Would be alright if you build the deck right. Something like that seems to be crying out for Raza and Shadow Forms tho.
Shadowform has anti synergy with Justicar. Could do silly things with embrace the shadows the 3/4 that refreshes your hero power when you play a spell and Lyra though. Hit them for a ridiculous amount of damage
Shadowform is much better than Justicar generally. The main use of Justicar is for repeatedly healing injured minions, but that's not really a thing anymore since removal and board clears have become so powerful. For healing your face it's better to just use a Greater Healing Potion (plus you have Reno already). Though if the meta is too aggressive for Shadowform it's obviously a good card.
Lyra definitely fits in my opinion, but you have to run a spell heavy list. It's probably not a good choice for a deathrattle priest.
Shadowform is much better than Justicar generally. The main use of Justicar is for repeatedly healing injured minions, but that's not really a thing anymore since removal and board clears have become so powerful. For healing your face it's better to just use a Greater Healing Potion (plus you have Reno already). Though if the meta is too aggressive for Shadowform it's obviously a good card.
Lyra definitely fits in my opinion, but you have to run a spell heavy list. It's probably not a good choice for a deathrattle priest.
Greater Healing Potion is a terrible card. It can occasionally save your ass but more often it just clogs up your hand since the card has no use if you are ahead. Justicar Trueheart is way better option since it provides a decent 6/3 body and the synergy with Raza the Chained is real. If you get to play raza on turn5 and justicar on turn6, that's 8 healing for 0 mana while building a board and the small bonus of having a "heal 4 for 0 mana" button for the rest of the game.
Shadowform is indeed a good card and has it's place in these kind of lists tho i tried the card personally and found out the meta to be too fast, just like you assumed. It's just a dead card against aggro and especially pirate warrior that is the most common deck in wild so running it is not even an option imho.
Lyra acts as a comeback card and as a removal bait. You cant build a reno list around it (run a spell heavy list). If you run out of steam in the later stages of the game, lyra can give you few more tools to play with or just win the game by itself. Against aggro it is totally fine to play it as 5 drop that the opponent has to respect, leaving it up is suicidal for the opponent so it kinda acts as a taunt. Quest reno lists obviously can't play this card, you just don't have enough room for it.
Look up the list i linked above, it's designed to combat the current wild meta. I had positive winrate against all the metadecks except dude paladin so i think i made a pretty good job building it.
Thank you for the suggestions, I most likely will build a few variants of Reno Priest and see what I like best.
I personally like running the quest/N'zoth Reno priest. In that I do use Justicar (as mentioned, the value combined with Raza is insane), but not Lyra (not enough spells). I do pretty well with it...but matches can average over 10 minutes.
Shadowform is much better than Justicar generally. The main use of Justicar is for repeatedly healing injured minions, but that's not really a thing anymore since removal and board clears have become so powerful. For healing your face it's better to just use a Greater Healing Potion (plus you have Reno already). Though if the meta is too aggressive for Shadowform it's obviously a good card.
Lyra definitely fits in my opinion, but you have to run a spell heavy list. It's probably not a good choice for a deathrattle priest.
Greater Healing Potion is a terrible card. It can occasionally save your ass but more often it just clogs up your hand since the card has no use if you are ahead. Justicar Trueheart is way better option since it provides a decent 6/3 body and the synergy with Raza the Chained is real. If you get to play raza on turn5 and justicar on turn6, that's 8 healing for 0 mana while building a board and the small bonus of having a "heal 4 for 0 mana" button for the rest of the game.
I like Greater Healing Potion for the saving of ass aspect. You can't always rely on having Reno on turn 6 against Pirate Warrior.
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Look up the list i linked above, it's designed to combat the current wild meta. I had positive winrate against all the metadecks except dude paladin so i think i made a pretty good job building it.
Positive winrate against Quest Rogue as Priest? Tell me your secrets!
I play reno priest and i think Justicar is ok, but Lyra is abit slow and inconsistent.
So then what kind of things do you play then? I'm still building mine and learning to play it so any suggestions and help is greatly appreciated.
I make my own decks dude. i try reno N'zoth normally. I play normally thing like belcher, Dr boom, mistress of mixtures and a few more deathrattles. Justicar is ok in the deck as it offers large healing in i need it rather than playing reno. Lyra just fill my hand up and makes me burn cards i need.
This is the list i finished @ #87 legend on EU last season. Raza the Chained combined with Justicar Trueheart is actually pretty fucking good. 0 mana heal for 4 is "decent".
