Just got Lilian Voss from a pack recently and was wondering if theres a fun burgle deck out there that includes her. I really wanna make her work in a deck
I have the card on my f2p account, and couldnt find a good deck. When I did play it, it messed me over by replacing my chosen spells with mostly useless spells that didnt go with my deck. Im thinking it might be a good dust candidate when I am sure I wont buy/open more TFT packs.
I was so disappointed when she recently dropped as my 3rd legendary after opening 85 packs. I tend not to dust legendaries so she'll remain unused for many moons to come I imagine..
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Having played burgle rogue with Voss a lot, my opinion of her is that she's better than most people give her credit for.
Sometimes she looks like she has made something worse but she's actually got a 'plan' all along (a good example was when she turned something into Mind Blast. I wasn't overjoyed but when I later burgled Velen and lowered their cost, that gave me 20 burst damge after playing Valeera).
I will say she really shines against any slow deck if you are going second (and hence can turn the coin into an actual card), especially if you draw fan of knives or backstab which you are all too happy to change. If you have Ethereal Peddler in hand for the following turn it is also usually correct to play Voss and replace eviscerate, since even there most spells are better when they cost 2 less. In fact if you get multiple non-rogue cards in hand by turn 5 then reduce their cost you often beat Jade Druid (otherwise it is very tough).
I can upload my current burgle deck later if you like.
Edit: fun fact: if you replace a card with reduced cost, it keeps the reduction. So don't be afraid to replace those either.
The design of the card is poor, there are so many cards out there that seem really good or fun but are let down by their stats. However this one has a strong effect and great stats but it should have given you a spell which can trigger the effect on demand. It would also have extra synergy with Valeera too. It's like most of the time they just want you to use classic cards. She would have been OP if she gave you a golden monkey type card straight in your hand which would let you trigger it. I get that some cards are meant to be bad and some have to be bad to have good cards but they could easily make some of these cards playable by small alterations to stop people using the same classic legendaries we have seen since Vanilla.
Fun fact 2: Death knight cards count as being from a non-rogue class. So the Ethereal Peddler reduced their cost etc.
I have a kind of similar deck, but I run 1x Auctioneer and lots of Razorpetals. Didn't know about the synergy with Death Knight cards, so thanks for the tip!
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On the third day before Witchwood, Blizzard gave to me,
Here's my current burgle deck. I make no claims of it being refined, and plenty of things can be switched out.
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Fun fact 2: Death knight cards count as being from a non-rogue class. So the Ethereal Peddler reduced their cost etc.
I have a kind of similar deck, but I run 1x Auctioneer and lots of Razorpetals. Didn't know about the synergy with Death Knight cards, so thanks for the tip!
I always avoid Auctioneer to prove to everyone I play against that it isn't actually necessary in rogue decks, but razorpetal lashers would be a decent addition, especially with Voss in mind. They would probably be in there already if I had remembered them putting Thalnos in recently.
This card is basically Blizzard saying: "We couldn't think of anything new for Rogue for this expansion so heres another card that gives you random crap from your opponents class".
Just got Lilian Voss from a pack recently and was wondering if theres a fun burgle deck out there that includes her. I really wanna make her work in a deck
I could not find a fun deck as I lack the other legend (forgot name) that adds cards after attack. I tried a Deathrattle deck with Spareparts and Xaril and the 2 Tomb Pillagers (to add cheap spells in hand). It did not really work, but it was fun!!
She she was my first legendary from this expansion. I tried quite a few variety builds around her and came to one sad conclusion... she's terrible.
Essentially she's an inferior version of Renounce Darkness that takes some setup to get value from. I love rogue and burgle style decks but I currently wouldn't include her in anything except for meme bait.
I've yet to see a burgled spell that's unusable in Rogue. Even if it's totem or armor related, it's still cheap and great combo activator. Even if there IS something i can't use, i have to get rid of the spells i don't want to change, which usually means underperforming. So the setup is basically impossible unless you're running petals which are much better to use for something else. On the other hand, there are HORRIBLE minions that i burgle and there's no way of changing them.
Worst spent 1600 dust ever. I hope it's goin to be something like Purify and that it will find its way in a niche deck someday.
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I don't tell people to dust cards very often, but Lilian Voss is just terrible....
But if I had to make a possible use, MAYBE she could work with Burgly Bully to change coins.... Otherwise, I just don't see the use at all besides getting some lucky burgled spell changes.
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Deathrattles for a N'Zoth-inspired second-wind, should the need arise.
The spells already in the deck exist for tearing down threats/walls in your way, while Shadowstep is there to reactivate Battlecries that'll keep you in the game (like Antique Healbot, or N'Zoth). You wouldn't want to Lilian those; she's there to replace the Spare Parts you create with something better.
Behold, foolish interlopers! I am commanding this mortal to spread the will of the Scourge throughout the interwebs, encouraging you to seek out me, Archlich Kel'Thuzad! Now coming to you as the tenth class of Hearthstone!
I am a finalist in this Class Creation Competition, so if you could give it a look I would be greatly appreciative <3
Deathrattles for a N'Zoth-inspired second-wind, should the need arise.
