When you draw as well as control warlock, gain more life than CW, get a hunter-like hero power that is aimable near the end, can stall most aggro lists, fill board better than mid-range lists and have endless value... then yes, your power is here to stay until the nerfbat hits.
If he stays number one,you can farm him.The fact that the drooling masses always go for the easiest choice,doesn't mean that you can't counter them hard.As for the fun factor,jade druid is much more fun to play against than other degenerate decks in the past like undertaker hunter,secret pala,faceshaman,midshaman etc.Make a deck that feasts on them or copy another's deck if you can do it your self and punish them while you wait for the nerf.
If he stays number one,you can farm him.The fact that the drooling masses always go for the easiest choice,doesn't mean that you can't counter them hard.As for the fun factor,jade druid is much more fun to play against than other degenerate decks in the past like undertaker hunter,secret pala,faceshaman,midshaman etc.Make a deck that feasts on them or copy another's deck if you can do it your self and punish them while you wait for the nerf.
Actually this...over the last few days, you see the winrate against Jade go up from certain decklist, but still everybodies cries about JAde AND plays it.
But one way to deal with them is: limit their value by geist, get a bit of carddraw in your deck so you get the geist, have a bit of Boardclear on your side and avoid spreading out, but go big.
If he stays number one,you can farm him.The fact that the drooling masses always go for the easiest choice,doesn't mean that you can't counter them hard.As for the fun factor,jade druid is much more fun to play against than other degenerate decks in the past like undertaker hunter,secret pala,faceshaman,midshaman etc.Make a deck that feasts on them or copy another's deck if you can do it your self and punish them while you wait for the nerf.
Actually this...over the last few days, you see the winrate against Jade go up from certain decklist, but still everybodies cries about JAde AND plays it.
But one way to deal with them is: limit their value by geist, get a bit of carddraw in your deck so you get the geist, have a bit of Boardclear on your side and avoid spreading out, but go big.
Too bad druid winrates are still surpassing 60% on tracking sites for the most popular decks, even if the meta is trying to counter it.
But sure, enjoy the game with two broken druid decks and 3-4 "counters".
Nope. I don't know if Blizzard nerfs something, but classes rotate in the top spot, sooner or later.
Unless it's Pirate Warrior which is always stays relevant (and Tier 1)
You have a point but i wouldn't totally agree. Pirate Warrior became a thing at December 2016 and will probably die along with Patches the Pirate in April 2018 (in Standard mode at least). 16 months is not that much and surely Warrior was not the top class all those months. :)
No it's going to play out exactly like Secret Paladin did (the closest precedent, not Patron or UT). It's going to be too good, too linear, but will have one bad matchup (in this case murlocs pally) which Blizz will use as validation to do nothing. I suggest waiting until next April if you don't like druidstone.
Actually this...over the last few days, you see the winrate against Jade go up from certain decklist, but still everybodies cries about JAde AND plays it.
But one way to deal with them is: limit their value by geist, get a bit of carddraw in your deck so you get the geist, have a bit of Boardclear on your side and avoid spreading out, but go big.
Too bad druid winrates are still surpassing 60% on tracking sites for the most popular decks, even if the meta is trying to counter it.
But sure, enjoy the game with two broken druid decks and 3-4 "counters".
Because it's an easy deck and the only easy deck that counters it is murloc pally and it doesn't counter it that hard.The true hard counters are miracle rogue,exodia mage and hyper control lists with geist.Do you know what all of these have in common?They are hard to play.As a result its winrate will be off the charts because the majority of the people are bad as f*ck and can't play the hard counters correctly.If you don't believe me look at front page decks that aren't made by pros.Every once in while there is a unique or strong deck but most of times they are garbage recycled ideas which are terribly executed.Yet they get upvoted because the majority doesn't see their flaws.
Well I guess Patron never got nerfed because it was too hard for most people too play it... Oh this isn't bizzaro world?
