Not complaining, I only lost twice, But its getting kind of boring to beat on literally 15 hunters in a row. Is there a reason it seems everyone is playing hunter or is it just RNG?
If hunter makes up 10% of ladder the probability of facing 15 consecutive hunters assuming random matchmaking is 1 in 1000 billion. In other words effectively zero.
Either you are mistaken and did not face that many hunters or Blizzard is lying about matchmaking being random or perhaps at the time you played basically everyone in the world decided to play hunter so the true proportion of hunters out there was far more than 10%.
I believe Blizzard are lying about how matchmaking happens to protect their ability to manipulate ladder outcomes in a way that
a) disguises what a SHIT job they do of balancing the game, and
b) encourages/manipulates people to buy packs of the latest expansion.
According to MY night of playing Hearthstone 70% of people on standard ladder play mind blast control priest and everybody else plays even Paladin. Nobody at all plays Cubelock or Spiteful Druid or Quest Rogue. Which is frankly ridiculous: before I made my Priest deck I was knee deep in Cubelock, quest rogue and spiteful Druid and saw very few priests.
I've also seen a lot of spell hunters lately, not even close to 15 and definitely not even close to 100% but still there've been a ridiculous amount lately, but I mean if you only lost twice then cool, easy climb, just keep farming them you always have to take advantage of those pockets metas and ladder as much as possible.
That must be the true meaning of "face hunter" kappa
Jokes apart, it's rng, but also possibly some experimentation in the light of the incoming nerfs, ie vicious syndicate reported that Hunter might be able to carve his own place in the high tiers after the nerfs.
DisguisedToast was playing a "Spell Hunter" deck in his FreeToPlay account so perhaps some people wanted to try it seeing how fast he was climbing.
Maybe people without expensive cards are trying to climb now that most people with t1 decks are in higher ranks by now. Who knows, just keep farming them and climbing.
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DisguisedToast was playing a "Spell Hunter" deck in his FreeToPlay account so perhaps some people wanted to try it seeing how fast he was climbing.
Maybe people without expensive cards are trying to climb now that most people with t1 decks are in higher ranks by now. Who knows, just keep farming them and climbing.
This.
Firstly, when popular streamers (and DisguisedToast is one of the few Hearthstone streamers capable of mustering more than 20,000 viewers when streaming) try out new affordable successful decks (as DiguisedToast did with Spell Hunter), people tend to flood the ladder with them.
Secondly, lower brackets traditionally contain way more Hunter decks than other brackets, as Hunter usually allows to build decks which are not only budgety but also relatively easy to pilot.
On top of that you possibly had some back to back games (sort of unintentional sniping) and fell prey to a statistic outlier (someone has to encounter those once in a while, after all).
Well this time around I see a lot more variety than last expansion where I had a record streak of 23 priest opponents. I rather face 15 hunters than 15 priests, at least the games will take a lot less time...
If hunter makes up 10% of ladder the probability of facing 15 consecutive hunters assuming random matchmaking is 1 in 1000 billion. In other words effectively zero.
Either you are mistaken and did not face that many hunters or Blizzard is lying about matchmaking being random or perhaps at the time you played basically everyone in the world decided to play hunter so the true proportion of hunters out there was far more than 10%.
I believe Blizzard are lying about how matchmaking happens to protect their ability to manipulate ladder outcomes in a way that
a) disguises what a SHIT job they do of balancing the game, and
b) encourages/manipulates people to buy packs of the latest expansion.
According to MY night of playing Hearthstone 70% of people on standard ladder play mind blast control priest and everybody else plays even Paladin. Nobody at all plays Cubelock or Spiteful Druid or Quest Rogue. Which is frankly ridiculous: before I made my Priest deck I was knee deep in Cubelock, quest rogue and spiteful Druid and saw very few priests.
matchmaking is obviously rigged.
I think the obvious response to a post such as this is fairly obvious.
