How good is it vs demon zoo? Get Equality or die trying?
I have consistently beaten zoo, not sure about demon zoo but in general, clear up their deathrattle minions and then sweep the board, either using Equality or a combination of Wild Pyromancer + spells. The healing you have generally is enough to stay alive even against highly aggressive decks. Initially i ran Hammer of Wrath instead of Truesilver Champion but Truesilver is too valuable vs Imp Gang Boss, Armorsmiths and Flamewakers to ignore. It seems to help a lot vs Zoo as well, allowing you to take out Nerubians and all that jazz.
Edit: The only decks i really struggle against is spell heavy decks like tempo mage, and combo druid.
Edit 2: I could actually see replacing one Lay on Hands for a Seal of Light, for more accessible Wild Pyromancer synergy. The deck has a lot of draw already, so i dont see it being too much of an issue. Possibly also use a Deathlord instead of Unstable Ghoul. Would have to be tested i suppose, but i can see it being solid.
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
To answer the OP question: Yes youcan reach legend, I did so last season. I also support the idea of heaving fun now and not after you hit legend. Regarding the "best" Anyfin iteration: I think Nevilz' approach is correct.
A few things I recommend: 1. Consider playing Sir finley. This guy is really good against aggro and midrange decks. The first anyfin is not affected by it and even improves your board. Your second Anyfin is in worst case still 17 damage and usually 30+ damage. I never had this ruin my lethal. 2. Doomsayer + Solemn vigil is very good. If you don't play the one, I would not recommend the other either. 3. Expect to lose some games to aggro if you don't get equality.
Cool. I've considered Sir Finley. That 1/3 1 drop is important. What hero powers do you target afterwards? I would imagine in some matchups Priest/Warrior would be good when you desperately need to keep upping your health. Thoughts on going with Muster vs going with Sir Finley? I saw Kolento playing the control (doomsayers) based Anyfin today. He wasn't running swamp ooze and was only running 1 Acolyte. He had 2 muster for battles in there instead.
Absolutely, Doomsayer + Solemn Vigil is solid. Some classes handle Doomsayer better than others, but overall its' a great card in this deck.
Regarding equality, yes. I'll often keep 1 equality in my mulligan vs some classes just because it's critical. When they are in the back of your deck you'll have a hard time staying afloat.
Going for legend with Anyfin again this season. Last season when I started focusing on Anyfin there were just a few days left. I went as high as rank 2 and ended the season at rank 3. I was tweaking my Anyfin deck a lot and trying various builds, and really still learning it. This season I'm more fin-tuned (get it?) and Mrrrrlgining (get it??) the control version much better. Sitting at rank 9 eight days into the season so I should be able to make it if I have enough free time to play later this month.
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
Enter the Coliseum has been MVP on more than one occation :) and its more reliable than doomsayer, which is my main reason for using it
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
Enter the Coliseum has been MVP on more than one occation :) and its more reliable than doomsayer, which is my main reason for using it
Why don't people play Coldlight Oracle in anyfin decks? I find droppingDoomsayer then Coldlight Oracle is pretty great. It also adds another body on the table turn 10.
Why don't people play Coldlight Oracle in anyfin decks? I find droppingDoomsayer then Coldlight Oracle is pretty great. It also adds another body on the table turn 10.
Just my opinion, because the downside is giving your opponent a free Arcane Intellect I guess? And in turn 10, being able to draw extra cards is crucial.
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Why don't people play Coldlight Oracle in anyfin decks? I find droppingDoomsayer then Coldlight Oracle is pretty great. It also adds another body on the table turn 10.
Just my opinion, because the downside is giving your opponent a free Arcane Intellect I guess? And in turn 10, being able to draw extra cards is crucial.
This. It's a huge downside. It works okay in mill rogue because it also slowly kills the opponent (by milling their cards). But in any old deck it doesn't have that extra punch.
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
Enter the Coliseum has been MVP on more than one occation :) and its more reliable than doomsayer, which is my main reason for using it
What rank are you currently playing?
Rank 10 atm, havent been ranking a lot this season so far. Mainly been tinkering with decks.
I'd like to focus some on the Control Anyfin vs Mid Range Druid matchup a bit:
I think the biggest challenge this control version of Anyfin has right now is vs Mid Range Druid. I'd love to improve this deck's win rate vs Mid Range Druid even just slightly. Luckily, for my win rate, the Druid population is currently down a LOT because of the high Zoo Population. Warlock players are playing zoo like it's going out of style. Secret Paladin and Zoo are my most common opponents at the moment (rank 8 in ladder).
Back to Druid: I've noticed that my win conditions vs Mid Range Druid are actually very simple. Get them to waste force/roar on clearing your board threats. When I lose to Mid Range Druid it's always to force + roar. When I bet mid range druid it's 1 of 2 things. 1.) Either their 2x Force or 2x Roar are in the very back of their deck and I draw my OTK before they force + roar me. or 2.) They are forced to use their force/roar on clearing my Doomsayer or clearing my Dr Boom. Number 2 is actually a very interesting concept. I'm running a Dr Boom in my control Anyfin deck. I've noticed that if I clear the board on turn 6, and play Dr Boom on an empty board turn 7 theres' a decent change they use Force of Nature to clear my Boom. I haven't run into many BGH's lately so idk if they aren't running them or if I'm just getting lucky. I've also seen several cases where they'll waste Force of Nature or Savage Roar to clear my Doomsayer as well. When they do that I know I have a huge opportunity to win the game because their Combo has been delayed several turns until they draw the next one.
