What sherman said. The stuff that makes spell hunter viable is certainly not TMS or That weird native american sounding weapon, it is stuff like flanking strike that can be used in other hunter decks as well. I don't think Kibler is responsible for this though, dude is just one of the many sources of this trend.
Finally faced a spell hunter and lost. The whole game litterally just went his way. Every good summon I got he had some bullshit zombeast to counter (bloatbat with poisonous for example.) Got down to the last 5 cards in my deck which were all of my good board clears. For the last 5-6 turns of the game I had 2 turn lethal in my hand but I couldn't play it because he kept getting windfury taunt minions with build a beast. So glad they aren't adding more beasts to that pool, it's a busted hero power for how cheap the hero card is.
People started to play Spell Hunter because it was a meme and they wanted to show it. But while memeing the deck, it turned its not too bad. Might not be T1, but it hard counters a lot of decks in the meta. Of course it has weaknesses, that's the point of the game. Decks like Jade Druid, Raza Priest and Reno Lock shouldn't exist because they are TOO dominant and don't have counters. Their counter is bad draw, which is rare (and they could counter that by various draw options).
I was one of the people who made fun of the Spell Hunter archtype and thought cards like TMS will never see play (EVER), but what is good (and fun) is good (and fun). The deck is here to stay and will only get stronger.
This is not to say that other Hunter decks will not exist. They surely will and might be stronger then Spell Hunter because of cards like WM, Spellstone and FS all being extremely good and making the core of Hunter decks.
One thing is for sure. Hunter will be pretty good in the meta this expansion and will have more then one archtype on the ladder.
Once DKIBuiltACounterToYourCounters rotates out of Standard, people will remember it as THE STRONGEST DK in the game. Yes stronger then DKTurnTable.
Because hunter is good at punishing unrefined decks.
Generally speaking...
Aggro is always good at the start of new formats because it is fairly easy to create the blue print. Sure, it gets refined, but the starting point is pretty easy to get to. Control takes more time because it naturally has to see what type of aggro decks it needs to control. Midrange takes even longer because it has to see what types of aggro and control decks it needs to take on.
exactly this.. i used the legendary weapon twice, gave me 75% trash spells. recruit beast hunter is much more consistent and actuall has an wincondition.
all these new cards and mechanics, pirates/kelseth bullshit still dominating. fail devs = fail
Its a fun deck, but it gets hard-countered by Control Warlock. I'm personally loving it because I spent all of last expansion playing control and Jade Druid, and I love the change of pace.
A lot of people would really like for this deck to do well because it would mean that that Blizz didn't waste a legendary and epic on a specific build that doesn't work. Streamers who are showing this deck are just marketing their product - they know there will be a lot of enthusiasm (at first) as people go through the process of figuring the deck out, even if the deck is lower tier.
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Because Lesser Emerald Spellstone has stupid amounts of value in a 5 mana card, something Hunter has needed for a long time. And they also got Flanking Strike, a strong single-target removal spell that Hunter needed, and even To My Side! carried a good amount of value with the deck's synergy. Not to mention the fact that it absolutely destroys most of the Secret Mage deck lists out there.
Spell hunter slaughters secret/burn mage due to the nature of the decks. Burn mage is popular, therefor spell hunter has a better overall winrate than we'd all expect. It's an interesting anomaly for such a low powerlevel deck to be carried by good matchups
I'm just happy it's good enough to make Reddit eat crow - there's a community that will 'riot' over every perceived slight without caring about such trivialities as "information" or "testing"...
It kind-of counters some of the decks that ARE Tier 1, so i think it will continue to have success in that respect, but it's not high enough to be something anybody techs against.
It's bad against Control/Cube Lock, which is a popular tier 1 deck right now. Spell Hunter's only out is to land DK on curve and start generating value minions (Silence/Charge/Poison is keywords to pick against them).
It has a good shot against any aggro/tempo deck, and isn't hopeless against Big or Raza Priest. Big/Jade Druid are unfavored matches but I'm not seeing them as much as Control/Cube Lock.
So, as long as you understand the basics of the archetype you can do pretty well with it. It may not be the strongest Hunter choice, but definitely isn't a meme deck. I'm currently 6-0 with it at 400ish legend rank, which is far from two digits ranks but isn't outright into dumpster too.