But let me ask this instead: judging by your username, you appear to have a personal dislike of Ben Brode. Why is that? And since Ben has now left Team 5, is it really necessary any more? Or did Ben do something to you specifically?
Famous streamers are pretty influential, and can cause big upswings in temporal popularity of decks.
Also, anybody can claim anything pretty easily. It would help a lot if you posted a a match history or video, it is a big difference you "felt" you played vs 15 hunters in a row and actually doing it.
Not complaining, I only lost twice, But its getting kind of boring to beat on literally 15 hunters in a row. Is there a reason it seems everyone is playing hunter or is it just RNG?
Which class were you playing? I noticed that whenever I'm on rogue, I run into dozens of hunters either on ladder or in casual.
If hunter makes up 10% of ladder the probability of facing 15 consecutive hunters assuming random matchmaking is 1 in 1000 billion. In other words effectively zero.
Either you are mistaken and did not face that many hunters or Blizzard is lying about matchmaking being random or perhaps at the time you played basically everyone in the world decided to play hunter so the true proportion of hunters out there was far more than 10%.
I believe Blizzard are lying about how matchmaking happens to protect their ability to manipulate ladder outcomes in a way that
a) disguises what a SHIT job they do of balancing the game, and
b) encourages/manipulates people to buy packs of the latest expansion.
According to MY night of playing Hearthstone 70% of people on standard ladder play mind blast control priest and everybody else plays even Paladin. Nobody at all plays Cubelock or Spiteful Druid or Quest Rogue. Which is frankly ridiculous: before I made my Priest deck I was knee deep in Cubelock, quest rogue and spiteful Druid and saw very few priests.
matchmaking is obviously rigged.
I think the obvious response to a post such as this is fairly obvious.
But let me ask this instead: judging by your username, you appear to have a personal dislike of Ben Brode. Why is that? And since Ben has now left Team 5, is it really necessary any more? Or did Ben do something to you specifically?
Regarding woeful Brode:
3 things I absolutely HATE about Hearthstone. And I mean really hate with a passion.
1) No autosquelch - a feature that would be easy to code into an update, would harm nobody and would benefit those of us tilted by emotes.
2) Excessive random effects swinging games: e.g Yogg is an extreme example--boy do I despise and detest that card.
3) Unbalanced card synergies left way too long before nerfing -- too many examples to list RUINING multiple seasons and leading to a culture of rampant netdecking and rock paper scissor matchups and grinding of a small number of borderline broken decks . Huntertaker vomit. Secret Paladin vomit.. pirate warrior, quest rogue, corridor creeper, Cubelock, etc etc etc
In his time at Blizzard , Brode either instigated the above failings or was the corporate mouthpiece defending the indefensible. I think I have maybe 13000ish ladder wins, so I do enjoy Hearthstone when it's not in a shit state. But It's often been in a shit state, and I hate Brode for the direction he took the game.
My question is, what type of hunter decks did you fae? As far as I know there are four versions: Odd Hunter, Spell Hunter, Quest Hunter and maybe Big Beast Hunter. Toast played Quest Hunter, Savjz played Big Beast Hunter and it's not like those decks were completely trash. Odd Hunter is a solid choice right after a patch since is punishes experimental decks and spell hunter is probably a decent middle class deck overall.
I also think the data shows decks played in ALL of ladder. It says when you reach legend you are among the top 1 or 2 percentile of players or something. So I guess different ranks may favor different decks. 5-leg ranks probably has a certain popular deck and maybe there are 10 times more players at rank 20 than people at rank 5 and at rank 20 they may play a different deck there. Obviously what time of ladder also plays a big part. At the start of ladder, you can encounter good players and at the end of month people also tryhard for a last push. In mid season, you run more into casualstoners.
In my experience at ranks 5-leg people favor easy and fast decks like even paladin a lot. Even when cubelock and controllock was at the top of tier lists, people play paladin. Probably because it is way more straightforward.
