4 that does stuff when you play your cards and will solo the opponent if it sticks. The hard part is knowing when to drop her, but you should have a good feel for that already
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest