So since I started playing Hearthstone around LOE slow, grindy Paladin has been my favorite deck. With WoTG I took the route of N'Zoth Paladin and have avoided playing the Anyfin Can Happen version. I have tested the deck so much and I believe that the deck is one card away from being competitive viable. That is CHEAP AOE, that is effective on its own. So yes, Pally does have one of the best clears in the game in Pyro + Equality, but that is a 2 card combo that can really hurt when you don't get the right combo. The only other AOE is Consecration which is crap when compared to most other board clears and Enter The Colesium which is just a way worse brawl.
ALL PALADIN NEEDS IS A 4 MANA DEAL 3 TO ALL MINIONS TO BE VIABLE).
I think this is possible in Un'Goro because of the newest legendary revealed. I just pray for a little bit of strong AOE, that is all I want.
*It was when aggro decks tended to run a lot of 1/2 hp minions or when you actually had that lights justice equipped from muster which allowed you to ping that one extra minion with 3 hp. Now it has very low synergy with palaidns cards.
*It was when aggro decks tended to run a lot of 1/2 hp minions or when you actually had that lights justice equipped from muster which allowed you to ping that one extra minion with 3 hp. Now it has very low synergy with palaidns cards.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
I think single target removal is wat worse in paladin. Only deal 3 damage draw a card, which is so bad against almost everything. They van make a minion 1 attack, but with so man minions that are dangerous because of their effect and not their stats, thats just not enough
You call truesilver a bad removal? :P For me single target removal was never a problem for paladin. The problem begins when you have to take care of larger board.
Compared to a siphon soul or shadow word death, pain, flame lance, fireball, mulch its much worse. Of course its a great value card but it wont help you against a 10/10.
If you don't have a minion on board to contest it when Tarim comes down, Tarim isn't even remotely a clear, you still get fked by the minion's effects.
Same problem with Equality Consec. Its the same problem Priests had back when their only clear was Auchenai Circle, if you don't have both pieces in your hand....
Single target removal's never been a problem? Are you kidding? Paladins ran Crazed Alchemist way back in GvG because they couldnt clear Deathlords and Doomsayers without it. Uldaman was the saving grace for Paladin for the last year, and that even clogged up the 4 mana slot because you had to run Truesilvers and Consecrates.
warriors and paladins dont have removal because they have the best weapons and lots of healing/armor, they would be OP as fu** with hard removals
its a shame there's lots of power creep that makes conscecrate look bad but that goes for every AOE, aoe has been lacking for all classes since standard started thats why aggro/mid shaman and pirate warrior have been dominating for this long
paladin just need better early game minions and a new weapon that is as good as truesilver or better, back in TGT Paladin wasent complaining at all
That was secret paladin. I am talking about Control Paladin. Control Paladin has not been viable expect for a small stint at the start of WoTG because the meta was super greedy and Aggro Shaman had not been refined yet.
warriors and paladins dont have removal because they have the best weapons and lots of healing/armor, they would be OP as fu** with hard removals
its a shame there's lots of power creep that makes conscecrate look bad but that goes for every AOE, aoe has been lacking for all classes since standard started thats why aggro/mid shaman and pirate warrior have been dominating for this long
paladin just need better early game minions and a new weapon that is as good as truesilver or better, back in TGT Paladin wasent complaining at all
warrior has insane hard removal in execute and shield slam. are you fucking high??? Paladin has no early game removal, they can either mulligan for doomsayer or hope to draw a 2 card 4 mana/6mana combo to clear the board. They don't have any good early game without minibot/muster/coghammer so its very hard to fight for it early which leaves paladin in the same place as priest without dragons, forced to play control but less efficient removals for the most part. Honestly, truesilver really isn't all that good, especially in jade meta. My midrange paladin doesn't even run it because its not good enough. What makes arcanite so good is that you can buff it, paladin doesn't have any weapon buffs so its still kinda shit and generally too slow. On turn 4 its good, but by playing it then you can't play anything else so you can't clear the 5 drop that comes down the following turn which means your opponent will have a 5 and 6 drop on the board compared to your 5 which is huge in such a tempo driven meta.