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
Enter the Coliseum has been MVP on more than one occation :) and its more reliable than doomsayer, which is my main reason for using it
What rank are you currently playing?
Rank 10 atm, havent been ranking a lot this season so far. Mainly been tinkering with decks.
What are your most common plays with Enter the Coliseum? Do you tend to combo it with Peacekeeper, or do you just play it and then take damage from the minion it doesn't. Or do you often find yourself able to somehow combo with with trading effectively to remove the last minion? I suppose you can combo it with Keeper as well for a 10 mana combo.
Just beat two Mid Range Druids in a row on a win streak. Jesus. In both games combined I was within lethal twice and both times they didn't have combo in their hand. I think I got lucky those games and their combo cards were buried in their decks. Anyfin is amazing. Both times in order to win I had to play the first Anyfin with only 3/4 murlocs dead to clear the board, then I followed it up the next turn with the second Anyfin for the OTK. So sick. Often times vs Druid I have to use the first Anyfin out of desperation to clear the board and keep myself out of OTK range from force/roar.
You lack double healbot in your deck, pyros to combo with Equality, 1x Refreshment Vendor is good to have too. Put that, and your matchup vs Aggro will be much better.
I also don't like double Lay on Hands. But why you no double solemn vigil?
Just posting my deck in case you want some ideas, I'm not a legend player, tho it works fine for me.
So in your Control Anyfin deck, do you feel Tirion is more valuable than Dr Boom as a big minion? I may try using Refreshment vender in mine soon. I think Control Anyfin is the ideal fit for Refreshment Vendor because your opponents health literally means nothing. So take a look at our worst matchups. Probably Mid Range Druid and Face decks like Aggro Shaman.... I'll think about what ot remove to add a Refreshment vender and make sure it doesn't hurt me in other matchups.
You can try my Anyfin deck. Its kind of different from most Anyfin decks i see, but it works very well in my experience
How good is it vs demon zoo? Get Equality or die trying?
I don't have Eadric, but it looks interesting. Does Enter the Coliseum work well for you? It's kind of like a weaker and more expensive brawl IMO. BUT that combos really nice with Aldor Peackeeper. So it allows you to have control over who wins the "Brawl". But combos are harder to pull off and that requires turn 9 or later where as Brawl is often a good turn 5/6/7 play just by itself. Regardless, no Brawl for Paladin.
Update:
Going for legend with Anyfin again this season. Last season when I started focusing on Anyfin there were just a few days left. I went as high as rank 2 and ended the season at rank 3. I was tweaking my Anyfin deck a lot and trying various builds, and really still learning it. This season I'm more fin-tuned (get it?) and Mrrrrlgining (get it??) the control version much better. Sitting at rank 9 eight days into the season so I should be able to make it if I have enough free time to play later this month.
Enter the Coliseum? Well that's a name I haven't heard since ages.
Game is a part of love and life, simple yet crucial :)
Why don't people play Coldlight Oracle in anyfin decks? I find droppingDoomsayer then Coldlight Oracle is pretty great. It also adds another body on the table turn 10.
Game is a part of love and life, simple yet crucial :)
I'd like to focus some on the Control Anyfin vs Mid Range Druid matchup a bit:
I think the biggest challenge this control version of Anyfin has right now is vs Mid Range Druid. I'd love to improve this deck's win rate vs Mid Range Druid even just slightly. Luckily, for my win rate, the Druid population is currently down a LOT because of the high Zoo Population. Warlock players are playing zoo like it's going out of style. Secret Paladin and Zoo are my most common opponents at the moment (rank 8 in ladder).
Back to Druid: I've noticed that my win conditions vs Mid Range Druid are actually very simple. Get them to waste force/roar on clearing your board threats. When I lose to Mid Range Druid it's always to force + roar. When I bet mid range druid it's 1 of 2 things. 1.) Either their 2x Force or 2x Roar are in the very back of their deck and I draw my OTK before they force + roar me. or 2.) They are forced to use their force/roar on clearing my Doomsayer or clearing my Dr Boom. Number 2 is actually a very interesting concept. I'm running a Dr Boom in my control Anyfin deck. I've noticed that if I clear the board on turn 6, and play Dr Boom on an empty board turn 7 theres' a decent change they use Force of Nature to clear my Boom. I haven't run into many BGH's lately so idk if they aren't running them or if I'm just getting lucky. I've also seen several cases where they'll waste Force of Nature or Savage Roar to clear my Doomsayer as well. When they do that I know I have a huge opportunity to win the game because their Combo has been delayed several turns until they draw the next one.
Here's my current list:
Just beat two Mid Range Druids in a row on a win streak. Jesus. In both games combined I was within lethal twice and both times they didn't have combo in their hand. I think I got lucky those games and their combo cards were buried in their decks. Anyfin is amazing. Both times in order to win I had to play the first Anyfin with only 3/4 murlocs dead to clear the board, then I followed it up the next turn with the second Anyfin for the OTK. So sick. Often times vs Druid I have to use the first Anyfin out of desperation to clear the board and keep myself out of OTK range from force/roar.
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im 50 gold short to craft dis deck (sweet baby jesus)
It´s the new Secret Paladin. Of course it has nothing to do with Secret Pali, but ya know what i mean.
This deck will rule over the earth for about 2 more seasons till it gets an atomic NERF.
Hope it doesnt..... did anyone beat this deck? what i mean is "Did anyone survived the 2 anyfins?"
Cheers to yall!
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