Lyra the Sunshard is a bait card in this deck, you never want to be greedy with it tho i won some games just because of lyra. You can drop it as 5 drop if the opponent has no board, to force an answer. If it sticks, the value you get is nearly always enough to win the game. People hate to see this card getting into action so they will use whatever removal they have, which makes your bigger threats more scary.
I run Holy Smite not just because of lyra but also because Priest of the Feast and it can help you remove some early game threats.
You basically win all control matchups with this deck. Aggro matchups are also pretty good if you just draw some early game. Midrange decks like dude paladin are the hard counter especially if they get divine shield on the plebs :D. There is loads of tech against pirate warrior since that was the deck i struggled with most with the early versions of this deck that had no Golakka Crawler nor Gluttonous Ooze. If you face warrior/druid/mage/warlock etc any deck that could be both aggro or control, always mulligan for aggro since the control matchups are favoured anyways. Always keep reno.
There is 4 different aoes + Kazakus in the deck so aoe should not be a problem especially because you always find some aoe with shadow visions if you really need it.
Have a go with the list, i played like 300 games with different kinds of reno priest decks but this is the one i found most consistent. Feel free to point out some improvement suggestions or ask any questions. The deck is super fun to play tho it takes some time to get used to. I suggest playing this list with some kind of deck tracker because the usage of shadow visions is what makes the deck so strong and the ability to know 100% sure what spells are left in your deck is super important.
Oh btw, if someone is wondering why i dont run Brann Bronzebeard tho i have lots of battlecries, it is because i dont believe in 2 card combos in reno decks, no matter how strong they are. Playing brann makes the deck more inconsistent because your inner greed starts to come up when playing cards like this. You will win the value nearly always anyway so you don't need bran mkay?
There is no reason not to run Brann Bronzebeard, even if you play him on curve he is a must kill that either demands removal or pseudo Taunts, also in Control vs Control mirrors Priest doesn't have the advantage vs either Quest Warrior or Renolock due to the Quest and Lord Jaraxus and you're only compounding your problems by not having a consistent answer to N'zoth via Sheep. I think Medivh is also a really dubious win condition in a format where every body is playing one, maybe two Oozes for Pirate Warrior already.
I think I'm undefeated in Legend vs Priest with Renolock, except for those stupid Priest versions that run the Quest to go deep into fatigue at the cost of throwing their Pirate Warrior match up.
So, I've been playing Reno Priest in wild for some time now. Out of curiosity, would you guys consider the Quest version or the non quest version to be better and why? Thank you!
Ive gotten to R5 without really trying with Reno quest priest since Un'Goro. I dont think running Justicar is necessary. If you get beat at that point, it's through combos, bad luck or just getting out controlled where the Justicar upgrade isn't really going to make any difference.
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Out of curiosity, what are everyone's thoughts on running Lyra and Justicar in Wild Reno Priest? Are they too slow or do they fit well?
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Would be alright if you build the deck right. Something like that seems to be crying out for Raza and Shadow Forms tho.
I play reno priest and i think Justicar is ok, but Lyra is abit slow and inconsistent.
I've found that there are a lot of bad players on Wild until R5 so if you just build a competent deck with a decent condition you should be alright.
Both are mediocre, Reno is already your Justicar on steroids and Lyra doesn't have enough cost efficient spells to trigger off of.
Shadowform is much better than Justicar generally. The main use of Justicar is for repeatedly healing injured minions, but that's not really a thing anymore since removal and board clears have become so powerful. For healing your face it's better to just use a Greater Healing Potion (plus you have Reno already). Though if the meta is too aggressive for Shadowform it's obviously a good card.
Lyra definitely fits in my opinion, but you have to run a spell heavy list. It's probably not a good choice for a deathrattle priest.
I personally like running the quest/N'zoth Reno priest. In that I do use Justicar (as mentioned, the value combined with Raza is insane), but not Lyra (not enough spells). I do pretty well with it...but matches can average over 10 minutes.
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Rank 34 legend right now, mainly playing with this deck. Justicar defo deserves a spot, and the Inspire package is in theory infinite value.
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So, I've been playing Reno Priest in wild for some time now. Out of curiosity, would you guys consider the Quest version or the non quest version to be better and why? Thank you!
Quest Version for sure.
Ive gotten to R5 without really trying with Reno quest priest since Un'Goro. I dont think running Justicar is necessary. If you get beat at that point, it's through combos, bad luck or just getting out controlled where the Justicar upgrade isn't really going to make any difference.