I honestly I honestly think having a high tier removal, like twisting nether tier or mass humility would be incredibly helpful for that deck
they do have that in Eadric the Pure. He's quite a good card, but control paladin is already so top heavy that you're likely dead before you can really take advantage of him
So since I started playing Hearthstone around LOE slow, grindy Paladin has been my favorite deck. With WoTG I took the route of N'Zoth Paladin and have avoided playing the Anyfin Can Happen version. I have tested the deck so much and I believe that the deck is one card away from being competitive viable. That is CHEAP AOE, that is effective on its own. So yes, Pally does have one of the best clears in the game in Pyro + Equality, but that is a 2 card combo that can really hurt when you don't get the right combo. The only other AOE is Consecration which is crap when compared to most other board clears and Enter The Colesium which is just a way worse brawl.
ALL PALADIN NEEDS IS A 4 MANA DEAL 3 TO ALL MINIONS TO BE VIABLE).
I think this is possible in Un'Goro because of the newest legendary revealed. I just pray for a little bit of strong AOE, that is all I want.
Thoughts?
*It was when aggro decks tended to run a lot of 1/2 hp minions or when you actually had that lights justice equipped from muster which allowed you to ping that one extra minion with 3 hp. Now it has very low synergy with palaidns cards.
*It was when aggro decks tended to run a lot of 1/2 hp minions or when you actually had that lights justice equipped from muster which allowed you to ping that one extra minion with 3 hp. Now it has very low synergy with palaidns cards.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
Well Consecration is not that good anymore, considering what other classes got to clear the board. Paladin has been left behind for unknown reason, blizz is focusing only on this boring murloc archetype.
Sorry for the triple post, dunno why it's happened.
I think single target removal is wat worse in paladin. Only deal 3 damage draw a card, which is so bad against almost everything. They van make a minion 1 attack, but with so man minions that are dangerous because of their effect and not their stats, thats just not enough
You call truesilver a bad removal? :P For me single target removal was never a problem for paladin. The problem begins when you have to take care of larger board.
Compared to a siphon soul or shadow word death, pain, flame lance, fireball, mulch its much worse. Of course its a great value card but it wont help you against a 10/10.
to be fair consecration is only "bad" right not because a lot of the current high-priority targets survive it. tunnel trogg, totem golem, finja...
i think mass uldaman is close enough to another clear that paladin won't need a super-consecration.
Vvreeeew.
Would have been nice if it would make all minions 3/2's though
If you don't have a minion on board to contest it when Tarim comes down, Tarim isn't even remotely a clear, you still get fked by the minion's effects.
Same problem with Equality Consec. Its the same problem Priests had back when their only clear was Auchenai Circle, if you don't have both pieces in your hand....
Single target removal's never been a problem? Are you kidding? Paladins ran Crazed Alchemist way back in GvG because they couldnt clear Deathlords and Doomsayers without it. Uldaman was the saving grace for Paladin for the last year, and that even clogged up the 4 mana slot because you had to run Truesilvers and Consecrates.
warriors and paladins dont have removal because they have the best weapons and lots of healing/armor, they would be OP as fu** with hard removals
its a shame there's lots of power creep that makes conscecrate look bad but that goes for every AOE, aoe has been lacking for all classes since standard started thats why aggro/mid shaman and pirate warrior have been dominating for this long
paladin just need better early game minions and a new weapon that is as good as truesilver or better, back in TGT Paladin wasent complaining at all
That was secret paladin. I am talking about Control Paladin. Control Paladin has not been viable expect for a small stint at the start of WoTG because the meta was super greedy and Aggro Shaman had not been refined yet.
The real issue with Control Paladin is that Reno is a better control deck.
Control Priest has the same wish: cheap AoE card instead of AoE Combo cards...
I honestly I honestly think having a high tier removal, like twisting nether tier or mass humility would be incredibly helpful for that deck