So what has this to do with anything?You propably missunderstood what i wrote.I said that jade druid's hard counters are hard to play and that is the reason why people can't punish it.Not that jade druid is hard,on the contrary,it's a very easy deck.
Nope. I don't know if Blizzard nerfs something, but classes rotate in the top spot, sooner or later.
Unless it's Pirate Warrior which is always stays relevant (and Tier 1)
You have a point but i wouldn't totally agree. Pirate Warrior became a thing at December 2016 and will probably die along with Patches the Pirate in April 2018 (in Standard mode at least). 16 months is not that much and surely Warrior was not the top class all those months. :)
Pirate warrior was actually a thing before Patches, although not as common I guess. I had really good climb with it in October or November I think, but on the other hand much of it might have been the surprise factor - when Patches rotates out now everyone will know the concept of pirate warrior and a worse deck of it's kind might not succeed like it could before Patches.
Druid is the best class right now due to its overall versatility and difficulty to play against. I dont think it houses the most powerful deck(s) though. I think Priest has the most powerful decks.
I don't see Jade or Aggro druid dropping from T1 because of these changes. I'm a little uncertain if control can even come back but I wanna try to at least be optimistic.
It will will still be tier one but it gives more wiggle room in being able to beat it. I think it will allow for some more managble starts so you can outpace them.
Innervate change hardly does anything to knockdown Druid. The issue was mana ramping ability from Wild Growth,Jade Blossom and Mire Keeper coupled with insane card drawing mechanics.
It's actually hilarious to me how people believe a temporary 1 less mana crystal will knockdown Druid, maybe people don't realize just how overpowered Druid is atm...You honestly think this Innervate change is going to dethrone them and break their back? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Druid is by far the nest class right now, but will it stay like that?
Does anyone know if they plan to nerf cards like ultimate infestation or anything?
OR,
Is there any class that counters Druid hard that I don't know about that could really raise in popularity and make Druid become less used/op?
Thanks!
Nope. I don't know if Blizzard nerfs something, but classes rotate in the top spot, sooner or later.
When you draw as well as control warlock, gain more life than CW, get a hunter-like hero power that is aimable near the end, can stall most aggro lists, fill board better than mid-range lists and have endless value... then yes, your power is here to stay until the nerfbat hits.
A class that has no weaknesses? Yes.
If he stays number one,you can farm him.The fact that the drooling masses always go for the easiest choice,doesn't mean that you can't counter them hard.As for the fun factor,jade druid is much more fun to play against than other degenerate decks in the past like undertaker hunter,secret pala,faceshaman,midshaman etc.Make a deck that feasts on them or copy another's deck if you can do it your self and punish them while you wait for the nerf.
No it's going to play out exactly like Secret Paladin did (the closest precedent, not Patron or UT). It's going to be too good, too linear, but will have one bad matchup (in this case murlocs pally) which Blizz will use as validation to do nothing. I suggest waiting until next April if you don't like druidstone.
I have a feeling there isn't a nerf coming anytime soon the way everyone is talking, damn.
Druid is the best class right now due to its overall versatility and difficulty to play against. I dont think it houses the most powerful deck(s) though. I think Priest has the most powerful decks.
I don't see Jade or Aggro druid dropping from T1 because of these changes. I'm a little uncertain if control can even come back but I wanna try to at least be optimistic.
Priest will be #1 now.
It will will still be tier one but it gives more wiggle room in being able to beat it. I think it will allow for some more managble starts so you can outpace them.
Innervate change hardly does anything to knockdown Druid. The issue was mana ramping ability from Wild Growth,Jade Blossom and Mire Keeper coupled with insane card drawing mechanics.
It's actually hilarious to me how people believe a temporary 1 less mana crystal will knockdown Druid, maybe people don't realize just how overpowered Druid is atm...You honestly think this Innervate change is going to dethrone them and break their back? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Priest rejoices.
Jade is still the best Druid, and by a larger margin now.
Murlocs relegated once again to meme-land.
RIP Warriors.