Bomb Warrior shouldn't be that hard to be honest; Oozes, Elysianna, Fountains and Kragwa + Witches Brew seems enough to me or have I just been lucky? With Hagatha up you can keep your hand full and overdraw them.
Funny you say that because I'm currently laddering with a "Miracle" build of Control Shaman that uses those cards :p
you will struggle to get above 40% vs warriors no matter what, and in the process you weaken your deck in areas it should have been incredibly strong. So the decks you had 70% winrates with before drop to 50+%, all for a few measly points vs warrior. this is actually counter intuitive deck building in my opinion.
I'm not sure about that. Before the patch, Warrior was about 20/25% of my games. 40% was still bad (even though for me it was more 50/50 in the end), but it's better than 0%. Without Elysianna, you probably have 0% winrate against Warrior. It was one card, to have 40-50% winrate instead of 0% in a lot of your games.
Nowdays I don't know, I've kinda given up on Control Shaman for now. It became too hard to try to be decent against everything, when it was a lot easier pre-patch. Now, have a deck that can beat Midrange Hunter ? And Bomb Warrior at the same time ? Not counting the token decks you face here and there and that require cards that are awfully bad against both hunter and war.
I just started building the deck differently. warriors will still give you a hard time, but I win the majority of other match up's.
I'm actually thinking about dusting my Elysiana for the full value as I don't use her. she really shines in control warrior, and you only ever need it in control mirrors for shaman. I much prefer playing with a combo finisher.
I have some ideas I can share if you want.
What combo finisher do you mean? Mecha'Thun?
mega windfury. you either stick down ravenholdt assassin which has stealth and then windfury and tempest next turn, or do something similar with another card. essentially though you're using windfury in some way as a finisher. it's often not needed due to the deck containing mechs though as it's very easy to win off magnetize alone at the moment.
I recently added omega defender just to buff the shudderwocks damage (also has coppertail to stealth it) so you can get a huge mega windfury on it the next turn.
Only thing is I need to test whether you have to wait til have 10 crystals for the omega battlecry to activate with shudderwock, or if you just need ten crystals when you play shudderwock (I have a feeling it's the latter)
The deck looks very different to the standard control shaman deck though.
If Pogo Rogue becomes too popular can Control Shaman deal with it?
Zentimo + Earth Shock maybe?
And Hex, Hagatha's Schemes and BGH, but it still won't be enough to stop their endless waves of Minions. A bane to Control decks, It's like Jade Druid all over again. Luckily Rogues don't have the Heal/ Armor gain that Druid had so Aggro will keep them in check.
you will struggle to get above 40% vs warriors no matter what, and in the process you weaken your deck in areas it should have been incredibly strong. So the decks you had 70% winrates with before drop to 50+%, all for a few measly points vs warrior. this is actually counter intuitive deck building in my opinion.
I'm not sure about that. Before the patch, Warrior was about 20/25% of my games. 40% was still bad (even though for me it was more 50/50 in the end), but it's better than 0%. Without Elysianna, you probably have 0% winrate against Warrior. It was one card, to have 40-50% winrate instead of 0% in a lot of your games.
Nowdays I don't know, I've kinda given up on Control Shaman for now. It became too hard to try to be decent against everything, when it was a lot easier pre-patch. Now, have a deck that can beat Midrange Hunter ? And Bomb Warrior at the same time ? Not counting the token decks you face here and there and that require cards that are awfully bad against both hunter and war.
I just started building the deck differently. warriors will still give you a hard time, but I win the majority of other match up's.
I'm actually thinking about dusting my Elysiana for the full value as I don't use her. she really shines in control warrior, and you only ever need it in control mirrors for shaman. I much prefer playing with a combo finisher.
I have some ideas I can share if you want.
What combo finisher do you mean? Mecha'Thun?
mega windfury. you either stick down ravenholdt assassin which has stealth and then windfury and tempest next turn, or do something similar with another card. essentially though you're using windfury in some way as a finisher. it's often not needed due to the deck containing mechs though as it's very easy to win off magnetize alone at the moment.
I recently added omega defender just to buff the shudderwocks damage (also has coppertail to stealth it) so you can get a huge mega windfury on it the next turn.
Only thing is I need to test whether you have to wait til have 10 crystals for the omega battlecry to activate with shudderwock, or if you just need ten crystals when you play shudderwock (I have a feeling it's the latter)
The deck looks very different to the standard control shaman deck though.
I understand, however, your idea requires disproportionate replacements. A bucket of mega windfury instead alone Elysiana
So a bit of an update (I finished my exams). I climbed to rank 5 at the start of the month with Big Spell Mage, but right now I'm back to Control Shaman, seems it's my favorite deck =)
Made some small changes, like removing BGH because it was often a dead card, and Hex with the many removal spells is good enough for big minions imo. I also added Zentimo because it's a very good card, especially now that I run Earthen Might. I also added Unseen Saboteur because there are a lot of OTK Paladins at rank 2 for the last couple of days. In theory it should also beat Mecha'thun but those decks are sparse.
Went from rank 4 to 2 today with almost a full winstreak (only 2 losses). Trying to get Legend this month!
Funny you say that because I'm currently laddering with a "Miracle" build of Control Shaman that uses those cards :p
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mega windfury. you either stick down ravenholdt assassin which has stealth and then windfury and tempest next turn, or do something similar with another card. essentially though you're using windfury in some way as a finisher. it's often not needed due to the deck containing mechs though as it's very easy to win off magnetize alone at the moment.
I recently added omega defender just to buff the shudderwocks damage (also has coppertail to stealth it) so you can get a huge mega windfury on it the next turn.
Only thing is I need to test whether you have to wait til have 10 crystals for the omega battlecry to activate with shudderwock, or if you just need ten crystals when you play shudderwock (I have a feeling it's the latter)
The deck looks very different to the standard control shaman deck though.
If Pogo Rogue becomes too popular can Control Shaman deal with it?
Zentimo + Earth Shock maybe?
And Hex, Hagatha's Schemes and BGH, but it still won't be enough to stop their endless waves of Minions. A bane to Control decks, It's like Jade Druid all over again. Luckily Rogues don't have the Heal/ Armor gain that Druid had so Aggro will keep them in check.
https://outof.cards
just killed like 20 pogo abominations till loosing in elysiana´s endgame ... to another "onehit" pogo.
I understand, however, your idea requires disproportionate replacements. A bucket of mega windfury instead alone Elysiana
So a bit of an update (I finished my exams). I climbed to rank 5 at the start of the month with Big Spell Mage, but right now I'm back to Control Shaman, seems it's my favorite deck =)
Made some small changes, like removing BGH because it was often a dead card, and Hex with the many removal spells is good enough for big minions imo. I also added Zentimo because it's a very good card, especially now that I run Earthen Might. I also added Unseen Saboteur because there are a lot of OTK Paladins at rank 2 for the last couple of days. In theory it should also beat Mecha'thun but those decks are sparse.
Went from rank 4 to 2 today with almost a full winstreak (only 2 losses). Trying to get Legend this month!
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