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What sherman said. The stuff that makes spell hunter viable is certainly not TMS or That weird native american sounding weapon, it is stuff like flanking strike that can be used in other hunter decks as well. I don't think Kibler is responsible for this though, dude is just one of the many sources of this trend.
When the weak court death, they find it.
Finally faced a spell hunter and lost. The whole game litterally just went his way. Every good summon I got he had some bullshit zombeast to counter (bloatbat with poisonous for example.) Got down to the last 5 cards in my deck which were all of my good board clears. For the last 5-6 turns of the game I had 2 turn lethal in my hand but I couldn't play it because he kept getting windfury taunt minions with build a beast. So glad they aren't adding more beasts to that pool, it's a busted hero power for how cheap the hero card is.
Amen
People started to play Spell Hunter because it was a meme and they wanted to show it. But while memeing the deck, it turned its not too bad. Might not be T1, but it hard counters a lot of decks in the meta. Of course it has weaknesses, that's the point of the game. Decks like Jade Druid, Raza Priest and Reno Lock shouldn't exist because they are TOO dominant and don't have counters. Their counter is bad draw, which is rare (and they could counter that by various draw options).
I was one of the people who made fun of the Spell Hunter archtype and thought cards like TMS will never see play (EVER), but what is good (and fun) is good (and fun). The deck is here to stay and will only get stronger.
This is not to say that other Hunter decks will not exist. They surely will and might be stronger then Spell Hunter because of cards like WM, Spellstone and FS all being extremely good and making the core of Hunter decks.
One thing is for sure. Hunter will be pretty good in the meta this expansion and will have more then one archtype on the ladder.
Once DKIBuiltACounterToYourCounters rotates out of Standard, people will remember it as THE STRONGEST DK in the game. Yes stronger then DKTurnTable.
Because hunter is good at punishing unrefined decks.
Generally speaking...
Aggro is always good at the start of new formats because it is fairly easy to create the blue print. Sure, it gets refined, but the starting point is pretty easy to get to.
Control takes more time because it naturally has to see what type of aggro decks it needs to control.
Midrange takes even longer because it has to see what types of aggro and control decks it needs to take on.
exactly this.. i used the legendary weapon twice, gave me 75% trash spells. recruit beast hunter is much more consistent and actuall has an wincondition.
all these new cards and mechanics, pirates/kelseth bullshit still dominating. fail devs = fail
Its a fun deck, but it gets hard-countered by Control Warlock. I'm personally loving it because I spent all of last expansion playing control and Jade Druid, and I love the change of pace.
A lot of people would really like for this deck to do well because it would mean that that Blizz didn't waste a legendary and epic on a specific build that doesn't work. Streamers who are showing this deck are just marketing their product - they know there will be a lot of enthusiasm (at first) as people go through the process of figuring the deck out, even if the deck is lower tier.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
Because Lesser Emerald Spellstone has stupid amounts of value in a 5 mana card, something Hunter has needed for a long time. And they also got Flanking Strike, a strong single-target removal spell that Hunter needed, and even To My Side! carried a good amount of value with the deck's synergy. Not to mention the fact that it absolutely destroys most of the Secret Mage deck lists out there.
Its less about its power level, and more about how it’s fun to play
Seems ok.
Spell hunter slaughters secret/burn mage due to the nature of the decks. Burn mage is popular, therefor spell hunter has a better overall winrate than we'd all expect. It's an interesting anomaly for such a low powerlevel deck to be carried by good matchups
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
I'm just happy it's good enough to make Reddit eat crow - there's a community that will 'riot' over every perceived slight without caring about such trivialities as "information" or "testing"...
It kind-of counters some of the decks that ARE Tier 1, so i think it will continue to have success in that respect, but it's not high enough to be something anybody techs against.
It's bad against Control/Cube Lock, which is a popular tier 1 deck right now. Spell Hunter's only out is to land DK on curve and start generating value minions (Silence/Charge/Poison is keywords to pick against them).
It has a good shot against any aggro/tempo deck, and isn't hopeless against Big or Raza Priest. Big/Jade Druid are unfavored matches but I'm not seeing them as much as Control/Cube Lock.
So, as long as you understand the basics of the archetype you can do pretty well with it. It may not be the strongest Hunter choice, but definitely isn't a meme deck. I'm currently 6-0 with it at 400ish legend rank, which is far from two digits ranks but isn't outright into dumpster too.