Not complaining, I only lost twice, But its getting kind of boring to beat on literally 15 hunters in a row. Is there a reason it seems everyone is playing hunter or is it just RNG?
It's RNG. I haven't seen a hunter in standard in weeks so I don't think ladder is exactly crawling with them
If hunter makes up 10% of ladder the probability of facing 15 consecutive hunters assuming random matchmaking is 1 in 1000 billion. In other words effectively zero.
Either you are mistaken and did not face that many hunters or Blizzard is lying about matchmaking being random or perhaps at the time you played basically everyone in the world decided to play hunter so the true proportion of hunters out there was far more than 10%.
I believe Blizzard are lying about how matchmaking happens to protect their ability to manipulate ladder outcomes in a way that
a) disguises what a SHIT job they do of balancing the game, and
b) encourages/manipulates people to buy packs of the latest expansion.
According to MY night of playing Hearthstone 70% of people on standard ladder play mind blast control priest and everybody else plays even Paladin. Nobody at all plays Cubelock or Spiteful Druid or Quest Rogue. Which is frankly ridiculous: before I made my Priest deck I was knee deep in Cubelock, quest rogue and spiteful Druid and saw very few priests.
matchmaking is obviously rigged.
I've also seen a lot of spell hunters lately, not even close to 15 and definitely not even close to 100% but still there've been a ridiculous amount lately, but I mean if you only lost twice then cool, easy climb, just keep farming them you always have to take advantage of those pockets metas and ladder as much as possible.
That must be the true meaning of "face hunter" kappa
Jokes apart, it's rng, but also possibly some experimentation in the light of the incoming nerfs, ie vicious syndicate reported that Hunter might be able to carve his own place in the high tiers after the nerfs.
Free wins. Its kinda sad how bad hunters are. Only time i loose are when i draw beyond bad.
DisguisedToast was playing a "Spell Hunter" deck in his FreeToPlay account so perhaps some people wanted to try it seeing how fast he was climbing.
Maybe people without expensive cards are trying to climb now that most people with t1 decks are in higher ranks by now. Who knows, just keep farming them and climbing.
"Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all."
Well this time around I see a lot more variety than last expansion where I had a record streak of 23 priest opponents. I rather face 15 hunters than 15 priests, at least the games will take a lot less time...
screenshots, or it didnt happen. 15 games without a paladin... poppycocks I say.
Famous streamers are pretty influential, and can cause big upswings in temporal popularity of decks.
Also, anybody can claim anything pretty easily. It would help a lot if you posted a a match history or video, it is a big difference you "felt" you played vs 15 hunters in a row and actually doing it.
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I WISH I got more huntards! I'm in the Control Warlock hell at rank 6! :(
My question is, what type of hunter decks did you fae? As far as I know there are four versions: Odd Hunter, Spell Hunter, Quest Hunter and maybe Big Beast Hunter. Toast played Quest Hunter, Savjz played Big Beast Hunter and it's not like those decks were completely trash. Odd Hunter is a solid choice right after a patch since is punishes experimental decks and spell hunter is probably a decent middle class deck overall.
I also think the data shows decks played in ALL of ladder. It says when you reach legend you are among the top 1 or 2 percentile of players or something. So I guess different ranks may favor different decks. 5-leg ranks probably has a certain popular deck and maybe there are 10 times more players at rank 20 than people at rank 5 and at rank 20 they may play a different deck there. Obviously what time of ladder also plays a big part. At the start of ladder, you can encounter good players and at the end of month people also tryhard for a last push. In mid season, you run more into casualstoners.
In my experience at ranks 5-leg people favor easy and fast decks like even paladin a lot. Even when cubelock and controllock was at the top of tier lists, people play paladin. Probably because it is way more straightforward.
you plays shaman with shudderwork and keleseth ( infinite removals ) => you win 80% of hunters
Hunter isn't that bad.
P.S. btw haHAA