The spells already in the deck exist for tearing down threats/walls in your way, while Shadowstep is there to reactivate Battlecries that'll keep you in the game (like Antique Healbot, or N'Zoth). You wouldn't want to Lilian those; she's there to replace the Spare Parts you create with something better.
Just got Lilian Voss from a pack recently and was wondering if theres a fun burgle deck out there that includes her. I really wanna make her work in a deck
I have the card on my f2p account, and couldnt find a good deck. When I did play it, it messed me over by replacing my chosen spells with mostly useless spells that didnt go with my deck. Im thinking it might be a good dust candidate when I am sure I wont buy/open more TFT packs.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
I was so disappointed when she recently dropped as my 3rd legendary after opening 85 packs. I tend not to dust legendaries so she'll remain unused for many moons to come I imagine..
Please don't tell my girlfriend about my card collection...
Having played burgle rogue with Voss a lot, my opinion of her is that she's better than most people give her credit for.
Sometimes she looks like she has made something worse but she's actually got a 'plan' all along (a good example was when she turned something into Mind Blast. I wasn't overjoyed but when I later burgled Velen and lowered their cost, that gave me 20 burst damge after playing Valeera).
I will say she really shines against any slow deck if you are going second (and hence can turn the coin into an actual card), especially if you draw fan of knives or backstab which you are all too happy to change. If you have Ethereal Peddler in hand for the following turn it is also usually correct to play Voss and replace eviscerate, since even there most spells are better when they cost 2 less. In fact if you get multiple non-rogue cards in hand by turn 5 then reduce their cost you often beat Jade Druid (otherwise it is very tough).
I can upload my current burgle deck later if you like.
Edit: fun fact: if you replace a card with reduced cost, it keeps the reduction. So don't be afraid to replace those either.
Here's my current burgle deck. I make no claims of it being refined, and plenty of things can be switched out.
Fun fact 2: Death knight cards count as being from a non-rogue class. So the Ethereal Peddler reduced their cost etc.
The design of the card is poor, there are so many cards out there that seem really good or fun but are let down by their stats. However this one has a strong effect and great stats but it should have given you a spell which can trigger the effect on demand. It would also have extra synergy with Valeera too. It's like most of the time they just want you to use classic cards. She would have been OP if she gave you a golden monkey type card straight in your hand which would let you trigger it. I get that some cards are meant to be bad and some have to be bad to have good cards but they could easily make some of these cards playable by small alterations to stop people using the same classic legendaries we have seen since Vanilla.
On the third day before Witchwood, Blizzard gave to me,
three Handlock decks,
two Molten Giants
and a winstreak to Legend Rank #3
Disclaimer: This is a fictional poem and this didn't actually happen to me.
This card is basically Blizzard saying:
"We couldn't think of anything new for Rogue for this expansion so heres another card that gives you random crap from your opponents class".
I much prefer Shaku, I hope Voss will get better in the future because Shaku will be rotating out while we have 2 years of Lilian Voss.
She she was my first legendary from this expansion. I tried quite a few variety builds around her and came to one sad conclusion... she's terrible.
Essentially she's an inferior version of Renounce Darkness that takes some setup to get value from. I love rogue and burgle style decks but I currently wouldn't include her in anything except for meme bait.
I've yet to see a burgled spell that's unusable in Rogue. Even if it's totem or armor related, it's still cheap and great combo activator. Even if there IS something i can't use, i have to get rid of the spells i don't want to change, which usually means underperforming. So the setup is basically impossible unless you're running petals which are much better to use for something else. On the other hand, there are HORRIBLE minions that i burgle and there's no way of changing them.
Worst spent 1600 dust ever. I hope it's goin to be something like Purify and that it will find its way in a niche deck someday.
Perhaps you could try her in a Wild Mech deck? Generate Spare Part cards, then flip 'em into new/better spells.
Behold, foolish interlopers! I am commanding this mortal to spread the will of the Scourge throughout the interwebs, encouraging you to seek out me, Archlich Kel'Thuzad! Now coming to you as the tenth class of Hearthstone!
I am a finalist in this Class Creation Competition, so if you could give it a look I would be greatly appreciative <3
I don't tell people to dust cards very often, but Lilian Voss is just terrible....
But if I had to make a possible use, MAYBE she could work with Burgly Bully to change coins.... Otherwise, I just don't see the use at all besides getting some lucky burgled spell changes.
Behold, foolish interlopers! I am commanding this mortal to spread the will of the Scourge throughout the interwebs, encouraging you to seek out me, Archlich Kel'Thuzad! Now coming to you as the tenth class of Hearthstone!
I am a finalist in this Class Creation Competition, so if you could give it a look I would be greatly appreciative <3
The spells already in the deck exist for tearing down threats/walls in your way, while Shadowstep is there to reactivate Battlecries that'll keep you in the game (like Antique Healbot, or N'Zoth). You wouldn't want to Lilian those; she's there to replace the Spare Parts you create with something better.
Behold, foolish interlopers! I am commanding this mortal to spread the will of the Scourge throughout the interwebs, encouraging you to seek out me, Archlich Kel'Thuzad! Now coming to you as the tenth class of Hearthstone!
I am a finalist in this Class Creation Competition, so if you could give it a look I would be greatly appreciative <3
That's a 10 mana combo, better drop some other elusive minion + bonemare.